Lion Air to set up budget carrier in Malaysia
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if Lion is really soo confidence to beat AirAsia or MAS, why don't they make it Lion Air Malaysia? Probably because of their bad safety record, eh...? Most recent tailstrike in BPN on sept 8, 2012..#
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Hogger60... nice article. Yes it different in Indonesia. Not a easy ride there..
I think he has running out of steam.. no new ideas are coming out from him for sometime. hhmmmm...
calm before the storm maybe...maybe he quietly trying or finding out how to buy BATAVIA AIR...(that a safe airline for you
) the new storm..
And the BPN incident, was not the fault of Lion pilots. it was the fault of the cargo/ramp handling service in Balikpapan..which is not lion staff. the BPN loading service they didnt follow the loading instructions of the load sheet.
By the way... everyone has there incidents, MAS/AirAsia/Garuda has many but it kept quiet, you wont believe the stories, you never know what happens in the cockpit
Trust me you wouldnt like to hear what Batavia Air get up too. Sadly for Lion, it the spot light for them at the moment.
I think he has running out of steam.. no new ideas are coming out from him for sometime. hhmmmm...
calm before the storm maybe...maybe he quietly trying or finding out how to buy BATAVIA AIR...(that a safe airline for you) the new storm.. And the BPN incident, was not the fault of Lion pilots. it was the fault of the cargo/ramp handling service in Balikpapan..which is not lion staff. the BPN loading service they didnt follow the loading instructions of the load sheet.
By the way... everyone has there incidents, MAS/AirAsia/Garuda has many but it kept quiet, you wont believe the stories, you never know what happens in the cockpit
Trust me you wouldnt like to hear what Batavia Air get up too. Sadly for Lion, it the spot light for them at the moment.
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I believe the Malindo name came from NADI people... As a major shareholder, they try to shy away from the fact that it is an airline from Lion Air.. It is known that most of NADI management is ex-military attache, and MALINDO name is commonly use when Malaysia-Indonesia hold a join exercise.. just my 2cent
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Just wondering what the prang tally is between Lyin' Air and Scare Asia?
I don't think AA has killed anyone dead yet, but I'm sure the scores are
roughly even in the Runway Excursion competition.
I don't think AA has killed anyone dead yet, but I'm sure the scores are
roughly even in the Runway Excursion competition.
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AirAsia seeks collaboration with Malindo Airways
KUALA LUMPUR: AirAsia Bhd is seeking potential areas of collaboration with stakeholders of the new Malindo Airways.
Its group CEO Tan Sri Tony Fernandes said in this regard, he will be meeting with Lion Air's parent company, PT Lion Grup president director, Rusdi Kirana soon.
"We can collaborate with Malindo Airways. I am not here to make enemies. I will meet Rusdi over dinner soon.
"There are many thing that we can collaborate on. Personally, I respect Rusdi who has done a fantastic job in Indonesia," Fernandes told reporters after launching AirAsia's Badminton Academy on Wednesday.
However, he said the competition between AirAsia and Malindo Airways is still on.
"AirAsia has a very strong foothold in the regional aviation industry to face the competition.
"Without doubt, we will compete against each other. I know what it takes for an airline to win," he added.
National Aerospace and Defence Industries Sdn Bhd (Nadi) and PT Lion Grup will form the new frills-free Malindo Airways, which is poised to start operations in May 2013 using the soon-to-be completed KLIA2 in Sepang.
It plans to offer flights within Malaysia and Indonesia, as well as to Thailand, China, India, Japan and Australia.
Nadi owns a 51% stake in Malindo Airways, with the balance held by the Lion Grup. - Bernama
Rusdi, I would certainly check and make sure you still have your wallet after your meeting with the Fatman. Just like with MAS when Air Asia bought in, Tony was all sweetness and light while killing FireFly Jets. This just shows that he is worried about ANY LCC competition. Good luck Malindo.
KUALA LUMPUR: AirAsia Bhd is seeking potential areas of collaboration with stakeholders of the new Malindo Airways.
Its group CEO Tan Sri Tony Fernandes said in this regard, he will be meeting with Lion Air's parent company, PT Lion Grup president director, Rusdi Kirana soon.
"We can collaborate with Malindo Airways. I am not here to make enemies. I will meet Rusdi over dinner soon.
"There are many thing that we can collaborate on. Personally, I respect Rusdi who has done a fantastic job in Indonesia," Fernandes told reporters after launching AirAsia's Badminton Academy on Wednesday.
However, he said the competition between AirAsia and Malindo Airways is still on.
"AirAsia has a very strong foothold in the regional aviation industry to face the competition.
"Without doubt, we will compete against each other. I know what it takes for an airline to win," he added.
National Aerospace and Defence Industries Sdn Bhd (Nadi) and PT Lion Grup will form the new frills-free Malindo Airways, which is poised to start operations in May 2013 using the soon-to-be completed KLIA2 in Sepang.
It plans to offer flights within Malaysia and Indonesia, as well as to Thailand, China, India, Japan and Australia.
Nadi owns a 51% stake in Malindo Airways, with the balance held by the Lion Grup. - Bernama
Rusdi, I would certainly check and make sure you still have your wallet after your meeting with the Fatman. Just like with MAS when Air Asia bought in, Tony was all sweetness and light while killing FireFly Jets. This just shows that he is worried about ANY LCC competition. Good luck Malindo.
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Besides wallets.. check your fingers too.. TF..can sure BULLS*@T a lot of hot air about the competition..."We can collaborate with Malindo Airways. I am not here to make enemies. I will meet Rusdi over dinner soon.
"There are many thing that we can collaborate on. Personally, I respect Rusdi who has done a fantastic job in Indonesia," Fernandes told reporters
I guess he might be scared of the competitions self exile in indonesia. he cant stop it this time. unlike the previous time.. when lion sighed with Berjaya, and other airlines which wanted to start up.
here is something new...
AirAsia X to Launch Child-Free Zone
The long-haul arm of Malaysia-based budget carrier AirAsia said on Wednesday that it is to ban young children from sitting in the first seven rows of its economy-class section to create a “quiet zone.”
According to the airline’s website, the first seven rows on AirAsia X flights will be restricted to passengers 12 and above from February next year.
The cost of choosing a seat in the quiet zone will be the same as the 35 ringgit ($11.35) charged for picking specific seats or the 110 ringgit it costs to select a seat with extra legroom.
“We know that sometimes all you need is some peace and quiet for a more pleasant journey with us,” the low-cost giant said on its website.
Rival Malaysia Airlines sparked debate over its decision in June last year to bar infants from first class cabins in its Airbus A380 superjumbos, which it began taking delivery of this year.
The full-service flag carrier said the move would result in some loss of revenue but it had received many complaints from well-heeled passengers about noisy infants.
AirAsia, which has hubs in Malaysia, Thailand, Japan and Indonesia, is Asia’s largest budget carrier and launched its long-haul arm in 2007 to serve routes beyond the airline’s core Southeast Asian market.
Agence France-Presse
"There are many thing that we can collaborate on. Personally, I respect Rusdi who has done a fantastic job in Indonesia," Fernandes told reporters
I guess he might be scared of the competitions
self exile in indonesia. he cant stop it this time. unlike the previous time.. when lion sighed with Berjaya, and other airlines which wanted to start up. here is something new...
AirAsia X to Launch Child-Free Zone
The long-haul arm of Malaysia-based budget carrier AirAsia said on Wednesday that it is to ban young children from sitting in the first seven rows of its economy-class section to create a “quiet zone.”
According to the airline’s website, the first seven rows on AirAsia X flights will be restricted to passengers 12 and above from February next year.
The cost of choosing a seat in the quiet zone will be the same as the 35 ringgit ($11.35) charged for picking specific seats or the 110 ringgit it costs to select a seat with extra legroom.
“We know that sometimes all you need is some peace and quiet for a more pleasant journey with us,” the low-cost giant said on its website.
Rival Malaysia Airlines sparked debate over its decision in June last year to bar infants from first class cabins in its Airbus A380 superjumbos, which it began taking delivery of this year.
The full-service flag carrier said the move would result in some loss of revenue but it had received many complaints from well-heeled passengers about noisy infants.
AirAsia, which has hubs in Malaysia, Thailand, Japan and Indonesia, is Asia’s largest budget carrier and launched its long-haul arm in 2007 to serve routes beyond the airline’s core Southeast Asian market.
Agence France-Presse
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1 wonder in which area AK con cooperate with Malindo.. "okay Rusdi here's the deal. Say i order another 100 aircraft but this time from Boeing, u can order the same but from Airbus.. Then we can share the intel about the pricing, we can negotiate for more than half!"
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1 wonder in which area AK con cooperate with Malindo.. "okay Rusdi here's the deal. Say i order another 100 aircraft but this time from Boeing, u can order the same but from Airbus.. Then we can share the intel about the pricing, we can negotiate for more than half!"
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Malindo Airways will offer 100 jobs to unemployed pilots in Malaysia to cater for its operations in May next year. The first intake of 20 students is expected to begin next month.
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Mr Monkeyz... that what he said to MAS and Firefly... we can share training etc.. next thing firefly hit rock bottom.. and with MAS is being taken with TF. PEOPLE PEOPLE TF doesnt like to share. he does play with others.. he like the wolf in little riding hood.
I heard, for training MAS has offered there services to Lion, NG sims etc...
Syukri... lion knew that they had to hire local crew eventually...this was coming.. What I heard that your glorious government has decided to pay the bill for all training associated with Malindo.. Free type rating for Malaysian CPL holder who join. Happy days....
I heard, for training MAS has offered there services to Lion, NG sims etc...
Syukri... lion knew that they had to hire local crew eventually...this was coming.. What I heard that your glorious government has decided to pay the bill for all training associated with Malindo.. Free type rating for Malaysian CPL holder who join. Happy days....
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I think TF worries about his aircrafts nearing D-check, and Lion has Airod with them.. That happens with MAE previously, lots of engineer all of sudden need to do license for A320.. Just speculating..
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There are some real staffing questions I have:
Where they are going to get the 737 Capts to fly the left seat for Malindo? There are more than enough CPL holders out there to fill all of the right seats, but where are the experienced Capts going to come from?
Are there enough Malaysian ATPL holders flying elsewhere who will come home for LCC pay? I would think anyone who has the license and hours is already flying for Air Asia. Or will they have to (once again) reverse course and have to allow expats to come in temporarily to fly?
Where they are going to get the 737 Capts to fly the left seat for Malindo? There are more than enough CPL holders out there to fill all of the right seats, but where are the experienced Capts going to come from?
Are there enough Malaysian ATPL holders flying elsewhere who will come home for LCC pay? I would think anyone who has the license and hours is already flying for Air Asia. Or will they have to (once again) reverse course and have to allow expats to come in temporarily to fly?
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For certain they will use those Captains from MAS that currently 'borrowed' to Lion.. And I guess they will need Indonesian Lion's Captain as well... Again, just speculating..
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jetjockey i dont think it will be free TR, for sure they will plan some loan scheme with any government org. FYI my CPL/IR fee also under loan from my government hehe
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Syukri... of course its a loan..hahaha... but its free in some sort of way.. When you earn a salary you pay back some of some of the loan.. so in a way you never need to pay from your own pocket. HAHAA....
I just hoping this loan is for every minority in malaysia. and not to a SELECT few. REMEMBER MALAYSIAN GOVERNMENT "Satu Malaysia"
HAHAA....I just hoping this loan is for every minority in malaysia. and not to a SELECT few. REMEMBER MALAYSIAN GOVERNMENT "Satu Malaysia"
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Since when any airline in Malaysia required newly joined co pilots to pay for type rating? Cant think of any..
In Malaysia P2F haven't really taken off yet, dont give them the idea. RM 100k is a lot of money. By sponsoring 4 co pilots (no guarantee all 4 will pass) government can build 4 low cost houses and gained 100 votes (25 names registered to a house).
In Malaysia P2F haven't really taken off yet, dont give them the idea. RM 100k is a lot of money. By sponsoring 4 co pilots (no guarantee all 4 will pass) government can build 4 low cost houses and gained 100 votes (25 names registered to a house).
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Majlis Amanah Rakyat.... Hidup UMNO 'let's save Malaysia airlines' and pour more rakyat's money for more turnaround plans, berjaya plan & make money plans from justifying 150% break bond value.
Yess... It's the airline which can make money from it's cadet by 50% from principal value even if u have 1 day to go till your completion type rating bond period. Ha...ha...ha... MAS knows how to make money more from it's cadet rather than market capitalization from airline service.
Let's amend the type rating bond by making it 300% penalty clause with a lock-in period of 13 hrs instead of 3 years then give them **** working conditions & promotion prospects entice them with other airlines offers so they will break the bond and MAS will claim the money endorsed by the court and the government. Easy money ehh..
Imagine almost 600 or more cadets in Malaysia no jets to fly they will come like vultures to the program why bother then with 'airline business'
Hidup '1 Malaysia'
Yess... It's the airline which can make money from it's cadet by 50% from principal value even if u have 1 day to go till your completion type rating bond period. Ha...ha...ha... MAS knows how to make money more from it's cadet rather than market capitalization from airline service.
Let's amend the type rating bond by making it 300% penalty clause with a lock-in period of 13 hrs instead of 3 years then give them **** working conditions & promotion prospects entice them with other airlines offers so they will break the bond and MAS will claim the money endorsed by the court and the government. Easy money ehh..
Imagine almost 600 or more cadets in Malaysia no jets to fly they will come like vultures to the program why bother then with 'airline business'
Hidup '1 Malaysia'
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Would u guys grow up? If u were given such opportunities would u turn it down? I dont give a rats ass about who rule or anything, I just try every chance i have..