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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 14:32
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The SAF periodically flies along the FIR boundaries periodically from SIN right up to the North of Sumatra and back. They fly low level at A050 (5000ft) and are in contact with Lumpur Information.
Sometimes they enter the Lumpur TMA without permission. The charts are already with you to show the boundaries and limitations of Lumpur TMA.
Deviating into the approach/departure path of an International Airport is not a safe thing without a two way radio comm. I understand if you are on a weather deviation but please do tell us what are your intentions (for eg what is your heading and how long you will be on that heading. With weather being a norm every afternoon around the approach path of 32L/R, deviations and flying across the localizer is a norm. Help us to help you.
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I am sorry, to say, RMAF intruded Singapore airspace first, right from the beginning.
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Hi truefaith, did RMAF intrude into the Changi TMA without two way comm?
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veloo maniam: What exactly is the point you're trying to make with this thread?
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Old 30th Mar 2012, 03:53
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Saint, safety my friend safety. You dont enter someones TMA without talking to anyone do you? I had to put a couple of airplanes on different headings because this F50 guys refuse to acknowledge anyone. Hope this helps.
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Old 30th Mar 2012, 14:36
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It's a safety concern but I'll be pleasantly surprised if SAF would respond to this thread.
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Old 30th Mar 2012, 17:17
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Veloo,
good try... n on behalf of the airspace users, thanx for watchin our backs.... but seriously.... this should be left to our muscleman at wisma putra....make it official.....
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veloo maniam: slayerdude is correct, if you're having occasional airspace intrusions by the SAF (or anyone else) on your watch simply make a note of the date/time/place etc. and passed this through the established channels for action.
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Thanks guys point noted will act accordingly
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Sometimes they enter the Lumpur TMA without permission. The charts are already with you to show the boundaries and limitations of Lumpur TMA.
Sorry to say this, but this is just basic airmanship. You do this on a PPL checkride and you fail the check. Hard to believe that professional military pilots would be making such basic errors.
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