Almost all the contracts are within $200 per month of each other.

You have to look at the fine print. The reason IAC looks so much better is that they actually pay you your retirement in cash, rather than have their own 401(k) to put it in.

The different, as you said, is around $7,800 per year, but you still get it with HACS and PARC; it's just paid differently.

Hi Lear

Haven't got the paperwork in front of me but seemed that both HACS and IAC included it as part of your salary (they MENTIONED it certainly but the figure was a part, not separate, from your salary.)

Parc had it as a stand-alone figure.

Happy to be corrected if mistaken.
Cheers

Me too, would like to know if the PARC or HACS contract was that much more lucrative than IAC's but, from my research, I can only come up with about a $150 or so difference.

Maybe the full renumeration package has some extra $$ hidden somewhere in it in the PARC or HACS contract, I only have the IAC full package and the basics of the others...

PARC sets up your retirement as a separate account. The bupa coverage in the US is ONLY for the employee, the family is not included visiting or not. I had to get suplemental medical for my wife and kids, now bupa does cover your family anywhere else you wish to live.

I just sat down with the contract outlines from IAC and Parc and used the outline from the HACS/CREW website and simply added up all the bits and pieces for a total after 5 years.

Assuming I checked the figures correctly IAC were better by around $8,000 after 5 years - exactly why I don't know.

Once again not commenting about the "quality" of any agencies, simply looking at the $$$$.

Ohhhh, over the entire TERM... I thought you meant $8k per year. :}

My bad...

Yes, it probably works out to that. I found about $150 per month difference which is indeed about $1,800 per year or almost $9,000 over the 5-year term as well.

I think we were saying the same thing,,, :ok:

Mr Lear

If only!

To utter that immortal quote "..tell 'im he's dreaming!"

Cheers
galdian

BTW: SW says g'day. ;)

Sim time
 

Hey Dominican,
I have a question for you. I work where you used to out of MSP and actually flew with you at least once. I still work there and have the interview with AJV coming up. Is it worth my while to buy some 767 sim time? I just looked into it and it isn't cheap. But in the long run may be worthwhile.

Anyone else interviewing in Feb. interested in renting a sim?

So what happened with the two guys in the latest class who got canned BETWEEN their 1st and 2nd JCAB checks?

Hey J-bo, I sent you a PM

No PM received, take care of AL for me. And watch out for that crazed Kiwi!

Folks thanks for replies to my previous post. good information.

Whats the word on upgrades. Got told no more skippers needed due to upgrades from within...believe that was ajx.

Any actual upgraders on this?

They've been upgrading from within for over 3 years.....like any airline just do your time don't piss anyone off and you should be given a chance

Thanks captain

Do you have a reprisal policy in the company? Just wondering if they
would hang people for every little ****....

Capt Coco - So this is "correct" then?

"AJX and AJV plan a very aggressive program of upgrading all qualified FOs for the next few years. While CREW is not in a position to make any promises in this regard we believe that this program will result in some very attractive opportunities for pilots who wish to upgrade to Captain in a wide-body aircraft. AJX/AJV have given us the following statement of policy:

“Each AJX and AJV First Officer may expect to have an opportunity for captain upgrade training process during the initial contract period.”

CREW has enough confidence in the intentions of AJX/AJV to pass this on to you for your consideration."

CP

Yes, there is a record of command upgrades and this policy has just been revised and published.

There is a strong probability that an FO will be offered the opportunity to upgrade in the first 5 years, realistically after 3 to 4 years of joining.

Look carefully at the requirements to join as an FO, the salary being paid. Pretty crappy deal if you're not living in the US, considering the performance of the US$.

Also, AJX has been experiencing a very high failure rate of new hires, possibly as high as 50%. The failure rate applies to both new hire capt and FO. The sucess rate of upgrades so far is very good.

I believe that the failure rate is improving, it has been high but it is only a statistic, it is not that hard, refer to the Dominican.
I think it is safe to say that there has not been an FO in over six years that has not been offered an upgrade within their contract period. There has been one failure, that resulted in a 12 month wait and subsequent pass.
The upgrade is not under three years, but is definately less than five. This is not stated ANA policy it is purely based on the history.
Gambate ne

Anyone hear about May 08 classes. I have been offered a position in Feb 08, by Crew. Suppose to hear about a class date in April. Kind of short notice but anyone with a skinny would be appreciated.
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Anyone hear about May 08 classes. I have been offered a position in Feb 08, by Crew. Suppose to hear about a class date in April. Kind of short notice but anyone with a skinny would be appreciated.

My understanding was that there is an AJV class in July 08. Heard that they run 3 classes a year--spring, summer, and fall. Any idea if the AJV/AJX candidates are all placed in the same classes?

Jepp

Yes, AJV/AJX candidates are placed in the same class during ground school and SIM. Then they go their separate ways during OJT

Good luck to the new folks starting class:ok: