Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > South Asia and the Far East
Reload this Page >

Singaporean dies in Cessna crash (29 July 2012)

Wikiposts
Search
South Asia and the Far East News and views on the fast growing and changing aviation scene on the planet.

Singaporean dies in Cessna crash (29 July 2012)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 29th Jul 2012, 13:39
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Plano-Wellington
Posts: 228
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post Singaporean dies in Cessna crash (29 July 2012)

One Singaporean killed in air-crash in Malaysia. I hope DCA Malaysia shut FRAS Flying Club immediately.

A Singaporean was killed after a Cessna light aircraft he was piloting crashed in an oil palm smallholding in Kampung Parit Puasa, Ayer Baloi, here today, according to police.

Pontian Police deputy chief DSP Tan Moh Chuan said the pilot had been identified as Samuel Ling Shi Min, 24, of the FRAS Flying Club.

He said Ling’s body had been taken to Pontian Hospital.

The police were alerted to the crash at 2.10pm, he said, adding that they had left it to the Department of Civil Aviation to conduct further investigations.

An eyewitness, Mohd Shafian Buang, 15, said he saw the plane circling in the air before crashing in the oil palm smallholding about 100 metres in front of his house.

“I was sweeping rubbish when I saw the aircraft circling and then crash,” he said.

He said he heard a loud bang, and then ran to the scene with several neighbours but did not get close to the aircraft for fear that it would explode because they smelt fuel.

Mohd Shafian said he related the incident to his uncle who notified the police.
Droste is offline  
Old 29th Jul 2012, 14:11
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: 1 degree north
Age: 39
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
https://www.facebook.com/LSMSamuel

RIP dude..
Stallone is offline  
Old 29th Jul 2012, 14:44
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Singapoore
Age: 36
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It's not a cessna, its their LSA AT4 Light Sport Aircraft. Reg 9M-EYM
Heartfelt condolence to his family and let's not speculate on this till the facts is out.
Meanwhile fly safe everyone....

Last edited by SFC172N; 29th Jul 2012 at 15:26.
SFC172N is offline  
Old 29th Jul 2012, 15:28
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Singapore
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
RIP fellow aviator.
Dahawk is offline  
Old 29th Jul 2012, 15:42
  #5 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Plano-Wellington
Posts: 228
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Watch YouTube

Droste is offline  
Old 30th Jul 2012, 04:04
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Singapore
Age: 38
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The safety of the polish made aircraft seems reasonable. A through investigation should shed some light on the cause of accident. Was it a plane problem or pilot error...
Johnny632 is offline  
Old 31st Jul 2012, 16:46
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Uptown
Posts: 217
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The late pilot updated his status in facebook before the crash. Have a look at this link and judge yourself.......

Light Aircraft Crashed in Pontian 29July2012 - General Aviation - MalaysianWings - Malaysia's Premier Aviation Portal


VR
Virtual Reality is offline  
Old 1st Aug 2012, 02:48
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Singapore
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Soloed 2nd July, shouldnt he be doing solo circuits for now? What is he doing alone in the training area?
eerie is offline  
Old 1st Aug 2012, 02:56
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Singapore
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Condolences to his family and friends, and as always, lets not speculate anything. Just wait for the official reports to come out and we will know what happened. let's just leave the investigation to the professionals, and in the mean while everyone, fly safely...
2000robo is offline  
Old 1st Aug 2012, 04:32
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: On the equator
Posts: 1,291
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by eerie
Soloed 2nd July, shouldnt he be doing solo circuits for now? What is he doing alone in the training area?
Probably solo area exercises which is what most people do after they solo.
training wheels is offline  
Old 1st Aug 2012, 05:57
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Singapore
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Pardon my ignorance, I m not familiar with the PPL syllabus of other schools/club countries. Just wondering from personal experience.
eerie is offline  
Old 3rd Aug 2012, 23:52
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: UK + Singapore
Age: 35
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
His facebook post (mentioned above) gives cause for concern. He admits to performing max rate turns starting at 2500ft with a recovery at 300ft for no other reason other than being bored!

I'm guessing Malaysia does not have a 500ft rule?
9VSIO is offline  
Old 4th Aug 2012, 05:43
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Singapoore
Age: 36
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
DCA airlaw is very similar to ours, there is the 500ft law.
Contrary to our media suggesting that a talented young man was killed due to flying in JB on old planes or bad instructing, it is probably due to his own actions.

I believe no instructors will ever teach those stunts he did on his first few area solo. Throughout 8 years of flying I nv bank my wings past 60AOB, not even once.

Reason for what he did was that he was bored and wanted to seek excitement as well as to try to spot the potian wanton mee stall. On his blog he mentioned that the stall warning on 9M-EYM was fault. It may have played a part in the crash of the aircraft.

It may be possible that while banking the aircraft steeply, the AT4 loses airspeed rapidly and he didn't notice due to inop stall warning. The aircraft when into a stall and a spin immd due to wing down. This may match what the eye witness description of the aircraft circling as it goes down.
SFC172N is offline  
Old 4th Aug 2012, 15:40
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: On the equator
Posts: 1,291
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by SFC172N
I believe no instructors will ever teach those stunts he did on his first few area solo.
First area solo and he should have been practicing what's in the syllabus for the issue of a PPL. Perhaps a few steep turns at 45 or 60 degrees AoB, climbing descending turns, medium level turns etc. But according to the link above, he was bored and decided to do a turn at 120 degrees AoB which pretty much means he's rolled the aircraft inverted, and expected to recover at 300 ft AGL?? All this at probably 20 hours TT? I've been a flight instructor in the past and have about 1000 hours instructional flight time and I've never heard of any maneuver that requires a 120 degree AoB.

I wonder whether the playing on flight sim on the home PC have given student pilots a false sense of confidence these days to try such maneuvers.
training wheels is offline  
Old 4th Aug 2012, 21:29
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: UK + Singapore
Age: 35
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I wonder if the type of aircraft he flew also led to create a sense of adventure - after all, with a bubble canopy and control stick, he might have decided that he was in a fighter instead. It's still terribly tragic, but from that link above, I can't help but feel that something was always going to happen at some point
9VSIO is offline  
Old 5th Aug 2012, 02:09
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Singapore
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yet another reminder to all pilots, current and potential, to always respect the limitation of skills and aircraft, the rules and regulations, and the weather. Flying is fun, but can be unforgiving too.
flying.monkeyz is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.