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Zone 220 1st Oct 2007 04:16

Cebu Pacific Pay Adjustment
 
I've heard rumors of salary increase to cebu pac pilots. Is it true?
:confused:

yowdude 1st Oct 2007 11:19

its not a rumor.:p

Zone 220 1st Oct 2007 14:36

wow!!! that's great!!! that's good news for all the pilots in cebu pac. congratulations!!!!:ok:

RAfault 2nd Oct 2007 21:16

wait till the next pilot retention program goes online......:cool:

Zone 220 3rd Oct 2007 01:09

[QUOTE]
wait till the next pilot retention program goes online......:cool:


is that bad news? :eek:

planestupid 3rd Oct 2007 01:52

Increase???/
 
5% increase of nutin is still nutin!!!:{

mandaragit 3rd Oct 2007 05:10

nutin increase
 
what cebupac pilots want are better medical benefits, retirement plan and A380... to stay for good.

arigato 9th Nov 2010 05:34

Tactical Gimmicry
 
Bros',

Don't be fooled by promises, there are still tons of it undelivered up to now. This is just another "tactical gimmicry" by the management to delay you or the most marketable pilots amongst you to move-out. Remember that your precious time is running out as well as your opportunity to "get-in" to any of the Best Airlines around that suits your qualification as well as your worth. It's a fair game and the market for qualified Pilots will close soon when all the vacansies are filled-up. Delay means opportunity lost.

Let the Airlines that "PAY PEANUTS, GET MONKEYS", coz' they deserve it.

BUT NOT YOU...:ok:

jamestaylor 9th Nov 2010 08:10

Air Phil Express
 
Better Deal - options to move up to bigger A/C (777?) later - and a good young team with huge growth opportunties............... And a management team that respects and supports the key contributions of all - especially the pilots...........

chairwrecker 10th Nov 2010 02:21

arigato, sadly, may be correct. look what 5J management did to the engineers. promises promises so they won't go to Airphil, but up to now, no improvement. instead, MB hires expats who cost 10x more than the locals!

looking at that record, i think 5J will try to bluff their way into not giving in to most demands from the pilots, and some pilots will leave anyway. then the vacancies will be filled with expats who enjoy at least 5x higher salary+perks, and the pinoy pilots who decided to be loyal will still be waiting for their promised pay adjustments. what a shame....

9ball 10th Nov 2010 22:53

It would be nice if DCtrue, Windwalker, and Navitimer can comment..........

chairwrecker 26th Nov 2010 01:01

why does the livery seem too small?

well, i guess it's time cebu pac got some serious competition for passengers AND crew! they have become too compacent the last couple of years that PAL was the only one they had to beat.

then next yr we have "chismis" abt airasia and jetstar also eager to get a slice of the philippines' soon-to-be 20 million aviation passengers market. oohhhhh that's too exciting thinking abt it now...:ok:

jetcruiser 6th Jan 2011 08:09

pay
 
C-95,

is it only the basic pay? how much more can you get including the flight pay?
Average hours per month?

thanks,
JC

onieangeles 7th Jan 2011 11:40

hey cebupac guys salary for your A320 is too much way ahead compare to seair 328, what more to our A319 so just think if you have brains do the mathematics airforce guys. i apply in your company but then i realize i dont have future in cebupac so what now! the world turns up and down we have the A319 and your pilots is very eager to join our family.

toffeebuenafe 7th Jan 2011 12:26

too many fragments of wrong grammar, onieangeles.
 
Mr. i-realized-bupak-is-not-good-enough-for-me, note your errors:
- an A320 does not earn. it's an airplane, SIR.
- learn to use the the word "THE". it wont hurt.
- take note of the past tense. like i applied and i realized.
- pilots is? or pilots are?

it's not because you dont like bupak. IT'S BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT A PILOT. Get english classes from a college like Ateneo, you surely need it :ok:

cessna95 7th Jan 2011 23:44

hahahahaha!

awesome reply toffee!

kontra 9th Jan 2011 03:56

onie.....

are you saying air force guys don't have brains?

what are you trying to say here? we cannot comprehend your "english". you might want to look into these links and invest in their books. the books can help you a lot

Amazon.com: English for Dummies: Software

Amazon.com: English Grammar for Dummies (9780764553226): Geraldine Woods: Books

LoverD 9th Jan 2011 05:17

Well Said Toffee!
 
Onie is definitely NOT former 220th AW. Go PAF!

yano 10th Jan 2011 01:26

Is it true that Ceb Pac pilots are leaving for Air Asia/ Air Phil ?

Reedeye 10th Jan 2011 14:03

Yap, its DCTrue!

yano 11th Jan 2011 14:23

Thank you, Reedeye.

and who's DCTrue? :rolleyes:

cessna95 12th Jan 2011 04:11

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...9_273808_n.jpg

camper 12th Jan 2011 11:18

nakakahiya:=:}

Bill Smith 8th Feb 2011 16:04

So what is the package?

emmma 28th Feb 2011 18:00

Hello Guys... do you know more or less how much Cebu is paying FO on atr?just to have an idea... PM appreciated thanks...

9ball 4th Mar 2011 07:21

Voluntary Improved
Benefit Program

New Productivity Pay / Hr
1 to 60 61 above

LFO 600 1,000
ATR FO 650 1,050
Airbus FO 1,100 1,500
ATR Captain 1,600 2,200
Airbus Captain 2,300 2,700


Calendar Days Off
• When a pilot is asked to work an extra day, consuming any of the
8 days-off per month, they will be compensated with an additional
1/30 of their basic pay for every days-off used.

Back-Of-The Clock
• Additional allowance from the 4th back-of the clock flight
rendered in a month
• P5,000 per captain / P2,500 per first officer

Supplement Medical Coverage
• Medical Fund - Additional P500 per flight crew/month shall
be provided by the company. This fund is to be managed by
CEB and HMO provider for medical assistance outside the
coverage of the HMO.

Vacation Leaves
• Vacation leaves for the years 2009, 2008 & 2007, still unused as of
April 1, 2011, will be converted to cash based on 100% of daily rate
• Daily rate based on basic salary as of April 1, 2011
• Payout shall be on June 15, 2011


Amended employment terms to include 90-day
separation notice
- Effective April 1, 2011

arigato 4th Mar 2011 09:47

Joke Time !!!
 
Here is the trick!!!

They gave you additional "chippy" then made you their "prisoner" by curtailing your freedom to leave with the "90 days separation notice". Watch-out for more tricks... :hmm:

Trick counter!!!

As a rated A320 Captain, your "NET MINIMUM PAY" after taxes right now is around P360K (80 block hours) in addition to a considerably nice TC with Air Asia Philippines. Yet, you are working at HOME.

Again, would you consider this an IMPROVEMENT?

Maybe, if it was implemented 5 years ago. :)

Therefore, a very "BAD JOKE" !!! :=

ReverseFlight 4th Mar 2011 10:35

Does Ceb Pac hire foreign non-Filipino F/Os on their A320s ?

yano 4th Mar 2011 12:53

any idea on the number of pilots leaving despite the "improved" package?

takamasa 5th Mar 2011 11:55

9ball,

just wondering how to read these number?/

New Productivity Pay / Hr
1 to 60 61 above

LFO 600 1,000
ATR FO 650 1,050
Airbus FO 1,100 1,500
ATR Captain 1,600 2,200
Airbus Captain 2,300 2,700

r they in US or Peso?

r these no. for monthly pay or ??

9ball 5th Mar 2011 12:23

figures are in Peso

Productivity pay, its the hourly rate for pilots while inside the cockpit.

yano 5th Mar 2011 12:57

what was the previous rates prior to these numbers?

and will they be implementing workload like air asia's (4days work/3days off) ? :O

takamasa 5th Mar 2011 13:14

is it like no more monthly pay at all ?

or hourly pay is on top of the base salary?

Superpilot 6th Mar 2011 08:57

Are Cebu finally opening up to foreign (expat ) FOs? I see the latest ads not stating the requirement to be a Philippines national.

bravehawk461 6th Mar 2011 10:00

yes, they are open to expats! pass your CVs now. AIRBUS and ATR FOs.

cessna95 6th Mar 2011 12:19

hourly pay is on top of the basic pay.

workload like airasia? hmm....let's just say you will love the schedule they give you.:ugh:

Carlitos14 6th Mar 2011 12:19

Hiring
 
Hi!!

Anyone knows when are they going to begin hiring FO´s??? I know they need pilots soon, but I do not know how will be the selection process and when do they want to do so.

bye!!

cessna95 8th Mar 2011 22:19

and today starts a new exodus after being given the 2 month bonus. :D:D

yano 9th Mar 2011 00:23

care to share the number of pilots leaving? :8

winglet777 9th Mar 2011 08:05

As of mar 1, a total of 46 pilots have resigned fromthe company within the period oct 2010 to mar 1 2011.. These pilots are now the workhorse drivers of tiger , airphil and zest airbus fleet. Alarmed by the exodus, the owner and mgmt immediately raised the salary on the 1st week ofmarch by an average of 18% pay rise on the productivity pay translating to an average of add'l U.S. $1300 for airbus captain and $ 900 for airbus fo respectively (figure is before tax), To make the offer more sweeter,and with the record breaking profit year for cebu pacfic, the owner awarded all pilots and employees an additional 2 months bonus (14 and 15th month pay) as part of annual profit sharing bonus on the company's 15th anniversary last mar 8 .

But this incentives comes with a price,in return, the company wants all the pilots to sign and employee-employee agreement before the apr 1 effectivity of pay increase stating therein that you are amenable to a 90 days resignation notice to the company (in contrary to a 30 days period mandated by law)

Still the increase was short of evryone expectations and still way below the salary range being recieved by airphil, sea tiger and zest airbus crew. With the mgmt refusal to show its sincerity in raising the working conditions, improving the pay and its unconditional determination to preserve its pilots, pilots moral is still low and everyone wants to go out if opportunity permits. As such, 5 airbus captains and 5 f/o's have submitted their resignation yesterday to join their former cebpac comrades in tiger sea air. Total count so far as of mar 9 is 56 pilots resignation. We expect more exodus since a total of 30 captains and 20 f/o's passed the air asia interview and due for sim eval in the coming days. We dont know whats the future holds for cebu pac but im petty sure that more flt cancellation and parked aircraftwith no crew to fly.


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