SilkAir releases 8 expatriate pilots
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OZZY AIRBOuRNE I see you wish you join the list of a***holes picking up on minor spelling errors!!! I have therefore added an 'u' in your name so that it matches that of the other Ozzy. I don't think he would like being compared to him as being 'obnoxious' Do you really know the meaning of the word I wonder???
Your remarks to Lee are pretty pathetic and I can see nothing in any of our messages that warrant such loutish behaviour from you.
PS The History lesson as you wish to call it was not for just your benefit but for the wider audience who may not know what has been going on in SIA.
PPS Do you still have a Beard??
Your remarks to Lee are pretty pathetic and I can see nothing in any of our messages that warrant such loutish behaviour from you.
PS The History lesson as you wish to call it was not for just your benefit but for the wider audience who may not know what has been going on in SIA.
PPS Do you still have a Beard??
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Most of U need to enrol in a CRM course
If I may put in my 2 cents worth, considering the way you guys rant & rave being professionals, my suggestion is to enrol in some real CRM courses,special on module 5 ( cultures)
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SIA CRM.
Yes they are being held, a very necessary part of "normal" Airline life and probably needed even more at the moment to ensure safety is not compromised in the current "Industrial situation".
Culture is important also, the local culture is to shed all the overseas based Pilots followed by the locally employed Expat Captains to be replaced with foreign nationals on "local" terms.
This is allowed for in the CA in force at this time, already happening it is "rumoured" in Silk Air.
???? who do the F/Os fly with if you sack only Captains.
Sia has already shed at least 8 Expats as well, some being too "old" to qualify for fleet upgrade, some for NSR, and has left a number on the 310 in limbo with no course date or so called future after the 310 ceases as of 31 May.
The offer made by HR was to retire early, and pay back your training bond if still applicable, or VNPL with no travel, no ability to work elsewhere, no expat housing allowance, or CNPL effective as a 20-25% pay cut or retrenchment.
The association bless their little hearts are mulling this all over and will lean toward the Culture option I feel.
So now what happens when things pick up as they have over the last 40+ years I have been in this Industry, you don't get all of the ones you retrench back, you have a reputation as a "poor" employer and tend to get people who are lower on the food chain than the ones who left.
I will miss the flying but not the job and sadly not SIA after 10 years, I was terminated by a 'phone call after a flight, standing in the FCC so that, as I was going on leave I would be able to start my notice not have the Company need to pay me another week??
I have had nasty tastes before, this one will be spat out in time, but it was a nice touch after 10 years.
As for CRM, I'll be there as my love of the task is above the crap that this place and others in '89 can dish out
Sui Generus.
C YA
Yes they are being held, a very necessary part of "normal" Airline life and probably needed even more at the moment to ensure safety is not compromised in the current "Industrial situation".
Culture is important also, the local culture is to shed all the overseas based Pilots followed by the locally employed Expat Captains to be replaced with foreign nationals on "local" terms.
This is allowed for in the CA in force at this time, already happening it is "rumoured" in Silk Air.
???? who do the F/Os fly with if you sack only Captains.
Sia has already shed at least 8 Expats as well, some being too "old" to qualify for fleet upgrade, some for NSR, and has left a number on the 310 in limbo with no course date or so called future after the 310 ceases as of 31 May.
The offer made by HR was to retire early, and pay back your training bond if still applicable, or VNPL with no travel, no ability to work elsewhere, no expat housing allowance, or CNPL effective as a 20-25% pay cut or retrenchment.
The association bless their little hearts are mulling this all over and will lean toward the Culture option I feel.
So now what happens when things pick up as they have over the last 40+ years I have been in this Industry, you don't get all of the ones you retrench back, you have a reputation as a "poor" employer and tend to get people who are lower on the food chain than the ones who left.
I will miss the flying but not the job and sadly not SIA after 10 years, I was terminated by a 'phone call after a flight, standing in the FCC so that, as I was going on leave I would be able to start my notice not have the Company need to pay me another week??
I have had nasty tastes before, this one will be spat out in time, but it was a nice touch after 10 years.
As for CRM, I'll be there as my love of the task is above the crap that this place and others in '89 can dish out
Sui Generus.
C YA
greybeard
Have enjoyed and found your CRM contributions on Pprune professionally helpful.
Don't forget the pprune median. A silent and greatful crowd of CRM students.
The Singaporian way of business is copping a backlash in countries where they attempt foreign investment.
The treatment of the Silk Air expats probably lost them their last 16000 supporters in Australia.
Have enjoyed and found your CRM contributions on Pprune professionally helpful.
Don't forget the pprune median. A silent and greatful crowd of CRM students.
The Singaporian way of business is copping a backlash in countries where they attempt foreign investment.
The treatment of the Silk Air expats probably lost them their last 16000 supporters in Australia.
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greybeard
You have been treated with the characteristic shabbiness for which SQ is rightly famous.
I note with considerable respect that your professionalism allows you to rise above the “slings and arrows” of outrageous fortune dished out since ’89 by SQ and others and that you still feel enough motivation to pass on the CRM fruits of your many years flying experience, once you move on from the Republic of Greed.
I feel sure that distance, time and reflection will lend only commiseration with the fate of all those left behind and those misguidedly to yet join SQ, on the increasingly poor terms & conditions to be offered. Our only compensation is the realisation that we are, in the main, honourable professionals and that those set above us are not.
The very best of good luck in the future.
You have been treated with the characteristic shabbiness for which SQ is rightly famous.
I note with considerable respect that your professionalism allows you to rise above the “slings and arrows” of outrageous fortune dished out since ’89 by SQ and others and that you still feel enough motivation to pass on the CRM fruits of your many years flying experience, once you move on from the Republic of Greed.
I feel sure that distance, time and reflection will lend only commiseration with the fate of all those left behind and those misguidedly to yet join SQ, on the increasingly poor terms & conditions to be offered. Our only compensation is the realisation that we are, in the main, honourable professionals and that those set above us are not.
The very best of good luck in the future.
