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Old 27th Aug 2012, 12:51
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Grrr Air India Express almost loses another one

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Air India flight makes hard landing in Mangalore, causes scare - The Times of India

Rumors has it that Air India Express flight from Dubai that landed in Mangalore landed short of the runway threshold with an extremely high G Loading. Additionally, allegedly, there was debris kicked up causing the horizontal stabilizer to be damaged with punctures.

The commander was reported to be a former Indian Air Force pilot. The rumor goes on that the there may have been landing gear change so the aircraft could be ferried to Mumbai for repair.

Anyone have any additional info on the incident?
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Oooops, Has he been fire yet ?
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Why waste the talent? Probably made the director of flight standards.
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Theres a lot & i mean a whole lotta lot to be done when it comes to AI/AIX/IA, I just hope it gets better with time!
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Old 30th Aug 2012, 14:21
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mangalore

I made quite a few landings at mangalore, that is an approach that needs for you to be alert, slow, and configured, from early. Should be limited to ATR`s
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airjet: Should be limited to ATR`s
Mangalore airport, approaches & runway are just fine. Reading the comments of some, one could think that so called “airline transport pilots” should only be allowed to land on 10000 feet long runways, at sea level, with no wind and, no rain. And only with the AUTO LAND engaged. Ref. VABB RWY 27A ?
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Last time I was in Mangalore, it was supported by a precision approach. It had a touch down zone 1,000 feet from the threshold... level surface... runway lights and markings too.

Last time I checked, there are no obstacles to cross... and the winds are no worse than any other table top airport I've flown into either.

So what's the problem if the airman is disciplined and stable on approach, crosses the threshold at 50' on speed and touches down within 500' of the touchdown zone? Perhaps he shouldn't even be flying an ATR with passengers if he/she can't.

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The ATR's often use the shorter runway there. The place is absolutely not a problem.
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Holy hell, if you can't get a 73 properly on the ground at mangalore you should really stay away from an atr. It is much more challenging to fly an atr than the old 73. These guys who think mangalore is hard would curl up a cry at the sight of tegucigalpa, guatemala or 30 percent of the airports of the world. If your on profile, following sop you should be able to keep your nose clean barring a real crazy 1 in a million incident.
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Captjns....
You are 100% bang on with rgds to your previous post making him Dir Ops. The current Chief Pilot Training IS as a matter of fact one such pilot with a long history of incidents and failures throughout his chequered flying history. He is ONE HALF of the Dogra brothers!
Ask any expat pilot in AIE and they will give you the low down on these two brothers. Albiet in a whisper.
How he got where he got is anybody's guess.
I have a countryman and a colleague who has worked there and would vouch his career on the fact that the same person should be held completely responsible and culpable for the fatal Mangalore crash some years ago. This colleague was in pole position when he worked for the company.
I trust him after hearing his stories.

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