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Jet grounds two pilots for Bangkok tail strike

Old 23rd Jan 2018, 19:41
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Jet grounds two pilots for Bangkok tail strike

More bad publicity for Jet....

NEW DELHI: Jet Airways has grounded two pilots for a "tail strike" in Thailand last week. The incident reportedly happened when the airline's Boeing 737 was taking off from Bangkok for Delhi with over 160 people on board.

During take off, the plane's rear section of fuselage (main body of aircraft) hit the runway.

Confirming this, a Jet spokesman said: "Jet flight 9W 65 of January 19, 2018, from Bangkok to Delhi experienced a tailstrike. The Boeing 737-800 with eight crew and 155 guests, landed safely at Delhi. The aircraft was inspected and cleared for operations by the Jet Airways' engineering and safety team." "The airline has reported the event to the regulatory authorities and is also investigating the matter. As a standard practice, the crew of the flight have been placed off active duty to assist with the investigations. At Jet Airways, safety of our guests and crew is of paramount importance," he added.

Full story: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/62612623.cms
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Old 23rd Jan 2018, 21:51
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This will be an interesting one - if the crew were aware of the strike during takeoff and continued to Delhi (not at 10,000 feet I assume ) will not be a good look for the crew.

A "scrape" that wasn't felt during the take off another matter.
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Old 26th Jan 2018, 03:09
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How can you have a tail strike on take off? Are these guys even pilots :/
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Old 26th Jan 2018, 14:04
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Main thing ó know your liftoff attitude for current flaps and itís 99 percent of being safe!
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Old 26th Jan 2018, 15:47
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How can you have a tail strike on take off? Are these guys even pilots :/
Incorrect calculation of take off performance resulting in incorrect V1/Vr speeds - perhaps? Been done before and no doubt will happen again. Wrong weights have been known to be entered into the FMC.

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Old 27th Jan 2018, 00:52
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Garbage in = Garbage out.

When using computers you need to have a good idea what the information spits out should be. This comes with experience on type.

You need an independent source for information to compare what the computer/FMS comes up with. Never take one source (FMS) as gospel. An extra minute or so checking may save a life time of regret, or worse.
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Old 3rd Feb 2018, 08:06
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Tail strikes happen.

• Too early or too late rotation
• Too fast or too slow rotation
• Excessive rotation rate
• Excessive initial pitch attitude
• Rotation at incorrect Vr for the weight and flap setting

Even putting a non pilot passenger in the seat and giving effects of controls. (not this operator, one much closer to EASA land).

The crew don't always know that it has happened, there is 13" and 1.5 degrees between a normal Flaps 1 takeoff and touch. Some aircraft have a sensor to indicate contact has occurred, and will annunciate that in the cockpit, others only show up post flight.

More tail strikes occur on landings than takeoffs.
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Old 3rd Feb 2018, 16:42
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Sorry, but...

A tail strike is easily noted by the crew/pax seated at the aft of the aircraft and surely may be reported to the pilots.
After such an event a mandatory turn back is the safest course of action, followed by the due inspection.
Am I missing something here?
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Old 4th Feb 2018, 06:29
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Do we know the extent of contact with runway surface?

It might just have been the wear shoe that came in contact. the article mentions nothing of that sort.

It is certainly not necessary that the crew or passengers would've heard anything. Recall the QR 777 at MIA.
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