How are things at Lion Air
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How are things at Lion Air
Anyone in the know about job prospects with Lion Air? are they recruiting at the moment?
How are things at the Airline in general? would be interested to here from LA Pilots.
How are things at the Airline in general? would be interested to here from LA Pilots.
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Unstable roster, delayed pay, poor maintenance, lack of spare parts(you fly in the night with 3 of the 4 landing lights out), sh*tty management. Just left the company few weeks ago. Found a better gig(Dont know if its going to be better, but the pay is almost 3 times more, so thats ok) Been used to taking a lot of BS already for 2 and half years now, so I think any other place is going to be better than here. Its a good place to build time, and get experience.
Lots of expats have left or are in the process of leaving. They have hired a lot of local ex-batavia pilots and also ab-initio indonesian candidates, because they know the expat workforce is unreliable and the moment they find better jobs, they are going to leave. Its not the same case with the locals, as they are given a type-rating and bonded with the company for 18years with a huge penalty.
If you have any more questions, PM me.
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Lots of expats have left or are in the process of leaving. They have hired a lot of local ex-batavia pilots and also ab-initio indonesian candidates, because they know the expat workforce is unreliable and the moment they find better jobs, they are going to leave. Its not the same case with the locals, as they are given a type-rating and bonded with the company for 18years with a huge penalty.
If you have any more questions, PM me.
Goodluck
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Turb360 - Thanks for writing back to my question.
I knew from word of mouth that the situation at Lion is not going to be the best, and I was sorry to hear your getting your salary late, that is something that's also happening at my current gig.
My situation is I have been flying the Classics for around 18 months but feel ready to move on to something else, and with Lion having ordered these nice new -900ER it was of interest to me to move up to the NG.
Question is how do you get in to Lion? I have tried e-mailing HR etc but no response other than I am in a pool of candidates and we will let you know. are they actually taking on expats? or is this finished now? they have something like 200 aircraft on order, as I understand it they have just 80 planes right now.
If you go on to the LinkedIn website there are a few ex Lion pilots working for FZ, I also tried there but didn't get the gig, I think it was lack of NG time that stung me.
what is life like in Jakarta? is it safe enough for expats? I am not interested in local attraction's etc, just after a comfortable place to live and close to airport. at the moment all I do is fly and come home, so I am use to that lifestyle.
Also how do you find the Captain's? are there many expat Captain's?
I knew from word of mouth that the situation at Lion is not going to be the best, and I was sorry to hear your getting your salary late, that is something that's also happening at my current gig.
My situation is I have been flying the Classics for around 18 months but feel ready to move on to something else, and with Lion having ordered these nice new -900ER it was of interest to me to move up to the NG.
Question is how do you get in to Lion? I have tried e-mailing HR etc but no response other than I am in a pool of candidates and we will let you know. are they actually taking on expats? or is this finished now? they have something like 200 aircraft on order, as I understand it they have just 80 planes right now.
If you go on to the LinkedIn website there are a few ex Lion pilots working for FZ, I also tried there but didn't get the gig, I think it was lack of NG time that stung me.
what is life like in Jakarta? is it safe enough for expats? I am not interested in local attraction's etc, just after a comfortable place to live and close to airport. at the moment all I do is fly and come home, so I am use to that lifestyle.
Also how do you find the Captain's? are there many expat Captain's?
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Wonder if that "100" counts the one they recently flew into the water?
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I see LFR on the apron in Surabaya sitting next to a Batavia 734 with no engines. What happened to LFR? From the outside, it looks like everything's intact.
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In the future, new pilots at Lion Air might need to pay for a C-Series type rating:
Bombardier?s Larger CSeries Model Draws Lion Air Interest - Bloomberg
Bombardier?s Larger CSeries Model Draws Lion Air Interest - Bloomberg
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Thai Lion
Indonesia’s largest private airline, the Lion Group, is establishing Bangkok, Thailand, as its latest hub through its new subsidiary, Thai Lion Air, to expand to Thai cities and other cities in the region.
The expansion will see the introduction of 50 new aircraft over the next five years to capture the growing aviation market across Asia, despite the parent company’s notorious reputation for flight delays at home.
Thai Lion Air CEO Capt. Darsito Hendro Seputro said the new airline would not only operate Boeing 737-900 Extended Range (ER) planes but also two Boeing 787 Dreamliners for medium- and long-haul routes, such as to Japan and South Korea.
“The expansion to Thailand is important because the market of low-cost carriers is booming here. A lot of tourists and business travelers alike from Asia’s large markets in China and India travel to Thailand,” Darsito said in Bangkok on Thursday.
“We are optimistic that we will stand out amid the highly competitive low-cost carrier sector in this country.”
While declining to disclose the amount of investment the new firm spent on its establishment, he said an airline needed at least 200 million baht (US$6.43 million) in start-up capital.
Darsito also said that Thai Lion Air’s position was crucial to strengthen the group’s network ahead of the 2015 ASEAN Economic Community (AEC), in addition to providing better services to its passengers from Indonesia and Malaysia.
As with Chinese and Indian travelers, many people from Indonesia and Malaysia made frequent trips to Thailand every year, he said.
Thai Lion Air will be able to connect Lion Air and its feeder, Wings Air, which offer flight services across Indonesia, as well as Malindo Airways in Malaysia to its Thai network.
“We will provide better connections for those passengers who usually continue their journeys [from Indonesia and Malaysia] to Thailand with other carriers. The Bangkok connection will make their trips easier,” Darsito said.
He said the airline was one step away from obtaining an Air Operator Certificate from Thailand’s Civil Aviation Directorate.
The new budget carrier, which is expected to commence operations in early December, will serve international routes Bangkok–Jakarta and Bangkok–Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia) with connections to Thailand’s domestic network through its Bangkok–Chiang Mai route.
The airline will provide all its flights twice-a-day from its base at Don Mueang International Airport, which is 15 kilometers from the capital.
Darsito said the airline wanted to connect Bangkok with Guangzhou in China, Hong Kong, New Delhi in India and Singapore, starting next year.
It is currently processing route permits with respective countries.
The airline also aims to cover other key domestic destinations, like Phuket and Hat Yai, from the airport, also starting next year.
Lion Group public relations head Leithen Francis said the group had been developing its human resources and maintenance facilities to meet its future needs.
Lion Technic, a maintenance training organization, currently hires 2,500 engineers, but its workforce is set to increase as the group grows bigger.
“We are also building a heavy maintenance facility in Batam [Riau Islands] with four hangars; the first two hangars will be completed at end of this year and the remaining two by the end of June [2014],” Leithen said.
Thai Lion Air is 49 percent owned by the Lion Group and the remaining 51 percent in the hands of two Thai businessmen, whose names were not disclosed.
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The expansion will see the introduction of 50 new aircraft over the next five years to capture the growing aviation market across Asia, despite the parent company’s notorious reputation for flight delays at home.
Thai Lion Air CEO Capt. Darsito Hendro Seputro said the new airline would not only operate Boeing 737-900 Extended Range (ER) planes but also two Boeing 787 Dreamliners for medium- and long-haul routes, such as to Japan and South Korea.
“The expansion to Thailand is important because the market of low-cost carriers is booming here. A lot of tourists and business travelers alike from Asia’s large markets in China and India travel to Thailand,” Darsito said in Bangkok on Thursday.
“We are optimistic that we will stand out amid the highly competitive low-cost carrier sector in this country.”
While declining to disclose the amount of investment the new firm spent on its establishment, he said an airline needed at least 200 million baht (US$6.43 million) in start-up capital.
Darsito also said that Thai Lion Air’s position was crucial to strengthen the group’s network ahead of the 2015 ASEAN Economic Community (AEC), in addition to providing better services to its passengers from Indonesia and Malaysia.
As with Chinese and Indian travelers, many people from Indonesia and Malaysia made frequent trips to Thailand every year, he said.
Thai Lion Air will be able to connect Lion Air and its feeder, Wings Air, which offer flight services across Indonesia, as well as Malindo Airways in Malaysia to its Thai network.
“We will provide better connections for those passengers who usually continue their journeys [from Indonesia and Malaysia] to Thailand with other carriers. The Bangkok connection will make their trips easier,” Darsito said.
He said the airline was one step away from obtaining an Air Operator Certificate from Thailand’s Civil Aviation Directorate.
The new budget carrier, which is expected to commence operations in early December, will serve international routes Bangkok–Jakarta and Bangkok–Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia) with connections to Thailand’s domestic network through its Bangkok–Chiang Mai route.
The airline will provide all its flights twice-a-day from its base at Don Mueang International Airport, which is 15 kilometers from the capital.
Darsito said the airline wanted to connect Bangkok with Guangzhou in China, Hong Kong, New Delhi in India and Singapore, starting next year.
It is currently processing route permits with respective countries.
The airline also aims to cover other key domestic destinations, like Phuket and Hat Yai, from the airport, also starting next year.
Lion Group public relations head Leithen Francis said the group had been developing its human resources and maintenance facilities to meet its future needs.
Lion Technic, a maintenance training organization, currently hires 2,500 engineers, but its workforce is set to increase as the group grows bigger.
“We are also building a heavy maintenance facility in Batam [Riau Islands] with four hangars; the first two hangars will be completed at end of this year and the remaining two by the end of June [2014],” Leithen said.
Thai Lion Air is 49 percent owned by the Lion Group and the remaining 51 percent in the hands of two Thai businessmen, whose names were not disclosed.
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Record order for Lion Air.
Well I think the CEO is taking a very pragmatic approach to SMS. Accept the fact that your airline seems to be very forgetful and lose aircraft - so order in anticipation.
Regards
Exeng
Well I think the CEO is taking a very pragmatic approach to SMS. Accept the fact that your airline seems to be very forgetful and lose aircraft - so order in anticipation.
Regards
Exeng
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Thai Lion uncages jets at Don Mueang ceremony Published: 2 Nov 2013 at 00.00Newspaper section: Business Thai Lion Air (TLA) yesterday unveiled its first two brand-new B737-900ER aircraft, staff and other...
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