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Old 7th Jul 2002, 10:43
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Talking Lee

Cheers!!!!!!!
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Old 9th Jul 2002, 13:56
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There is a rumour in the air that SQ is about to announce its bonus to the staff. So no one wants to rock the boat, in this example seat would be more appropriate.
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Recall years ago, my crew and I were deadheading HKG-HNL, and alloted First Class seats (no business class then). Then three pax showed up and wanted F/C seats at the last minute. They were told, sorry come back tomorrow....hmmm, guess times have changed, just a tad.
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Lee:

What bonus are you talking about? There is no bonus this year.
Are you merely parroting senseless rumours?
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Old 11th Jul 2002, 11:34
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Lithgow,

Not spreading any rumours about bonus. We were told not to expect any bonus this year. But just wanted to say that there were some SQ personnel (cabin crew mainly) saying something about bonus. Lately, this rumour had died down.

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Thumbs down Applies only to B777

This issue applies particularly to the B777 fleet where some aircraft are two class configuration ~ Raffles (Club/Business) and Economy.

With the introduction of the "Skybeds", means less seats.

Our airline is run by a bunch of ex airforce goons who have come to the end of the road in their dismal military careers, with no where else to go.

Major Goondoo Bey is the Technical SVP, dubbed to replace Dr. Chong. The DFO (Bloody Goondoo) Rubber Johnny used to be his sidekick/stooge back in the days of the airforce, who does not know the difference between a Boeing and an Airbus.

So who says we're free of cronyism and nepotism? The DFO does not know his a*se from his elbow. ALPA-S can't do squat about this as they will be court marshalled!
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>>Major Goondoo Bey is the Technical SVP, dubbed to replace Dr. Chong. The DFO (Bloody Goondoo) Rubber Johnny used to be his sidekick/stooge back in the days of the airforce, who does not know the difference between a Boeing and an Airbus.

>>So who says we're free of cronyism and nepotism? The DFO does not know his a*se from his elbow. ALPA-S can't do squat about this as they will be court marshalled!

You show that you also know as much about being court martialed (not marshalled), who can / cannot face a court martial. And where is YOUR elbow? Stuck some where up an orifice?
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Old 18th Jul 2002, 08:15
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Senso

This also applies to 744s too.
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Old 18th Jul 2002, 20:29
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Wink Stand corrected

Lithgow, standing corrected, I'm used to being Marshalled... Not a military man, never been one. Court Martialed o.k. My elbows are in the office.
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Sharing Room and bed, I'll take two!

Someone here suggested that we share rooms with the cabin crew...

I'll be happy to share my bed and room with two Trolly Dollies!!!!After of course giving my Captain first pick.

Think about it SQ, we're saving you money!


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Old 25th Jul 2002, 14:06
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Senso: Even the stewards?
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Old 25th Jul 2002, 14:49
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I once had a call (in the middle of the night) from a Stewardess complaining that her room was too cold. I asked her if she wanted to change rooms, I'll go down to the hotel reception and make the change for her.

Guess what she said?

"Captain Lee ..........


Well guys and gals at SQ expect a big bonus this year, I'm helping SQ save money!
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Old 25th Jul 2002, 18:08
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She said...

Captain Lee Sir!

1. She said "you may come down and warm me up"

2. She said "stay where you are, I'll come up to you"

3. She said "you're so hot sir, I need you now"

4. She said "may I trouble you for the F/O's room number?"

5. She said "the F/O's still single and unattached, he's hot"

6. She said "you already have your hands full sir, let me have your F/O!"

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Old 25th Jul 2002, 18:11
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No, the stewards are exclusively for the cabin chiefs!

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Old 14th Aug 2002, 12:52
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So the payback time has come for Alpa-S or is it just showtime?
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Old 15th Aug 2002, 04:41
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Air froce?????

I was most amused to find this in the STRAIGHT TIMES... ALPA-S show us what you are really made of. Time to put our money where your mouth is, and I don't mean the booze that is bought to pacify us...

So what about the discounts with Singtel, its ONLY Singtel and we save more paying full rate with Starhub, so whats the BIG deal? Just because we get a good pay packet means we can be taken advantage of? ... And told to rest in Economy?

What do AA, BA, AI, QF, JA guys get?

Mr. Bey's and Rubber Johnny ego has taken up the space. The seeds have been sown... Major General! Same crap different airline!

According to this we're the bad guys for not wanting to rest in economy boo-hoo.... The airforce is going to save the day!!! Hoo Ray Singapore!!! It started at the Zoo, now the virus has moved onto the airline!


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I REFER to the report, 'SIA pilots threaten to take industrial action' (ST, Aug 14).

That they are considering action over not being allowed to take rests in business class shows how indispensable they think they are.

But are they really that indispensable, and do all the pilots feel that the new arrangement is a breach of a collective agreement?

This is not the first time SIA pilots have caused problems.

Years ago, when the late Mr Ong Teng Cheong was NTUC's Secretary-General, Singapore Airlines was in the news because of a labour dispute.

I am sure the present dispute can be sorted out without any industrial action.

I am confident Republic of Singapore Air Force pilots can come to the rescue and fly SIA's planes if the situation deteriorates and some pilots have to be shown the door.


S. RAMAMIRTHAM
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Old 16th Aug 2002, 01:41
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This idiotic letter is all part of the grand scheme of things.

The timing is not accidental. The usual plot for such scenarios (ie looming industrial action) is:

A few simpletons will write to the Straits Times, painting SQ pilots as greedy and unreasonable, and that they can be replaced at a moments notice.

Followed by a well timed and strangely coincidental news release (in this case) regarding the reasons why the SQ006 pilots were sacked.

Add some commentary from suitable ministers to further rally public sentiment.

Add some talk from Raymund Ng as to how he tried to be reasonable, with recent information about circulars dated Aug 13 (so recent that no one with opposing views has a chance to state their case).

And finally rely on the gag order in our employment letter as to not talk to the media blahblahblah.

You can see how the Gohmen plays the game.

Yes, ALPA-S, this will make or break you bunch. Unfortunately since you have established a less than reliable image all by yourselves at previous meetings, we know what to expect.
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Old 18th Aug 2002, 02:09
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That writer, S Ramamirtham who wrote to The Straits Times Forum page, that the RSAF pilots can come to the rescue of SQ at a moments notice is all cock and bull.

Believe me, in the mid to late 1980s there was a time when SQ thought of this emergency and got RSAF pilots to learn to fly 747s and 737s and 757s at the SIM and almost 99% of them crashed on take-off or landing!

Anyone remembers this hilarious situation? My crew had a good laugh that day when one clown (a RSAF fighter pilot) thought he could fly the 747 single-handedly like a fighter plane and asked why the need for a Flight Engineer. He and his colleaue crashed the 747 within secs of takeoff!

So, thinking that the RSAF pilots can take over all the flights is what the Singapore expression says taking cock like sing song.
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Old 18th Aug 2002, 10:04
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Have there been any letters to the ST explaining what a load of rubbish S. Ramamirtham is talking? Certainly hope so, also hope the ST have the courage to print them.
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Old 20th Aug 2002, 14:52
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Question Taxi at the pace of a brisk walk?

Just wondering guys... As part of work to rule, would taxiing at the pace of a brisk walk be part of that? I understand Cathay guys did that some time ago. I really don't suppose we can pull it off anywhere else but Changi eh?
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