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Old 15th Mar 2003, 22:26
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Yeah,,,'WhenRequired'....when not required PFO.
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Old 16th Mar 2003, 08:44
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Bit of sour grapes there I think Idunno, apparently the Malaysian Co. concerned is very happy with their expats, very experienced, high time on type so much so they negotiated their own contract at a very good rate much to the annoyance of the contract placement outfits.

To be so lucky - no middleman taking the spoils and leaving the drivers with sh.......t!
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Old 16th Mar 2003, 11:02
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Hi Papee,
I certainly got my job now because not enough locals to fill the position. I hope the same happens with Air Asia as would be very happy to work for them, but not if taking a job away from local.
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Old 17th Mar 2003, 00:12
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FarQ2, Been there, Done that, Got the Lah T-Shirt and now have a far better job elsewhere on proper Western money and conditions. They can keep it.

Just found the hypocrisy a bit much to swallow. Malaysian men marrying western women getting PR in western countries. Western men marrying Malaysian women getting no such rights in Malaysia.

IMHO western countries should start applying the principal of reciprocity instead of the current 'open arms' policy.

You get as good as you give....seems fair to me.
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Old 17th Mar 2003, 23:56
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Just found the hypocrisy a bit much to swallow. Malaysian men marrying western women getting PR in western countries. Western men marrying Malaysian women getting no such rights in Malaysia.
I agree with you Idunno.

My mother is Malaysian.. I was born elsewhere, however I have no rights whatsoever in Malaysia... If she was a European, I could have gone for the whole friggin nine yards for citizenship...

And where I live, New Zealand, thats a perfect example of 'open arms policy' where I have to compete with people born overseas that can hold jobs in their own country as well as come after my own job in New Zealand!!! Wheres the fairness in that!?!

Some will say that the immigrants work harder therefore deserve to prosper, but friggin heck I've worked hard as much as the next man to get where I am, but I don't have the right to work in two countries!
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Old 18th Mar 2003, 03:43
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Hej Cypher.

You're a slightly different kettle of fish though - 1st generation born out of the country - of course that would be a more tenuous link than marrying a local lass (ask ya father). I agree the terms of reciprocity are hardly equal though - better if your father had been the Malaysian, but then ces't la vie.

Mind you though, if KL was where you wanted to go, having half a link back to the country is better than no link at all - you need to work out the right "pitch" like an instructor's "patter". You have one advantage many others don't - I'm sure you can find out "how it all goes" ... if you wanted to
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Old 18th Mar 2003, 06:00
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Cypher, be very careful what you wish for.

Presently the laws here state that dual nationality is a big no no.Yeah, you could come back & get your citizenship (a long or short process, depending on the circumstances) & get a job here categorised as a local, but then you have to give up your kiwi citizenship....... & the pay is nothing to shout about too!

Personally, I have no problems with men from other nationalities getting their PR & working here.However the job market here generally, are pretty tight, so it's 'survival of the fittest!'


Safe Flying All.


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Old 18th Mar 2003, 08:38
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Cypher, be very careful what you wish for.
Yeah you are right.. be bloody careful what I wish for.. a job would be a good start!

But from the looks of it.. it looks to be pretty easy to get your NZ PR once you got your Malaysian anyway!! They're taking people here left right and centre!

Cross Check..
yes it is a different kettle of fish.. but from what I understand.. most 1st generation British born here in NZ can apply for a British Passport before the age of 21!! I believe that rule applies for most European nationalites..
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