Jet
 

So I hear that the infamous and highly unpopular Werner Borchert has been fired from JetAirways. Does anyone have the dirt as to what led to his much awaited departure? Many have not considered JetAirways because of him. I guess life will now improve at Jet?:ok:

Blade inc : Thank you for correcting me and you are 100% right, the requirement is 300 hrs and a check for f/o's t/off & ldgs .

C500 : the money you get here is after tax, Jet is paying taxes in India on your behalf . This has to be stated on your contract .
Regarding your licence renew, unless approved by your licensing authority, you have to do it back home at your own expenses and your own time off .

WB fired ? I guess i'm too far from SM centre !!!!!!


DJ

Mud skipper,

10 330's and 10 777's are coming, 340 will go . The rumor is that European routes and bases will become 777 ones .

Licence renew
 

Regarding that licence renewal issue, as far as I know, the operator ( in this case JET) should carry out OPC-s and Line checks on their own expenses according their Indian AOC.
The copy of the report of these checks can be used toward the renewal at the issuing authorities at home.

Thanks Darkjet and thanks to those who PM'd me.

B777
 

No need to PMs, boys. We are fighters on the same league!
A friend of mine was offered a contract, 777 DEC, and it does not mention a word about basing, days off policy etc.
Maybe this was written on WBs days...

Anymore on the same?

How is the nightlife and entertainment in India. How are the girls? Do they like foreigners?

Night Life
 

If girls in your part of the world like you then you should have no problem with girls in India. They are some very pretty ones there, especially the hosties who are usually between 18-25, unmarried and educated. Nightlife is like any big city. Lots of disco's etc.

For the folks already on a European bas (A340?) - Are you also flying the 6 on, 1 off rosters? If not, what are the rosters like? In advance, thanks.

Uhuhuh, Actually, Girls don't like me in my part of the world thats why I was asking if my chanses would be better in India :}

Jet
 

Jimmy..Jimmy...Jimmy......... What can I say, just come on down and try your luck! Here are some positives--With a population of over 1 Billion, there is bound to be someone of the female persuation that likes you! Unless ofcourse you want to play for the other team!!!:p In all seriousness, there are plenty of very attractive girls who are interested in being with expats. You just have to find the right one. Try not to "date" where you work or as they say steal from the company cookie jar. If it does not work out, all your details will be in the ladies room and your name will be mud. You know the saying... a woman scorned:yuk: :ouch: :{

I will keep that in mind :E

Seriosly speaking I was just interested how my social life would be in India.

Jet
 

Social Life in India is great.. if you have money in India you can live well. Now if you work 6/1 I doubt that you will have the energy to do anything on your day off!!

On another note, anyone at JetAirways---Is the two weeks off you get paid or unpaid? I think Spicejet offers 3 weeks off? Anyone know? It can make a difference b/c if you think you are being paid $8700/month, you really are not b/c the weeks off add up. You are probably only being paid for 40 weeks out of 52.

DarkjetC500 : the money you get here is after tax, Jet is paying taxes in India on your behalf . This has to be stated on your contract .

Darkjet, I think you may be wrong about the tax bit. What they advertise on Randhem ($4400) for F/O's is before tax. Deduct 33% to that :eek:. Then again I may be wrong. Do you have your info from a good source ?

i heard they want you to convert your 737 efis type in the NG within three months of employment? where is a chep place where you can do the conversion? how long does it take?

Jet
 

Is there a DGCA requirement to have 3 months left on your PC when you join an Indian Airline?

-Magist: Jet is doing all the company training ie;ground school,line training, route check etc.... But you are responsible to maintain your licence, IFR and medical current .

-NG Fellow : you are getting paid even in your 2 or 3 weeks off every 2 month .

-Santos : I am not familiar with the Randhem scheme, the infos I gave on the tax are for expat Cpt's : 8700 $ after tax .

I am going for an interview at Randhem. I would be very happy if I got the job.
3 years of 737 flying in india will be an adventure I never will forget. :D

Question
 

Does anyone really understand the situation regarding airline flying in India on a US/FAA license? It seems some are doing it, but the obstacles are daunting. Any help? :confused:

FAA licenses in India
 

If hired as an expat you fly on your US credentials. The airline takes care of the rest-ie. you take a few exams and thats it.

Rostering at Airlines in India
 

Can anyone tell me what kind of schedules are normal for the airlines in India. I know the 6 ON 1 OFF deal, but I wanted to know if Jet/or Spice/KF had 3-4 day trips or are they all day trips on the 737NG/A320. Also is there a Reserve system in place as well (at home or ready at the airport). Do expats go through ground school, sim training and then operating experience before line release? How long does that take?

Is there a programm where it is possible to upgrade expat F/O to the left seat?
This is also very important question if you ask me while making a decision.
If yes what are the requirements?

Has anyone recieved a security clearance with JetAirways since November?

Rostering in India - at the moment & expat upgrades
 

Most of my flights (A320), tend to rtn on a daily basis. There is not much overnighting at present either.

YUCCY - To answer your qu - not many at this point in time. Most expat pilots are on rolling contracts, & therefore, it does not make sense to the operator to upgrade the expat FO to the LHS. Whether this is a bad thing or not is debatable. However, for the time being, Expats are seen purely as a stop gap for the operators until they can fill seats with local pilots.

How is the selection pros. for non typerated pilots. Going for interview with randhem soon.

I do not know what to expect on that interview, any suggestions?

thanks.
:ok:

Thank you very much for reply.
It will be very interesting topic if it is trouth that pilots on Randhem scheme have to sign 5years bond.

Any information about Randhem conditions??
How come a 3 years contract with a 5 years bond???

Any information about their screening process?
I heard an interview + a group interview.

Any information about the questions being asked?

Thanks.

How do companies secure their bonds ? I have heard that they make you make out many cheques in their favour and then return a cheque at a time till the stipulated bond time. Are there other ways ? What could be a plausible amount and schedule in the Jet/Randhem scenario ? What is it elsewhere ?

Would anyone out there actually consider bonding himself for 5 years ? :uhoh: And that as an expat in a foreign country one may or may not like ? :\

SD

Accomodation
 

The first deal was 3000 euro tax free and five star luxury apartment.

Now it is $4400 and 33% tax and shared two bed room accomodation.

Accomodation in Mumbai is really expensive. You need some
$2500-$3500 do get a descent apartment. If there still are $1800 allowance it won't get you far.

What is the next deal?

Bonds
 

The bond is for 3 years, not 5.....

Before you fly off to Miami for your type rating you pay 5000Euros (6400Dollars) wich you later get back IF you stay 3 years at Jet Airways.... IF you quit before your contract expiers you have to pay them back what you owe them for the type rating minus the time you´ve been working there and minus the 5000 Euros

Exaple: type rating = 30 000 Euros
You work there for 2 years= 20 000Euros
(30 000/3 years = 10 000 per year)
30 000-20 000-5000= 5000Euros

So...If you work there for 2 years you owe them 5000 Euros...

Hope to see ya´ll soon:)

30.000€???
On their website they publish 15000€ for the type rating + 5000€ for the 6 T/O and LDG...
How do they secure the bond C500??

Any informations about the interview and the group interview?

The interview is held from coming monday to friday.
I've heard that this interview round is currently full/closed.


"Thank you, come again" - apu.:ok:

First of all Fly2Fly it was an example..... How much they actually figure it´s going to cost I don´t know.....

To your other question about how they secure the bond... I´m afraid I don´t know that eather.... but as soon as I find out I´ll post it here...

Hepp:)

It will help if anyone from this week interview give a briefing of what was going on?
Type of questions, exercices, information given, conditions, etc...

Thanks.

Is not the contract a bond?
I really hope that they wont ask me for money or a bank loan. 5000eu is ok, but more than that I am not willing to pay them.
Read in a Swedish forum that one of the questions asked is "What happends with the top of descent when the aircraft is heavier than planned" I think it is that you are going to have higher kinetic energy and therefore you need more NM to slow down. Any suggestion.
Going for the interview tomorrow. I am so nervous before interviews. Do you have any advise how to cope with interviews?

Randhem FAQs
 

Randhem finally posts FAQs on their website. Some are a bit confusing though. Like do they really work 6 days and then get 7 days off ? :}

Frequent Asked Questions:
We cant answer any question by phone, please send them by e-mail.
Thank you for your understanding.
Who will pay for Medical and proficiency check?
Jet Airways will revalidate the licenses.
What kind of roster we they have?
The monthly roster will be as follows: Minimum flying for 100 hours. 6 days ON and 7 days OFF. Pilots will be pulled out to do flight duty according to the published planned roster or on a requirement basis.
Are we able to fly home during days off, if so will Jet Airways give us ID tickets or discount?
They will be able to utilize the staff tickets and interline tickets arrangements as per the existing policy. Leave entitlement will be confirmed to you shortly.
Will I return to base every night, if not is there any per diem allowance?
Most probably they will return to base city. On layover flights the pilots will be provided with hotel and meals.
Who will take care of the VISA and license conversion for India, cost?
Jet Airways will take care of validation.
What happens if you for some reason must terminate the contract before the 3 years period?
If the termination is on account of misconduct the deposit of Euro 5000 will be forfeited.
Cost of Jeppesen introduction copy?
Jeppesen copies are on board and will be provided to the pilots.
Will we be provided transportation to and from work?
Jet Airways will provide transportation to and from for flights duty.
Do you have any information regarding the accommodation in India?
The pilots will be provided with sharing 2 bedroom accommodation in India.
Is there a chance that I have to wait a long time before I receive my first salary after training is completed? The salary shall start on his joining Jet Airways in India. Once the candidate obtains his B737 endorsement, we will initiate the security clearance process for employment in India for which the copy of his current medical, license and passport is a pre-requisite. The security clearance normally takes around 45 days and we will intimate the candidate once we receive the same.
Loss of license, how much?
INR 42 lakhs (95000 USD)

Is Jet Airways A Good Option?
 

Hi guys!

I have done the interview with Randhem for the first officer position in the 737 working for Jet Airways and I would like to have first hand information from somebody who is currently working for them.

I was told in the interview that it would be really tough :} ..and to be honest I am not enterely sure if I would be able to cope with living in India and all that stuff..This would be my first jet job so its a great oportunity that I dont want to miss.

The contract is for 3 years and they said that it would be really difficult to get a job back in Europe if you quit before those 3 years due to the very bad references that they would give about you, waht do you thinK?? Has anybody been in that situation??

I would really appreciate any information...

Cheers!!

I have a screening coming up very soon for 738FO, any info or tips for interview and sim.
any help very much appreciated.
thanks:ok:

The conversion from Efis to NG only takes 3 to 4 days. It costs roughly 4 to 5 grand (us currency). So I've been told. You can get it done in Miami, and Amsterdam. Jet had a sim and could actually do it for quite a bit less but I think they're rather busy.
Can anyone confirm the rumor of WB departure from JA???

C500 Congrats for the job offer.Can you tell us how long after they offered you the job they require you to start training?