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Old 13th Apr 2013, 09:23
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Lion Air B737 Bali Crash

Good to see everyone is OK after this accident. Will be interesting to see the cause.

As a side note,are Australian journalists really this stupid? Read this article and find the obvious mistakes from the educated fools.


A PASSENGER plane carrying more than 100 people has crashed into the ocean off the coast of Bali.

The Lion Air craft is believed to have slid off the runway and into water outside Ngurah Rai Airport, near Denpasar late this afternoon.

A large crack was clearly visible on the plane as it sat swamped by water about 6pm (AEST).

It was not immediately known if any Australians were on board or if the broken fuselage was caused mid-air or on impact.

Early reports from Indonesia indicated passengers and crew had survived the crash and been relocated to a nearby hospital.

The plane was travelling from London to Denpasar when it experienced trouble.

Initial reports suggested the plane may have overshot the runway.

The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade said it was not aware of any Australians on board.
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LoL, @ LHR-DPS My guess its from Jakarta or Ujung Padang. Is it a 900 series? DPS has a looong runway, be interesting to see why it couldn't stop. Glad to see all survived. Was only there yesterday afternoon.....
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A Lionair Boeing 737-800, registration PK-LKS performing flight JT-904 from Bandung to Denpasar (Indonesia) with 101 passengers and 7 crew, was on approach to Denpasar's runway 09 at about 15:10L (07:10Z), but came to a stop in the sea short of the runway, the aircraft broke up in two parts. All occupants were evacuated from the aircraft and have been taken to hospitals with minor injuries (scratches).

The airline confirmed flight JT-904 went into the sea while landing at Denpasar Airport. The aircraft PK-LKS originated in Banjarmasin and was scheduled to fly to Bandung (JT-945), Denpasar (JT-904) and back to Bandung (JT-905). The aircraft carried 101 passengers and 7 crew.

Radar data confirm the aircraft was approaching runway 09 and suggest the aircraft was about 100 feet below a 3 degrees glidepath descending at 700 feet per minute at a speed between 126 and 135 knots over ground, descending through 200 feet MSL about 1nm short of the touch down zone and 0.6nm short of the sea wall.
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So why has the plane no horizontal stabilser, it clearly missing in all the pictures. !!
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I'd suggest the horizontal stabilizer would be under the water in that attitude and with a crack in it's back.
Missing or detatched ... Unlikely.
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Why couldn't the 500-hour, pay-for-training First Officer been more helpful?

Glad to see nobody killed and look forward to seeing the accident report and likely cause. Hope this is a wake-up call but doubt it will be....

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Easy to see its in the drink at the WEST of DPS Airport. The other end, East side and also end of RWY09 is swamp then a bay not where the photos show the Surf breaks Airports Lefts and Rights start
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You know those Boeings on order? They're replacement aircraft... not for fleet expansion. Good thing the bottom feeder hasn't killed anybody yet.
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Tail plane ripped off as they were intending to land on 09 but hit the water first

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Good thing Lionair ordered hundreds of Airbus A320/21 aircraft - they say Airbus aircraft were designed to keep 3rd World pilots from killing themselves.... You don't see Air Asia losing many Airbus airframes...

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It looks more like an undershoot than an overshoot.
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The hori stab is visible in the photos.

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Right hand horizontal stab and top of right winglet appear torn off.
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Right hand horizontal stab and top of right winglet appear torn off.
They just don't build them like they used to!
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http://gerryairways.********.sg/2013...-and-ends.html
here is good assesment
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Thanks Jack. That was informative. The link didn't work so I googled the blog. Cheers.
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With at least 6 accidents (including several write off's) since start up, you can understand part of the reason why they have such large aircraft orders
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My guess is Windshear.Man are those pax lucky o wat.
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fuel

My guess us fuel exhaustion. No visible slick of any kind in the water. Configured but landed short in water.
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Funny....I said Windshear and then I found this
Thai crash investigators from the Thailand Department of Civil Aviation initially speculated that wind shear was the cause of the crash. Two years later, National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) reported that wind shear was not a factor in the crash.[1]
A two-year investigation by NTSB resulted in a report [1] mainly incorporated into the crash report published by the Aircraft Accident Investigation Committee of the Ministry of Transport.[2] Both reports found that the Captain and First Officer had worked hours vastly in excess of the legal flight limits; that the first officer attempted to transfer control to the captain during the go-around; that neither pilot initiated a go-around and that the training and safety programs at the airline were deficient
One-Two-GO Airlines Flight 269 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

An eerie reminder.
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