Clark Institute of Aviation
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msRz7-oiYrI

basically it's saying that this school will train the first Multi-Crew Pilot License holders in the world... a 12-month program worth $75000 (roughly 4 million Philippine Pesos).

cheers and enjoy the video!

:ok:

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nice vid!:D:D

*sigh* i really wanted to go in that school.. huhuhu.

Much less than 4 million now with the exchange rate.

Php45.90 to a USD

so that's Php3,442,500 when converted to USD as opposed to Php3,700,000 if a would-be local cadet pays it in full. the blessed locals who are being sponsored by Cebu Pacific pay half (Php1,850,000) and that's exclusive of the miscelaneous fees such as accomodation, meals, and other services (laundry, extra uniform orders).

it wasn't that long ago when it was about Php53 to a dollar.

airfoil
 

Quote: nice vid!:D:D

*sigh* i really wanted to go in that school.. huhuhu.
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Hi airfoil,

go & finish your degree first then come here... we believe sponsorship from cebu pacific will not end soon.... this place is a great school, one of the high standards school.... and cebu pacific's cadetship program is one of the best opportunities which sprung here in philippines...

keep aiming high!!!:ok:

cheers!!!

hey pumping iron,

are you sponsored by cebu pacific? is it a tough sponsorship to get?

when do you graduate from CIA?

no one has graduated from CIA just yet. there are 5 batches so far (i've seen a few guys passing by to take the assessment for the 6th) and the first batch will finish their training between December and January.

sponsorship from Cebu Pacific won't end anytime soon. depending on their demand for pilots, other cadets who are already in CIA and haven't got a contract with Cebu Pacific will be interviewed for sponsorship along with the ones who recently got accepted at CIA and also want to be sponsorsed. the full-paying (mostly foreigners) cadets would be recommended by the school to other airlines with needs for Airbus A320 pilots as well.

i'm also be a wannabe pilot here....


i've watched the recent video about the school....very impressive
very high standard and very high tuition fee.....


in just 12months....you're already a pilot of A320


can i ask some questions here about the MPL cadet pilot program in cebupac...and some confusing regulations of this kind of license....


what is the payment system of this kind of program? can i pay the 1,750,000 after the training(start of 5yrs bond) or pay it during the 12month training....


i have the book of the air laws of ATO.....
i read about the pilot license system
the only license recognized by the ATO is the
A.O 121 and A.O 135 ATPL license


and it is not indicated the "MPL" license system....
although it is approved already in ATO.....
i ask the ATO about this but they dont have the new laws about this kind of license...


can i ask how really MPL works?
and what is the legality of this kind of license....
and how can i guarantee that this kind of license can support my family and prolong my career...?


1. what is the full requirements of this kind of license....?
2. how many hours should i earn to have this kind of weird license...?
3. can be this license used in other airline companies?
4. can be this kind of license can be the same as the ATPL license..?
5. if this kind of license includes the IFR rating?
6. can i be promoted as a captain with this kind of license..?
7. how can i assure that a airline will not give discriminations of this kind of license?
8. can i act as a pilot-in-command wheter cessna or airbus?
9. if the license expires, can i take a ATPL exam instead of MPL?
10. can i get a prerequisites if i take the ATPL exam? instead of MPL?
11. if i have a logbook how can i expain to the examiner that i've logged in high-performanced jet in 5,000hrs. but only 70hrs of light aircraft?
and allow me to take a ATPL exams..?


i've read the info that a person has this kind of license...
you can be a F/O...but you cannot act as a pilot-in-command in a cessna!

can someone clarify on it?



although it is a very good facilities in clark institute of aviation....
including the training.....


but how can i assure that this kind of license will give me a good chance and have a good career....


and how really convincing that this kind of license will have a sure seat not only in cebupac...but also in other airlines companies......?


i hope that someone will have a very good answers to my questions....
to convince anyone to enter this profession and assurance of the future as a pilot wannabe...


thanks and happy flying

:):) thanks pumping iron! i'm graduating as a/c maintenance technician and planning to go there as soon as i finish the A&P exam and hoping that the CebPac sponsorhip won't end soon.
Godspeed everyone!

airfoil??



were u studying?? what course???

Here's some info about it from the ICAO website.

yap, 2 yrs. AMT.. ikaw?

pumping iron

bro! ts been a while. hows training? your school is garnering a lot of attention in that case more of your like (CADET PILOTS) will be trained there. as for me ive tried my luck in pal av school.

all the best to us,
dj

ATC....2yr course din...


what school?

rave: i'll be interviewed for sponsorship next week! wish me luck...
rant: knowing our ground instructor, he'd prolly wanna have us back at Clark immediately after the interview so as not to miss a beat in the lesson flow. at CIA, if someone gets delayed... the whole class will have to wait for him/her to be on the same pace. a lot of catching up work to do by missing a day.

dj852
 

pumping iron

bro! ts been a while. hows training? your school is garnering a lot of attention in that case more of your like (CADET PILOTS) will be trained there. as for me ive tried my luck in pal av school.

all the best to us,
dj
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Hi dj852! how are you bro??? long time it is...it's busy down here and it's stressfull...
Paolylo was right, if 1 person misses 1 exam, the whole class will not move forward for the next lesson until everyone have set their foot on the next line...

God bless to you dj852!!! hope to hesr more form you bro once you get the result from PAL Av sch...

Cheers!!!



Paolylo, bro which course are you from???
God Bless to your interview with cebu pac okay!!!:ok:

pumping iron

im so nervous man, im not so sure with my ending. i hope ts good naman.:ok:.

good luck on your training. safe flights.

@pumping iron
haha.. check this week's notice board for names, mine should be there.


PAL Av School is great but unfortunately the management rarely (dare i say never) accepts relatives of former PAL pilots who left for another airline. not having to wait 6 months was also a huge factor since there would be a batch each month at CIA and the classrooms are enough for people undergoing ground school.

i'm just glad for the opportunity to even be considered by CebuPac for a sponsorship & a 3 year contract.

Cheers!
:ok:

pumping iron......


can i ask some questions???



what are the requirements needed to apply the cadet program in cebupac??



what is the payment system of the training??? can be paid after the training(start of 5yr bond as a F/O) or during the 12month traning??



right now....i'm having my OJT as a A/C maintenance...


and my plan is to take the assessment test in CIA after i grad to my course...next year


can you give some advices for this......



thanks and happy flying...

@happy flying boy kurimaw

CebuPac has no cadet program. they just happen to have a number of vacancies for pilots at the moment and they have partnered with CIA in training their current pilots by using CIA's Airbus simulator and in giving some CIA cadets a sponsorship. as far as CIA is concerned, they will recommend you to CebuPac for a sponsorship if you did well in the assessment.

as for the payment, the assessment is Php10K. if you've made it assuming you've received a sponsorship and opted not to pay Php1.85M one time... the installment is Php537,500 upon enrollment, and 3 more payments of Php437,500 after 30, 60, and 120 days payable by cash or check. if you won't be sponsored or won't be even offered to be sponsored, it's double the cost... Php3.7M or $75K

i do suggest for you to check from time to time the status of Cebu Pacific's pilot vacancies. the sponsorships are on a limited first-come first-serve basis so if Cebu Pacific doesn't need anymore pilots, you'd have to wait for another season of pilot vacancies. for the assessment, brush up on english sentence completion and advanced algebra... there's also an annoying video game section where it will test your hand-eye coordination, listening comprehension, and focus.

thanks for the info paolylo....



i hope that next year....they open again some opportunities....

thanks paolylo!
i really need that infos.. :D:D

A320 Clark
 

I read this in the Philippine Star newspaper, i think it answers a lot of questions. According to sources 40 more sponsorship places are available with 50% of the course cost covered by Cebu Pacific.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9497289@N03/668654574/

pfd99

@airfoil
you're welcome :ok:


OT:
i read CIA's website again, i stand corrected on the simulator. Gokongwei owns it and CIA helps in maintaining it & training the pilots who will use it.

Have been told they are now recruiting for the next course starting August 06th. I was advised that if you pass all the criteria you can get 50% sponsorship from CebuPac. Good luck to you all. Check the advert again in my previous post.

pfd99

pfd99


i ask if the CIA offers other payment scheme system...??


pay the P1,750,000 for 2yrs above??

@an2ni

yup, i got a sponsorship. good luck with your application. if you're absolutely certain of being accepted in CIA, i recommend that you accomplish the ATO medical clearance as soon as possible... it's advisable to take your blood chemistry and ecg stress test elsewhere. the ATO doctor is in every weekdays from 10-12 for the checkup.

@paolylo

how long did it took you to finish your medical? thanks

Clark Institue of Aviation
 

I'm really interested about this organisation. On their brochure, there's a job guarentee after you complete A320 TR and base training.

People say it's too good to be true. what do you think?

Terrain Terrain... Pull Up!!!
 

with 200 hours + 320 type rating + Clark Training = a very big disaster!! The only reason a company would hire a pilot with that low experience is coz they cost less. Lets face it.... it isn't because it is safer! It isn't because they are the nicest people in the world!!! Its because it costs less. I'm not saying the best pilot trainee couldn't do it... i'm saying that the majority of pilot trainees with that kind of experience would be a liability to the safety of the flight. At best the FO would be a passenger... being so far behind the aircraft that it would be over before it started. There are reasons for minimum flight time.
Nothing is guarenteed in the world, especially when it comes to Aviation. So when reading a brochure on the Clark institute... take it with grain of salt.. examine your options carefully coz as the saying goes... if it sounds too good to be true, IT USUALLY IS!!

if it sounds too good to be true, IT USUALLY IS!!....... and how many countires accept the MPL as yet...

lively debate is occuring on the Pilot Wannabe forum under the topic of "MPL - Is it Mickey Mouse?".

I started the debate going and whilst i've received a lot of constructive comments, bot for and against, it's still something I'm weighing up.

@an2ni

with the ATO medicals, you can do the treadmill stress test and blood chemistry (ask the ATO clinic what you'll specifically need) elsewhere... everything else must be completed in their clinic. you'd have to wait one week for the results of the drug test and the treadmill stress test so it should take a week if everything else goes smoothly as planned.

i believe i've already started a thread on this topic

requesting moderator to merge this thread with the link above.

@lee_apromise - i'll send you a pm about it.

as i've mentioned in other threads, i'm not in a position to defend or critique the MPL since i've only been in ground school at Clark for a couple of months and our first batch of cadets are still waiting to fly our school's light aircraft. Cebu Pacific Airlines truly believes in the potential of the MPL because it's in their business interests. pioneering? let's just wait how my upper batch colleagues will do when they take to the skies early next year.

we're less than 80 cadets here and growing each month... there are the foreigners, the loyal Cebu Pac employees that qualified for the sponsorship, and those whose benefactors could afford the tuition (including the would-be 2nd generation pilots, don't ask why some of us didn't go to PAL Av School instead) who are also sponosored by Cebu Pacific.

those who wish to castigate Clark Aviation and the MPL may do so in the thread provided by Mach086.

Cheers!

and how many countires accept the MPL as yet... its a simple queston and want Clark to give a simple answer...

Well Australia is on its way to approving it. All early students of all of the MPL schools will be closely monitored during and after they complete the program by the international aviation community. After the first classes graduate and they start flying we will see if the program has any value. 12 months of training is alot of time if the program is well thought out and presents the right information.

http://casa.gov.au/fcl/multicrew/index.htm

it's already approved here in the Philippines; however our aviation autorities are still keeping a close eye on the training as this is the first of its kind in the world (Clark's ground school is based on JAA APTL courses by Bristol Groundschool in the UK, we'll only have 70 hours of light aircraft using Alpha Robins, and it's the CAE A320 simulator all the way until we get rated to fly the Airbus A320)

any one got a problem with MPL course ?? or clark aviation??

PM me who got a problem

I really believe that many people are shooting from the hip.

1) The MPL concept was an ICAO initiative to address the very real problem of a shortage of correctly trained airline pilots. This programme was the end result of around 20+ member states so by inference, 20+ member states will approve it.
2) Clark and Alteon are running MPL programmes that exceed the ICAO requirements
3) Comments such as “200 hours + 320 ( or any other ) type rating = disaster are just plain ridiculous. Airlines such as British Airways and Lufthansa have been doing just this for over 20 years, albeit in the more traditional training format.
4) All MPL programmes and students are being and will be more closely monitored than any other student has ever been/will ever be.
5) Where this idea that the MPL is a cheap solution comes from is beyond me. In most environments it could actually cost more. It’s prime objectives are time savings and competency, not $$$$
6) Just how successful the MPL will be is still uncertain as of course no MPL license has yet been issued. However if the MPL isn’t a success, there are going to be a lot of airframes parked up in deserts as no one else has come up with an alternative solution to address the pilot shortage and possibly a more critical shortage, that of flight instructors. Asia has the problem now. Europe is not far behind. Because of their unique GA situation the US may be able to survive without changing training philosophies, but at least Clark, Alteon and others are doing something.

Have a read here as well regarding the MPL.

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=285139