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Old 1st Jan 2012, 05:08
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Korean Air local term (Oversea Koreans only)

Hello

We are a group of pilots at KAL hired through the civil experienced pilot program. We'd like to share information about the process.

Our website is 대한항공 민경력 조종사회

The minimum is 1000 hours total.
Multi IFR commercial license.
ICAO English proficiency level 4 or up.
No age limit. (was 40 years old)
Foreign passports ok as long as your background is Korean and speak Korean.

You can apply only through recruit.koreanair.co.kr


All interview and training is done in Korean.


Follow us @kal_cep (Korean AirLines Civil Experienced Pilots)
Email [email protected]


Please understand that because we are just pilots trying to help out others, we are unable to answer questions about cabin crew, foreign pilot via agency, Non-Korean background pilot.
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Old 2nd Jan 2012, 01:36
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What Korean would possible want to do such a crappy job?!!! If you get hired as a Korean, you cannot get a contract, you are hired as an employee, therefore get 1/2 of the contract rate plus as an F/O that is Korean, you are subjected to the Korean CAPs that will denigrate you. I've seen it first hand as recently as 6 months ago, with CAPs hitting their F/Os in the arm and seeing LCPs in the jump seat poking the F/O and giving him crap for the littlest of things. This company needs to be avoided by all pilots, Korean or not, unless you really have to have a job and maybe as an F/O to gain international experience, but with no upgrade and getting treated like crap, it's a lot of pain to go through. Good luck with anyone wanting to deal with this company. Pilots are leaving in droves and they are struggling to recruit anyone. The poster of this message is not a Korean pilot, but it's the KAL chairman's daughter that started this recruiting company. So young lady, when you are reading this, if you want pilots to come or stay, you need to raise your pay similar to China's and then have your Management team change their punitive ways. KAL's arrogance is going to cost you grounding your planes that are arriving because you won't have enough pilots. The current pilots are already working max hours and being TOLD to work minimum days off now. forget that. Why i got the heck out of that crappy place when i could.
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Old 2nd Jan 2012, 05:12
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Just managed to bail out, serving my notice now. I'm glad my rusty old bag is still wanted. I have another Korean who's going to be in my batch.

They are surely feeling the desperation now. Through my recruitment agency, no less than 6 guys had confirmed resignation in Jan, and for the local Koreans, 8 are in line for final clearance. I guess this is no news to many who knew.

Quite sure it's not gonna be greener patch westward, but the dole is definitely significantly bigger with my tax residence in Canada (just moved recently for the new gig).
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Old 2nd Jan 2012, 07:00
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Congratulations...... I can only substitute what you say. Another plus is that you start sleeping better at night and have a more fulfilled day. Since my final departure last year I had great expiriences during my working day again. I got treated with honesty again from all other Co-Workers: In the Office, in the Flight OPS and in the Airplane. The hierarchy is rather flat and the real safety exits again at the core value.

When you talk about the daily life in KAL, surprise line check, inability to trade trips with your colleagues, the way from the Terminal to COC and back, the stubborn behaiviour of the Cabin Crew towards the Customers and and and, some people who do not know KAL think you make it up, we know it is just the tip of the iceberg.

The take home money is more then KAL has to offer on top of all that......
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Old 2nd Jan 2012, 09:58
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Thanks. Ain't gonna add on to the list but you are right on, especially how the cabin crew are even allowed to express such arrogance when in actual fact most are as childish as a 10 year old.
I also wonder the hostility has got to do with their (the local cockpit crew) inability to fight for what they want. And now they are attempting to draw attention of overseas Koreans with >1000hours experience in an English forum to join them to make up the numbers? I wish them luck.
The commute contract is no longer that fantastic and I don't have the advantage of age to see me through a pay raise in KAL, of which I'm not hopeful of.
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