This must be the lowest paid basic salary pilot job..
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This must be the lowest paid basic salary pilot job..
CEBU LOOKING NTR A320 PILOTS..
Non-type rated A320 Captains and First Officers on behalf of Cebu Pacific Airlines.
Available screening dates ongoing.
Basic Monthly Salary:
Captain: PhP 123,500 (2,380usd) (depending on flying time on aircraft type and seat)
First Officer: PhP 80,000 (1542usd) (depending on flying time on aircraft type and seat)
***Thirteenth (13th) month pay for every completed calendar year**
Productivity pay:
Captain: PhP 3,370 per hour (Maximum of 1,000 hours per year and no more than 100 hours per month.)
First Officer: PhP 2,240 per hour (Maximum of 1,000 hours per year and no more than 100 hours per month.)
Bases: Manila, Philippines
Rotation: Commuting roster 6/2.
Do you hold the following minimum requirements?
Non-Type Rated Captains
Minimum of 3,500 hours total time
Minimum of 1000 PIC hours on jet aircraft or 2000 PIC hours (multi-pilot turbo-jet airplane with MTOW of 50 tons)
Valid ATPL
Valid Class 1 Medical
English Proficiency Level 04
No History of Incidents or Accidents
Non-Type Rated First Officers
Minimum 1,500 hours flying experience, in which 500 hours on jet aircraft
Valid ATPL
Valid Class 1 Medical
English Proficiency Level 04
No History of Incidents or Accidents
Benefits include:
Medical Insurance coverage and Christmas Bonus
Annual Shopping Benefits
Vacation Leave and Sick Leave
Access to staff travel for employee and dependents on Cebu’s network.
A320 Type Rating.
Non-type rated A320 Captains and First Officers on behalf of Cebu Pacific Airlines.
Available screening dates ongoing.
Basic Monthly Salary:
Captain: PhP 123,500 (2,380usd) (depending on flying time on aircraft type and seat)
First Officer: PhP 80,000 (1542usd) (depending on flying time on aircraft type and seat)
***Thirteenth (13th) month pay for every completed calendar year**
Productivity pay:
Captain: PhP 3,370 per hour (Maximum of 1,000 hours per year and no more than 100 hours per month.)
First Officer: PhP 2,240 per hour (Maximum of 1,000 hours per year and no more than 100 hours per month.)
Bases: Manila, Philippines
Rotation: Commuting roster 6/2.
Do you hold the following minimum requirements?
Non-Type Rated Captains
Minimum of 3,500 hours total time
Minimum of 1000 PIC hours on jet aircraft or 2000 PIC hours (multi-pilot turbo-jet airplane with MTOW of 50 tons)
Valid ATPL
Valid Class 1 Medical
English Proficiency Level 04
No History of Incidents or Accidents
Non-Type Rated First Officers
Minimum 1,500 hours flying experience, in which 500 hours on jet aircraft
Valid ATPL
Valid Class 1 Medical
English Proficiency Level 04
No History of Incidents or Accidents
Benefits include:
Medical Insurance coverage and Christmas Bonus
Annual Shopping Benefits
Vacation Leave and Sick Leave
Access to staff travel for employee and dependents on Cebu’s network.
A320 Type Rating.
At 60hrs/month for $4,200 that’s more then I made as an FO flying 73’s for a scumbag operator in the USA buddy......
And it is what it is,don’t like the pay don’t take the job.
I bailed as soon as I qualified for the next step.
And it is what it is,don’t like the pay don’t take the job.
I bailed as soon as I qualified for the next step.
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Not blaming anyone but here lies the issue of willing takers. B2N2 said it, you took the bait, despite the low pay, whether or not you moved on as quickly as you could.
It would be nice if there's no taker on this but I wont hold my breath on this one.
It would be nice if there's no taker on this but I wont hold my breath on this one.
I believe Susi Air in Indonesia pay Expats about $800 USD/month for entry level position, and after that the salary goes to $1,200/month (these might be old numbers). I stumbled across an interesting BBC series on YouTube about flying for this company. It follows the recruiting pathway for the new recruits as they qualify for a co-pilot position on a Cessna Caravan. From there they can move up to single pilot on a Porter. They get many Expats from the UK with 200-ish hours and a basic license just looking to get some hours together so they can aim for an airline job.
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There will never be a shortage of inexperienced FO’s.
We should consider ourselves lucky if low paid jobs were the only problem in aviation.
Susi Air provides housing and meals by the way and in certain countries you can still live like a king with $1000 to spend each month.
Something the local population wouldn’t have in a year.
Can’t really pay off a loan with those kinds of wages but a too expensive loan for a too expensive course back in Europe is not really your employers problem is it?
Yes I like playing devils advocate at times but entitlement is a disease.
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Consider other factors in this "offer". If you take it, you are responsible to pay for your medical, your work permit and all associated cost that comes with the license conversion. Another tidbit they won't tell you is you won't be paid while in training or while you get your initial operating experience on the line, except for a tiny "training allowance" which is only P20,000/month. And with the scheduling this could take 6 plus months.
So with the initial outlay of cash by the pilot (figure about $4k US) and only earning about $400 US a month for the first 6 months (that's if they actually pay you on time, which is rare) a prospective pilot is in negative before he ever realizes and productivity pay.
And don't forget the training bond. Yep, the new pilot will sign a training bond for three years (or more) for about 10 times more than the training received.
So with the initial outlay of cash by the pilot (figure about $4k US) and only earning about $400 US a month for the first 6 months (that's if they actually pay you on time, which is rare) a prospective pilot is in negative before he ever realizes and productivity pay.
And don't forget the training bond. Yep, the new pilot will sign a training bond for three years (or more) for about 10 times more than the training received.
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And what would those "secondary benefits" be at CP that would make the low pay worth it? And don't forget the awful scheduling, the abysmal training and overall disrespect of the company towards employees.
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IT depends on what you want to "procure" each month...
Standard living is fine at that rate, more than fine....
Even £500 is perfect for a good life...I can survive on £200 with a little care.
Standard living is fine at that rate, more than fine....
Even £500 is perfect for a good life...I can survive on £200 with a little care.
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CAE on their website has an A330 First Officer job listing with Cebu Pacific offering:
Base: Manila
Monthly Salary: USD 8,000 per month
Screening Plan: On-going
Standard roster of 6 weeks on/2 weeks off
Off Duty Days: 8 days off per month
Accommodation USD 1,500 accommodation allowance provided per month
Has anybody any experience with CAE? Are they a reliable company to work with?
Are any pilots on this contract with Cebu Pacific right now?
Base: Manila
Monthly Salary: USD 8,000 per month
Screening Plan: On-going
Standard roster of 6 weeks on/2 weeks off
Off Duty Days: 8 days off per month
Accommodation USD 1,500 accommodation allowance provided per month
Has anybody any experience with CAE? Are they a reliable company to work with?
Are any pilots on this contract with Cebu Pacific right now?