Korean Air returns to gate to offload Flight Attendant
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Apparently an arrest warrant for Ms Cho has been approved today. (Also reported by NHK World TV)
Heather Cho Arrested
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The extent to which Korean Air top management tried to cover up the incident and attempted to intimidate the cabin crew from giving the true account has certainly backfired.
Even the Korean government officials supposedly entrusted with investigations have been implicated in trying to help the ogress escape justice.
Four Officials To Be Punished For Leaking Information In Cho Hyun-Ah Nut Rage Probe
I agree with Chuck that toufupok called it right on this one. I am also sure the flight operations chiefs would have tried to get the skipper to take the blame as the " sole decider " in deciding to offload the chief purser.
Even the Korean government officials supposedly entrusted with investigations have been implicated in trying to help the ogress escape justice.
Four Officials To Be Punished For Leaking Information In Cho Hyun-Ah Nut Rage Probe
I agree with Chuck that toufupok called it right on this one. I am also sure the flight operations chiefs would have tried to get the skipper to take the blame as the " sole decider " in deciding to offload the chief purser.
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Well bean curd, perhaps you should rewrite the flying manuals about how to fly. To keep your job........ instead of commanding an aircraft. I'm sure, there will always be some who fly around with one hand covering their arse, and the other on the yoke.
Yes, sometimes the end does justify the means, as in this case, I agree the eventual outcome did.
However, strong, articulate reasoning, at most times, will come through as opposed to fearful capitulation of ones authority when facing a bully.
Commanding an aircraft requires a huge amount of self belief and confidence. And it doesn't matter with which company.
I wonder how this capt would come through in a thunderstorm one night, at a mountainous airfield, with one engine out, a non-precision approach, and a F/O named Pedro. Perhaps Cho would be there to tell him to return to the gate.
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Well bean curd, perhaps you should rewrite the flying manuals about how to fly. To keep your job........ instead of commanding an aircraft. I'm sure, there will always be some who fly around with one hand covering their arse, and the other on the yoke.
Yes, sometimes the end does justify the means, as in this case, I agree the eventual outcome did.
However, strong, articulate reasoning, at most times, will come through as opposed to fearful capitulation of ones authority when facing a bully.
Commanding an aircraft requires a huge amount of self belief and confidence. And it doesn't matter with which company.
I wonder how this capt would come through in a thunderstorm one night, at a mountainous airfield, with one engine out, a non-precision approach, and a F/O named Pedro. Perhaps Cho would be there to tell him to return to the gate.
Well in Japan we have heard a lot of gaijin pilots making such bombastic " self belief " hot air in crew lounges and bar rooms...but in most cases when shtf, they are just as meek or even more pathetically " cojoneless " as the locals. This is a fact and I have seen it all!
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On the contary High Speed Aluminum, this incident simply shows that in thirty years the safety culture of KAL has not improved one iota, in fact it seems to have become even worse!
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Saying the safety culture is worse than it has been for the last 30 years at KAL based on the actions of a reckless entitled VP (unless you know other safety issues, please divulge) is about as ill informed and ignorant a statement as you can make.
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After moving to work in the sandpit and the Orient, I've come to learn many things. One is about Pprune, the others are crew lounge hot air and bar room lunacy!
My verdict on this :
Taufu lives in the real world and one who I will not hesitate to fly with.
rdr and his/her ilk belongs to the pubs and crew lounges spinning endless tales of bravado and hogwash. The show of the party, but people whom I have learnt to steer clear off like the politicos that walk our corridors of infamy.
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Well bean curd, perhaps you should rewrite the flying manuals about how to fly. To keep your job........ instead of commanding an aircraft. I'm sure, there will always be some who fly around with one hand covering their arse, and the other on the yoke.
Yes, sometimes the end does justify the means, as in this case, I agree the eventual outcome did.
However, strong, articulate reasoning, at most times, will come through as opposed to fearful capitulation of ones authority when facing a bully.
Commanding an aircraft requires a huge amount of self belief and confidence. And it doesn't matter with which company.
I wonder how this capt would come through in a thunderstorm one night, at a mountainous airfield, with one engine out, a non-precision approach, and a F/O named Pedro. Perhaps Cho would be there to tell him to return to the gate.
Wow, what a sucker punch! Really good for the pubs and bar rooms
Well in Japan we have heard a lot of gaijin pilots making such bombastic " self belief " hot air in crew lounges and bar rooms...but in most cases when shtf, they are just as meek or even more pathetically " cojoneless " as the locals. This is a fact and I have seen it all!
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Well bean curd, perhaps you should rewrite the flying manuals about how to fly. To keep your job........ instead of commanding an aircraft. I'm sure, there will always be some who fly around with one hand covering their arse, and the other on the yoke.
Yes, sometimes the end does justify the means, as in this case, I agree the eventual outcome did.
However, strong, articulate reasoning, at most times, will come through as opposed to fearful capitulation of ones authority when facing a bully.
Commanding an aircraft requires a huge amount of self belief and confidence. And it doesn't matter with which company.
I wonder how this capt would come through in a thunderstorm one night, at a mountainous airfield, with one engine out, a non-precision approach, and a F/O named Pedro. Perhaps Cho would be there to tell him to return to the gate.
Wow, what a sucker punch! Really good for the pubs and bar rooms
Well in Japan we have heard a lot of gaijin pilots making such bombastic " self belief " hot air in crew lounges and bar rooms...but in most cases when shtf, they are just as meek or even more pathetically " cojoneless " as the locals. This is a fact and I have seen it all!
Taufu lives in the real world and one who I will not hesitate to fly with.
rdr and his/her ilk belongs to the pubs and crew lounges spinning endless tales of bravado and hogwash. The show of the party, but people whom I have learnt to steer clear off like the politicos that walk our corridors of infamy.
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I am not surprised one bit about this whole story, besides had it happened in Seoul we' d know nothing about it.
What I really am surprised about is still people are applying or thinking about applying for a Korean company, the reason is beyond me.
What I really am surprised about is still people are applying or thinking about applying for a Korean company, the reason is beyond me.
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It appears that many powerful people in Korea have been prosecuted for far worse infractions, and suitably sentenced in the past.
Then, comes the commuting of their punishment, and none have actually served their time.
This time, it looks like this one is going to stick, and, there may be some fundamental changes to Korean society and the airline.
Then, comes the commuting of their punishment, and none have actually served their time.
This time, it looks like this one is going to stick, and, there may be some fundamental changes to Korean society and the airline.
