The Mas Screw up
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The Mas Screw up
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Why has the reporting on this major Asian aviation event gone ever so quiet. Does this mean that AFF aka TF has made all of you happy with great reviewed payscales and bonuses. Or has he paid for the sweet sounds of silence?
Wooblah.
Why has the reporting on this major Asian aviation event gone ever so quiet. Does this mean that AFF aka TF has made all of you happy with great reviewed payscales and bonuses. Or has he paid for the sweet sounds of silence?
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Hey, who cares? Those who cared have left the mothership, the remaining imbeciles get their heads inside the sarongs and wait for a real good shag.
All the pre warnings over the last few years were totally ignored; mapa ties their members to their internal forum with a hear no evil, see no evil, say no evil policy. Remember pariah lato has a " very " active offspring/ nephew in mapa, all rumblings and anti MAS/AK sentiments will be reported to tf who now have 2 ex mapa prezs as advisers. Remember we were warned that should pariah g-string show up at MAS/AK doors, woe betide Malaysian aviators! No one paid any heed, so complacent and when the pariah showed up...so scared of latos. What a cojoneless bunch of sissies we have!
To discuss the biggest con job in Malaysian aviation history...shhh, that will be a very malu, not very safe thing to do lah. That means whoever who dare to question this deal is working for crooks, so malu lah. I can go on and on, but you surely know MAS pilots' mentality by now.
All the pre warnings over the last few years were totally ignored; mapa ties their members to their internal forum with a hear no evil, see no evil, say no evil policy. Remember pariah lato has a " very " active offspring/ nephew in mapa, all rumblings and anti MAS/AK sentiments will be reported to tf who now have 2 ex mapa prezs as advisers. Remember we were warned that should pariah g-string show up at MAS/AK doors, woe betide Malaysian aviators! No one paid any heed, so complacent and when the pariah showed up...so scared of latos. What a cojoneless bunch of sissies we have!
To discuss the biggest con job in Malaysian aviation history...shhh, that will be a very malu, not very safe thing to do lah. That means whoever who dare to question this deal is working for crooks, so malu lah. I can go on and on, but you surely know MAS pilots' mentality by now.
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It was pretty uncanny. Trawling through the previous threads on MAS, I noticed that there were several prescient warnings about possible moves by tf and even suggestions that the logical course of actions following the MAS debacle would be tf initiating some sort of shenanigans swallowing up MAS.
Now I am not sure if the guys who posted those covert warnings had any insider information, but they sure should have provided clearer alarm bells knowing the intellectual capacity of MAS pilots in general!
Now I am not sure if the guys who posted those covert warnings had any insider information, but they sure should have provided clearer alarm bells knowing the intellectual capacity of MAS pilots in general!
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Yes Gentlemen,
Right on the money. MAS pilots will go down with a whimper. If they had any you know whats they would use the thrust levers to show their disapproval. I guess back in the camel days they had the right idea and banished the humped one back to his boudoir.
Do you guys think TF is there to bail out MAS or is MAS there to bail out TF and CIMB who financed his huge aircraft order. Perhaps those that profited are feeling a tad skittish.
The plot thickens.
Wooblah.
Right on the money. MAS pilots will go down with a whimper. If they had any you know whats they would use the thrust levers to show their disapproval. I guess back in the camel days they had the right idea and banished the humped one back to his boudoir.
Do you guys think TF is there to bail out MAS or is MAS there to bail out TF and CIMB who financed his huge aircraft order. Perhaps those that profited are feeling a tad skittish.
The plot thickens.
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Sigh, it's 2012 and we are all hopeful of some great meaningful changes in bolehland. If this apathy and pathetic attitude of MAS pilots are representative of the general Malaysian mentality, then all is lost! Pochi!
This malaise ( pun intended seriously ) with the ketuanan sh*t is wreaking havoc at all levels. In the 60s and 70s the nons were pretty vocal in pointing out social injustice, industrial injustices and malpractices, now they have become the freak jokers of the feudal tuans.
Of late there are some murmurs of dissent amongst some minor higher ups about this tf/cimb master stroke of a deal vis-a-vis MAS/AAX, I think that had been snuffed out. Whatever happened to the MASeu hoo ha? I am quite sure these pre election sandiwara will come and go depending on the special branch's reports and analyses.
This malaise ( pun intended seriously ) with the ketuanan sh*t is wreaking havoc at all levels. In the 60s and 70s the nons were pretty vocal in pointing out social injustice, industrial injustices and malpractices, now they have become the freak jokers of the feudal tuans.
Of late there are some murmurs of dissent amongst some minor higher ups about this tf/cimb master stroke of a deal vis-a-vis MAS/AAX, I think that had been snuffed out. Whatever happened to the MASeu hoo ha? I am quite sure these pre election sandiwara will come and go depending on the special branch's reports and analyses.
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Would anyone miss them? I mean really? Would anyone care? Apart from the fat cats who have been skimming off the top for years and doing nothing? Sounds like MAS and RBA have been holding Monday morning meetings for years to get things so bad while a certain few have had their fingers in the till raping and pillaging the airline? Looks like little brother RBA has been learning from the big brother? Boleh lah. Dont say anything lah. Just keep quiet. Might upset those that are destroying the company and stealing hand over fist lah.......
Ops normal unfortunately.........
Ops normal unfortunately.........
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Dandie Fernandie has gone beyond the threshold and faced a hard landing ..pushed the go-around button and who is to help him for his smooth landing... Mesti Ada Sahabat!
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Good comments all around,
Heard on the grapevine that a leprechaun that was a plain consultant and claimant to cofounder of airasia has been diddling around MAS showing off his self induced brilliance in teaching MAS employees how to suck eggs. Now this is indeed a case of the blind leading the blind. I'll wager his CON-SULTANCY fees are exorbitant and if it were paid to the staff instead of his accounts, would amount to a tidy pay increase. "Here we go again pouring much needed money down the toilet bowl"
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Heard on the grapevine that a leprechaun that was a plain consultant and claimant to cofounder of airasia has been diddling around MAS showing off his self induced brilliance in teaching MAS employees how to suck eggs. Now this is indeed a case of the blind leading the blind. I'll wager his CON-SULTANCY fees are exorbitant and if it were paid to the staff instead of his accounts, would amount to a tidy pay increase. "Here we go again pouring much needed money down the toilet bowl"
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This release by the press a few days... stating that the MAS has dropped the regional airlines plans etc... I guess the government plan is going to confuse the people... and then do whatever they want, because no one wants to cause trouble and lose there precious jobs...and adopt the famous pose..head in sand, ass out in the air, high as possible... please...or/both...to lazy to give a tahi (not a fish
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MAS Drops Regional Airline Plan
April 03, 2012
PETALING JAYA, April 3 (Bernama) -- Malaysia Airlines (MAS) has dropped its plan to establish a short-haul regional premium airline and will instead offer such services in-house as a division under the national carrier.
Without offering any reason, MAS Chief Operating Officer (Short Haul) Ignatius M.C. Ong said there was already a slight business module realignment for the regional airline initiative.
"Strategy and objective of the short-haul operations will remain unchanged but there will be no new airline.
"The operations will come under the banner of Malaysia Airlines," he told reporters here after launching Firefly's fifth anniversary.
Ong also said MAS's organisation structure remained unchanged and the top management would make an official announcement soon.
MAS Chief Executive Officer Ahmad Jauhari Yahya is in charge of the national carrier's long-haul operations while his deputy, Mohammed Rashdan Yusof, looks after the airline's short-haul operations.
Late last year, Ahmad Jauhari, when revealing MAS's business plan, announced the establishment of a new regional premium airline by mid-2012 to focus on short-haul premium travel to profitable routes such as Asean and China.
He had said then that MAS would run the new entity without interference from other associated entities and the new airline would be a new business model for sustainable profitability and ensure focus on unique needs of regional premium travellers.
The plan was also for the regional airline to fly all domestic and regional routes serviced by MAS today.
Malaysia Airlines was in the red for the financial year ended Dec 31, 2011, with a net loss of RM2.52 billion, on the back of RM13.9 billion in revenue, thus marking its worst financial results since its inception.
For the fourth quarter, the national carrier recorded a net loss of RM1.28 billion on a turnover of RM3.68 billion.
-- BERNAMA 3rd April...
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MAS Now Focusing On Long, Short Haul Flights Under Different Brand Names - Najib
April 05, 2012
Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak said Malaysia Airlines (MAS) is now focusing more on long and short haul flights under different brand names.
The prime minister said the original MAS brand was being maintained for the long haul flights while for the latter, it is operated under the brand name of Firefly.
He said as MAS' rebranding exercise was still at the early stages, it was too soon to determine the overall cost involved.
"Under this rebranding, short haul flights will use smaller planes like the Boeing 737-800 to enable MAS to provide a wider premium network with better frequencies to enhance cost and operation efficiency," he said in his written reply to Wee Choo Keong (Ind-Wangsa Maju) in the Dewan Rakyat Thursday.
Wee had wanted to know the cost entailed for MAS' rebranding following a share swap between MAS and Air Asia under the Comprehensive Collaborative Framework (CCF) agreement between the two airlines.
Najib added that MAS would also be introducing a new image for the Airbus A380 superliner which is scheduled to start operations in July this year, and in the process increase passenger load through continuous marketing strategies to return to profitability.
-- BERNAMA
)MAS Drops Regional Airline Plan
April 03, 2012
PETALING JAYA, April 3 (Bernama) -- Malaysia Airlines (MAS) has dropped its plan to establish a short-haul regional premium airline and will instead offer such services in-house as a division under the national carrier.
Without offering any reason, MAS Chief Operating Officer (Short Haul) Ignatius M.C. Ong said there was already a slight business module realignment for the regional airline initiative.
"Strategy and objective of the short-haul operations will remain unchanged but there will be no new airline.
"The operations will come under the banner of Malaysia Airlines," he told reporters here after launching Firefly's fifth anniversary.
Ong also said MAS's organisation structure remained unchanged and the top management would make an official announcement soon.
MAS Chief Executive Officer Ahmad Jauhari Yahya is in charge of the national carrier's long-haul operations while his deputy, Mohammed Rashdan Yusof, looks after the airline's short-haul operations.
Late last year, Ahmad Jauhari, when revealing MAS's business plan, announced the establishment of a new regional premium airline by mid-2012 to focus on short-haul premium travel to profitable routes such as Asean and China.
He had said then that MAS would run the new entity without interference from other associated entities and the new airline would be a new business model for sustainable profitability and ensure focus on unique needs of regional premium travellers.
The plan was also for the regional airline to fly all domestic and regional routes serviced by MAS today.
Malaysia Airlines was in the red for the financial year ended Dec 31, 2011, with a net loss of RM2.52 billion, on the back of RM13.9 billion in revenue, thus marking its worst financial results since its inception.
For the fourth quarter, the national carrier recorded a net loss of RM1.28 billion on a turnover of RM3.68 billion.
-- BERNAMA 3rd April...
and
MAS Now Focusing On Long, Short Haul Flights Under Different Brand Names - Najib
April 05, 2012
Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak said Malaysia Airlines (MAS) is now focusing more on long and short haul flights under different brand names.
The prime minister said the original MAS brand was being maintained for the long haul flights while for the latter, it is operated under the brand name of Firefly.
He said as MAS' rebranding exercise was still at the early stages, it was too soon to determine the overall cost involved.
"Under this rebranding, short haul flights will use smaller planes like the Boeing 737-800 to enable MAS to provide a wider premium network with better frequencies to enhance cost and operation efficiency," he said in his written reply to Wee Choo Keong (Ind-Wangsa Maju) in the Dewan Rakyat Thursday.
Wee had wanted to know the cost entailed for MAS' rebranding following a share swap between MAS and Air Asia under the Comprehensive Collaborative Framework (CCF) agreement between the two airlines.
Najib added that MAS would also be introducing a new image for the Airbus A380 superliner which is scheduled to start operations in July this year, and in the process increase passenger load through continuous marketing strategies to return to profitability.
-- BERNAMA
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Tweaking the system all the time just to patch up all the damage done by the gluttons on the buffet train!
Rebranding, new business models, re strategise, revamp, re focus....then recycle these junk slogans that they learnt in junk MBA classes and modules. Sloganeering and spin doctoring, alas a wawasan 2020 trait. Do you guys get it?
For the past 20 over years, we are getting this re, re, re, re sh*t every two to three years. The thing to do is close down the airline, fire everyone and start re- hiring again. This time the re....thing may work small time! What do you folks think? Keep this thread alive....re re ree react to my post!
Rebranding, new business models, re strategise, revamp, re focus....then recycle these junk slogans that they learnt in junk MBA classes and modules. Sloganeering and spin doctoring, alas a wawasan 2020 trait. Do you guys get it?
For the past 20 over years, we are getting this re, re, re, re sh*t every two to three years. The thing to do is close down the airline, fire everyone and start re- hiring again. This time the re....thing may work small time! What do you folks think? Keep this thread alive....re re ree react to my post!
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Hehe, that's funny, and so true! Reading your post just now made me think of Royal Brunei. What a bunch of clowns! I've never worked for MAS but you basically described RBA's operating ethos down to a T.
The only hope for them both is to remove the oxygen thieves in "management" (loosely termed) and get some people in there that have a clue and some experience and perhaps not so blatantly and so obviously corrupt?
It's never gonna happen of course as those involved will ride that horse into the ground as long as their in a position to cheat and steal from their comrades and brothers.
Their greed and their lack of IQ will be the company's downfall, in both company's.
It's quite fun watching the mayhem unfold. Re vamp, re mold, and my favorite corporate buzz slogan "going back to ones roots"
FAIL! Get back to the free Buffett.......
The only hope for them both is to remove the oxygen thieves in "management" (loosely termed) and get some people in there that have a clue and some experience and perhaps not so blatantly and so obviously corrupt?
It's never gonna happen of course as those involved will ride that horse into the ground as long as their in a position to cheat and steal from their comrades and brothers.
Their greed and their lack of IQ will be the company's downfall, in both company's.
It's quite fun watching the mayhem unfold. Re vamp, re mold, and my favorite corporate buzz slogan "going back to ones roots"
FAIL! Get back to the free Buffett.......
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Hey Kentot & 777,
Well you guys are right on the money. But I think the buffet train is leaving at mach buffet speed. If the rumours about the leprechaun are true than paying this amount of money for questions you already know the answers to is just a pure waste of much needed cashflow. As for the guts of the pilots, I think the ground staff have shown much more resilience and fortitude than the flight crews. Sad but true.
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Well you guys are right on the money. But I think the buffet train is leaving at mach buffet speed. If the rumours about the leprechaun are true than paying this amount of money for questions you already know the answers to is just a pure waste of much needed cashflow. As for the guts of the pilots, I think the ground staff have shown much more resilience and fortitude than the flight crews. Sad but true.
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Ha ha ha Kentot you hit the nail right on the head of the MBA types. They re gurgitate all the garbage from those " con " business classroom modules, re cycle unworkable stuff, re work their slogans, re vamp their business models, re organise their " architecture ", re structure their work, re hash their overall plans which are finally found to be just fit for the re fuse bins!
This re thingy really got to me; when the Boeing RTO procedure re verted to calling for " stop " instead of calling " re ject ", poor me is still calling " re re STOP "!
This re thingy really got to me; when the Boeing RTO procedure re verted to calling for " stop " instead of calling " re ject ", poor me is still calling " re re STOP "!
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I guess the situation in MAS mirrors that of many Asian airlines like those in Indonesia...we have this wanton corruption and underhand dealings that led to systemic failure. It started from the top and the rot is so hard to stem. The recent Lion Air deals are highly suspect as most wnder how sustainable is th sudden upsurge in their ventures. Garuda is slowly taking a hit as such " wonder boys " come out with gravity defying business risks.
Also I heard that corruption and foul play didn't just happen at the high corperate level; even small things like fleet promotion are subjected to disgusting foul play! I read somewhere that the MAS pilot association chief played dirty to leap frogged over other more deserving pilots for the coveted A380 course. WTF, professional association or union chiefs are suppose to be above this kind of underhand deals and dirty games. It's a complete disgrace if it is true! Won't mapa members insist he resign in disgrace? Are mapa guys just going to take this kind of ****?
Also I heard that corruption and foul play didn't just happen at the high corperate level; even small things like fleet promotion are subjected to disgusting foul play! I read somewhere that the MAS pilot association chief played dirty to leap frogged over other more deserving pilots for the coveted A380 course. WTF, professional association or union chiefs are suppose to be above this kind of underhand deals and dirty games. It's a complete disgrace if it is true! Won't mapa members insist he resign in disgrace? Are mapa guys just going to take this kind of ****?
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Well Chaps,
We all know about the corruption and little kingdoms within the MAS structure. But this lcc premium tie up is I feel a bail out for airasia. I think moves are underfoot to move the busses into MAS to prevent airasia paying penalties for aircraft purchases. The X airline will take profitable routes and the extra A330's will be absorbed into MAS. The fat one can rave and rant as much as he wants but me thinks he and his cohorts are in trouble. Will the house of ringgits topple.
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We all know about the corruption and little kingdoms within the MAS structure. But this lcc premium tie up is I feel a bail out for airasia. I think moves are underfoot to move the busses into MAS to prevent airasia paying penalties for aircraft purchases. The X airline will take profitable routes and the extra A330's will be absorbed into MAS. The fat one can rave and rant as much as he wants but me thinks he and his cohorts are in trouble. Will the house of ringgits topple.
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Word amongst some in the SB is that some of AK's cohoots are getting pretty uneasy as the man is divesting and liquidating through proxies. He will probably keep only half of his holdings and will be lying low, wait and see if he cannot get someone " on the other side " corrupt or brave enough to ensure complete security. Air Asia/Mas tie up ensures Air Asia's survival as Mas is the national flag carrier and any incoming government will be duty bound to keep it alive. By being grafted onto Mas, Air Asia survives and also gets a bail out. Pretty clever for them, but not us the tax payers.
In the immediate future Petronas will not be able to bail out Mas as we are not getting the full price for our crude oil...maybe only 10-12% of the current market price. Maybe EPF, Tabung Haji, Socso and other funds will be sourced to be used...so it is not easy for tf's present patrons to prop up Air Asia. Only Mas can justify a bailout due to national honour.
In the immediate future Petronas will not be able to bail out Mas as we are not getting the full price for our crude oil...maybe only 10-12% of the current market price. Maybe EPF, Tabung Haji, Socso and other funds will be sourced to be used...so it is not easy for tf's present patrons to prop up Air Asia. Only Mas can justify a bailout due to national honour.
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Ladies and Gentlemen,
Why has the reporting on this major Asian aviation event gone ever so quiet. Does this mean that AFF aka TF has made all of you happy with great reviewed payscales and bonuses. Or has he paid for the sweet sounds of silence?
Wooblah.
Why has the reporting on this major Asian aviation event gone ever so quiet. Does this mean that AFF aka TF has made all of you happy with great reviewed payscales and bonuses. Or has he paid for the sweet sounds of silence?
Wooblah.
Also I heard that corruption and foul play didn't just happen at the high corperate level; even small things like fleet promotion are subjected to disgusting foul play! I read somewhere that the MAS pilot association chief played dirty to leap frogged over other more deserving pilots for the coveted A380 course. WTF, professional association or union chiefs are suppose to be above this kind of underhand deals and dirty games. It's a complete disgrace if it is true! Won't mapa members insist he resign in disgrace? Are mapa guys just going to take this kind of ****?
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Most MAS people consider people who post negative stuff ( however true ) on Pprune as traitors and renegades. They have been brought up in a culture of intimidation, sweeping things under the carpet and utter apathy.
Sadly most cannot see beyond the tip of their nose. How do you think that Malaysia had gone from a country with the most potential in Asia in the 60s to one most likely to turn into a basket case in the not too distant future? It has been written over and over again, the going ons in MAS closely mirror the Malaysian society. With AK now in the cauldron of corrupted mess, MAS will be stripped off its quality brand and assets.
Sadly most cannot see beyond the tip of their nose. How do you think that Malaysia had gone from a country with the most potential in Asia in the 60s to one most likely to turn into a basket case in the not too distant future? It has been written over and over again, the going ons in MAS closely mirror the Malaysian society. With AK now in the cauldron of corrupted mess, MAS will be stripped off its quality brand and assets.