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Wife wants to move to Singapore, I need a job ;-)

Old 24th Aug 2019, 02:27
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hi there,

DECís on SIAís widebodies could not be possible, but the rest you are definitely good to go ��
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Old 24th Aug 2019, 13:06
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300K a year and cant survive in spore? Are you sure on that mate? People can live luxuriously with that kind of income
Tax..
8k a month mortgage,
and 3 boys in Dulwich College..

Went backwards for a year. Happy in Melbourne now.

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Old 24th Aug 2019, 23:57
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So if it is that expensive to live there, how do regular people make it there?
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Old 25th Aug 2019, 01:42
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Donít have 3 kids, public school, no condos with pool. Makes you wonder whoíd move half way across the world for this though.

I think the basic problem is that we tend to look at what USED to be great places for expats with the same expectations. Thing is Singapore and HK are not Britain anymore, this world is very different from our parentsí.

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Old 25th Aug 2019, 06:17
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Singapore isn't a hardship posting anymore, and the days of the extravagant expat packages are largely over, unless you're a high level banker.

The way to make it work is to live like a local, government schools are fine and S$4000 a month gets a nice condo outside the prime areas, forget a car they're the most expensive in the world, public transport and ride sharing is the way to go.

Countries in the middle East need to offer the expat deal or no one would go there.
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Old 25th Aug 2019, 16:31
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So if it is that expensive to live there, how do regular people make it there?
you need to adjust to it. Decrease your expectations and make some sacrifice. Itís not bad as people describe here. You can live a decent life on a pilot salary here.
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Old 26th Aug 2019, 01:15
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you need to adjust to it. Decrease your expectations and make some sacrifice. Itís not bad as people describe here. You can live a decent life on a pilot salary here.

I think the point of leaving home is to find a BETTER higher paying job, with more money left in the bank. Otherwise why leave friends, family, and your own countries medical/retirement security etc.. Singapore and Hong Kong used to provide. It still exists in some cases, but rarely for new residents.

I am a HUGE Singapore fan, but I left the Scoot 2 Day Interview in the first 10 minutes after it became clear that it wasn't financially viable.
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Old 26th Aug 2019, 02:35
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Originally Posted by FreemaninHK View Post
I think the point of leaving home is to find a BETTER higher paying job, with more money left in the bank. Otherwise why leave friends, family, and your own countries medical/retirement security etc.. Singapore and Hong Kong used to provide. It still exists in some cases, but rarely for new residents.

I am a HUGE Singapore fan, but I left the Scoot 2 Day Interview in the first 10 minutes after it became clear that it wasn't financially viable.
Then one day they work out life's real priorities.
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Old 26th Aug 2019, 04:45
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I think the point of leaving home is to find a BETTER higher paying job, with more money left in the bank. Otherwise why leave friends, family, and your own countries medical/retirement security etc.. Singapore and Hong Kong used to provide. It still exists in some cases, but rarely for new residents.

I am a HUGE Singapore fan, but I left the Scoot 2 Day Interview in the first 10 minutes after it became clear that it wasn't financially viable.
I totally understand your point but not everyone leave home for money. Some back home are unemployed, not treated well, looking to move into another equipment or even for safety reasons. At one point we all have to sacrifice something to gain something.

If anyone wants to save lots of money then Singapore is not for you. If you want a safe plus dynamic atmosphere then yes.
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Old 26th Aug 2019, 05:47
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Originally Posted by FreemaninHK View Post
I think the point of leaving home is to find a BETTER higher paying job, with more money left in the bank. Otherwise why leave friends, family, and your own countries medical/retirement security etc.. Singapore and Hong Kong used to provide. It still exists in some cases, but rarely for new residents.

I am a HUGE Singapore fan, but I left the Scoot 2 Day Interview in the first 10 minutes after it became clear that it wasn't financially viable.
Does your user name show you in HKG over SIN?

If so how does your airline of choice allow you to save with Honky living expenses?

Or are you a B scale CX ...
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Old 26th Aug 2019, 11:55
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The best years to do Singapore would have been back when SQ was offering expat terms. Retire from BA at 55 years old as a B744 Captain, rent out the house in the UK and send the money along with the pension income to a competent financial manager in the Channel Islands/Isle of Man. Come to Singapore for 5 years on the full package and enjoy the expat lifestyle while stashing away the surplus income. Retire at 60 and return to home country well cashed up and enjoy life.
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Old 27th Aug 2019, 05:34
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No Singapore based airline offers an expat package anymore, all contracts are on local terms.

You will have to live a lifestyle similar to a local. A Captain’s salary is already way above the average what the locals are getting.

Cars are way too expensive, but given the public transport setup here, you can easily get by without one.

Housing is expensive too, but we don’t have the amount of land like most of where you guys come from. The general population live in apartments and people get by just fine.

If you’re looking for a big house, a car and still be able to put your kids through international schools, I’m afraid you might have to look elsewhere, if you can find any place that can offer you these and yet enjoy what Singapore offers - safety, corruption free society etc.


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Old 27th Aug 2019, 05:48
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Does your user name show you in HKG over SIN?

If so how does your airline of choice allow you to save with Honky living expenses?

Or are you a B scale CX ...
Was on Expat terms with CX... Now flying corporate on even better terms.

Kids are not longer in school. (But Cathay did pay for most of it for us)
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Old 27th Aug 2019, 05:50
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The best years to do Singapore would have been back when SQ was offering expat terms. Retire from BA at 55 years old as a B744 Captain, rent out the house in the UK and send the money along with the pension income to a competent financial manager in the Channel Islands/Isle of Man. Come to Singapore for 5 years on the full package and enjoy the expat lifestyle while stashing away the surplus income. Retire at 60 and return to home country well cashed up and enjoy life.

That is exactly what brought me. Family friend, retired B747 skipper joined SQ; came back cashed up with stories of adventure.
My time at CX wasn't as good as his, but it was ok do the expat benefits. Anyone joining now is in for a world of financial pain.
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Old 27th Aug 2019, 07:31
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Was on Expat terms with CX... Now flying corporate on even better terms.

Kids are not longer in school. (But Cathay did pay for most of it for us)
Fantastic! Yep the corporate world can be kind.....

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Old 27th Aug 2019, 12:12
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I only came across on ex BA 55er who was Singapore based. All the rest were London based after their initial 6 months in Singapore. This kind of deal no longer around of course
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Old 27th Aug 2019, 15:06
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The good old days when you could retire at 55 on a full pension with less than 20 000 hours in your logbook and easily take a contract job with Gulf Air or Air Lanka on the L1011, or SQ on the B747 for 5-10 years until it was time to tend the garden in your country cottage. Expat terms were the way to go as you didn't need to worry about the upgrade and were only looking at possibly one renewal which wouldn't be a disaster if you didn't get it.

As you say, no longer around anymore.
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Old 27th Aug 2019, 16:24
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Is your wife Singaporean or Asian ? If yes I could understand the attraction. It is a pleasant place to visit, a form of soft Asia but it is very small, humid
very competitive in the jobs market and rather boring (only my personal opinion)
Why not take 2 mts off every Winter and move to a warmer environment which is affordable or emigrate to OZ like most young Singaporeans want to.
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 15:09
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What is the 787 DEC Salary please?
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Old 15th Sep 2019, 02:03
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the right question is "how many hours have the 787 pilots been averaging"....you will then get your answer
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