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mooney59 5th May 2005 07:08

Intresting approaches:
 
http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/maxhoi/wmbt/

WMBT finals, any comments anyone!?

Sultan Ismail 5th May 2005 08:41

And the overshoot isn't much fun either.

They also have a "Checkerboard" similar to Kai Tak, however when I was there it had slipped down the mountain in a monsoon storm. Fortunately I did not see it and try to use it.

There is a great sense of satisfaction when safely on the ground and the wheels are chocked, just need to change the underwear.

Warhawk 6th May 2005 23:42

Well if you guys think that is a "scary" approach don't leave home without your mummy.

Compared to the "airports" that many pilots face daily in places like South America, African highlands, Papua New Guinea, Alaska, NZ, etc that place is a joke!

Nicely sealed and marked runway, bugger all slope too. Oooohhhhhhh I'm soooooo scared!


:}

Kaptin M 7th May 2005 00:14

You sound like on tough, gung-ho, macho guy, Warhawk.
The sort that usually over rates his own capabilities, and under rates his mortality.

WLM 7th May 2005 03:52

OK may be Warhawk was a little hasty in his reply, but I have to agree with him about other runways being a lot harder than this particular example.
Experience of course will help and may be this approach was quite daunting to a newbie. Anyway we've all been down this road and still flying safely ;)

Five Livers 7th May 2005 11:07

I'm in Thailand at the moment. I've just tried the link in the first post and it's been blocked by the Thai Ministry of Information!!

Can someone please say where the airfield in question is and whether it's supposed to be a secret? Thanks

vfenext 7th May 2005 11:54

Ask Warhawk, sounds like he has been there at night in zero zero with night vision goggles on and reading a book on CRM by torchlight all at the same time! What a man!

greybeard 7th May 2005 14:18

Looks nearly as much fun as Kathmandu RW 02 on a dark/hazy/stormy day with a circle to land 20 as well for the FUN OF IT ALL.

Miss the flying in "retirement" but seem to be buisier???? with part time Sim work

C YA

Greybeard

:ok:

ZFT 8th May 2005 03:59

Five Livers,

Must be your ISP.

No problems viewing it with Samart

mooney59 8th May 2005 05:36

He sounds like the kind that is brought up during CRM.A ''future big smoking hole in the ground'' type.

Five Livers 8th May 2005 10:43

Thanks ZFT, I don't know what's happening.

QNH1013 kindly PM'd me with another link and exactly the same thing happened - the www.angel address starts to load and then, straight to the 'Cyber Inspector' at the Thai Ministry of Information & Communication Technology

Big brother must be bored!

astina 8th May 2005 15:12

from airliners.net

another photo taken at Tioman.

Tutaewera 9th May 2005 07:37

While I agree that the tone of reply from "warhawk" was not required. I must admit that this appears to be far from a dangerous or difficult runway by any "bush" pilot's standard.

What a beautiful location though! I bet the DHC7 crews must enjoy the trip...

:O

Sultan Ismail 11th May 2005 08:15

Tioman Island is a challenge, because the approach is a descending turn directly onto short finals, the pic in the original posting is taken as the aircraft levelled out, the problem lies in a a mountain slope on the approach side that comes right down to the runway edge, as can be seen in Astina's post the undershoot is very inhospitable and the overshoot doesn't exist.

Some of the so-called difficult approaches on this thread and the parallel thread in "Private Flying" forum have the benefit of an undershoot and an overshoot, these don't exist at Tioman, hence the relief when you chock the aircraft.

But its a 900 metre tar strip, should be a doddle, what also adds to the tension is the descent over the sea coming from the mainland, you get get this all wrong and you start swimming.

Tutaewera 12th May 2005 01:17

Limited go around and a curved approach. Interesting but really not that special. Little slope and as you say a longish sealed runway down at sea level. No go around or undershoot defines most one way hill strips, which in many cases have steep slopes, uneven and slippery grass or dirt surfaces and high altitude to boot.

Maybe surprising to the inexperienced or the usual airline pilot but I' afraid it doesn't rate as a difficult strip, merely a small airport with some restrictions. By the stds of many places its a nice one.

Still Tioman is a beautiful and interesting approach. Just was a little surprised by the "white knuckle" and "needed to change my shorts" comments!


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