South Asia and the Far East News and views on the fast growing and changing aviation scene on the planet.

China Eastern Airlines

Old 24th Sep 2015, 22:54
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: north
Posts: 14
China Eastern Airlines

Hi fellow aviators,

Any info about China Eastern Airlines 777 DEC commuting contract ? Thanks in advance
flycaptain is offline  
Old 7th Oct 2015, 23:41
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 41
Commuting

I started with CEA on the 330 and from our conversations with management I know they are very keen to get experienced 777 pilots. Thus far, there are no bases but that may change in the not too distant future. Commuting is as per the contract which I understand is 20 ON, 3 Commuting days and 10 OFF at home. Commuting is Y positive with space available upgrade to J - disappointing yes but tolerable as it is likely you will only sit in Y a couple times per year.
CEA330Driver is offline  
Old 12th Oct 2015, 16:27
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: anywhere but home
Posts: 1
CEA330,
Did you go through an agency? Would you recommend anyone for China Eastern?
king of the load is offline  
Old 12th Oct 2015, 22:29
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: USA
Age: 46
Posts: 31
CEA is exchanging some pilots with SF Airlines. Anyone knows why ?
SkullFlyer is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2015, 22:12
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 41
CEA Broker

Hi would recommend using GABS for a few key reasons:
(1) they are honest
(2) proactive
(3) have developed a good relationship with the company

There contact details:
Wally Rutledge
Managing Director
Globally Aware Business Solutions Pty Ltd (GABS)
innovation and expertise in commercial, intercultural, resourcing & training
Mob: +61 423 845 349
Skype: wally.rutledge
Wechat: Wally-Rutledge
BBM: 7f5fbb93
Globally Aware Business Solutions > Home
CEA330Driver is offline  
Old 23rd Oct 2015, 00:42
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: canada
Posts: 126
GABS and wally are top shelf - wish Id met him before signing with my current agency.

I make no financial gain by recommending him at all but feel that the process of jointing a Chinese carrier is stressful enough you need an open and honest recruiter.
WJAPilot is offline  
Old 23rd Oct 2015, 10:38
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: australia
Posts: 786
Wally Rutledge - now there's a blast from the past for moi!

Years ago was part of a contract organisation in Australasia, certainly felt he was about as honest as you could get in the contract industry....or as far as how he was allowed to be.
galdian is offline  
Old 22nd Dec 2016, 01:14
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Over the Pacific mostly
Posts: 1,040
Any CEA DEC 777 folks that wouldn't mind posting an update on their experience with this particular contract.......!

Thank you.
The Dominican is offline  
Old 23rd Dec 2016, 15:03
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: East of the Sun & West of the Moon
Posts: 286
I can't tell you anything specifically about the B777 contract, but I can say that Wally is the guy to contact and he will put you in touch with some of the guys working that contract.

I've now had 3 years experience working with Wally & GABS, and as others above have mentioned, they are the the exception in this business; helpful, forthright, and willing to put in the time to make a contract work for both parties.

Rgds,

ELAC
ELAC is offline  
Old 28th Dec 2016, 04:38
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: end of earth
Posts: 33
Glad to hear about an honest contract company. But GABS doesn't publish the compensation like others. Are the remuneration packages in China pretty uniform with the contract companies? Thanks in advance.
E165 is offline  
Old 28th Dec 2016, 14:26
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: CHN
Posts: 16
I'm a pilot on 330 in CEA of Shanghai base. Our company really needs a lot of experienced CPTs on type. Days ago, the management from foreign pilots department talked with me to see how foreign pilots consider CEA(I don't know why he talked with me, maybe I had the experience of working in foreign airlines before). To be honest, we do not provide the best salary of the country, but we have long haul flights which may reach your home country and when you are traveling with staff ticket, the on-duty CPT will upgrade you if there are vacancies.
Regarding to the broker, most of them do not have future service for the staying in China, and this is criticized by many CPTs. I could recommend to the company and help the foreign departments to do some service if you are interested in applying my company. Now they are looking for more CPTs on B737 and A320.
phoenixtv is offline  
Old 28th Dec 2016, 17:48
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: East of the Sun & West of the Moon
Posts: 286
@E165:

To my knowledge there is little, if any, difference in dollars between agencies once you add up the components of the compensation packages. In the case of GABS I'm sure that the numbers will be supplied if you email them.

ELAC
ELAC is offline  
Old 5th Jan 2017, 17:37
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Brazil
Posts: 9
Would someone know what's the experience requirements for DEC at the CEA?
Boeingboy773 is offline  
Old 6th Jan 2017, 00:58
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Aussie and US
Posts: 43
From a post on flight international (for DEC B777)

Requirements:
1. Hold current B777 type rating
2. Have logged at least 3000 total PIC hours and 1500 PIC hours on type
3. Last flight on type within 12 months
4. Valid Class 1 Medical Certificate
5. ICAO level 4 or above
6. No accidents or incidents reported
7. Age 55 or below

If you're an experienced FO then you'd need to meet the requirements of CCAR121 upgrading on large aircraft, plus have substantial experience on type.
LH777 is offline  
Old 8th Jan 2017, 07:20
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: UAE
Age: 49
Posts: 6
Hi there,

I am trying to find any info for DEC on A330, but it looks like CEA is hot hiring at the moment. Or am I missing an agency that does that now?
Anyone able to help with any info?

Thanks!

loco
loco330 is offline  
Old 26th Jan 2017, 15:36
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 1
CEA Hiring process and time frames

Hi CEA guys

Anybody recently been through the NTR B777 FO Hiring process??

My agency (Oh I see) just sent off all my application docs.

Any idea of the interview process from here on will be highly appreciated.
Especially the time frame (if successful) from application to start date. $

Do they provide tickets hotel,etc, been burned before 😳
2ATP is offline  
Old 28th Jan 2017, 10:48
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: end of earth
Posts: 33
Thanks ELAC. Sorry for the late post.
E165 is offline  
Old 29th Jan 2017, 01:05
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Mt Druitt
Posts: 168
Direct Hire

They need to direct Hire.

Giving up weeks of time to 'pass' an interview at your own cost, when basically you're paying to get a job doing examinations, sims and so to get a licence.

They need experience, then they need to pay for it all.
snoop doggy dog is offline  
Old 29th Jan 2017, 03:22
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: East of the Sun & West of the Moon
Posts: 286
Originally Posted by snoop doggy dog View Post
They need to direct Hire.

Giving up weeks of time to 'pass' an interview at your own cost, when basically you're paying to get a job doing examinations, sims and so to get a licence.

They need experience, then they need to pay for it all.
I'm guessing you haven't yet been around the block in the expat world. How things are and how things ought (perhaps) to be are two different things.

FWIW, the process for my group at CES was the most respectful I've ever encountered. Although it took time, a senior VP of the Flt Ops dept. actually came to us, arranged and paid for screening sims at our home base in order to hire us. And, he showed genuine interest in who we were and what we could bring to the operation.

There's no perfect expat carrier, but these guys get full marks for being genuine, honest and flexible.

Rgds,

ELAC
ELAC is offline  
Old 30th Jan 2017, 10:10
  #20 (permalink)  
SW1
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Victoria
Posts: 442
anyone know any details about the SFO jobs- "upgrade after a while" with Tempo aviation?

Is this really happening with China Eastern on the 330?

Thanks
SW1 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.