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Contract agency rants and Kudos, Vietman, Korean, Asiana, Rishworth

Old 8th Jan 2013, 10:03
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Hi Guys - I would like to talk to somebody who is with Tianjin or West Air on the 320 contract.
Anybody dealing with Cockpit Connect or Tempo ?
Any input good or bad would be appreciated.
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Old 11th Jan 2013, 07:16
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Nobody ???????
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Old 11th Jan 2013, 17:36
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Cockpit connect or Tempo? NEVER heard of them, and would never use unless there's enough positive feedback on them!

Is that what you are asking Volare?
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Old 14th Jan 2013, 13:26
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Smile aviation

Any feedbacks on Smile Aviation in China?
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Old 15th Jan 2013, 12:24
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There is no feedback because there are no pilots in China working for Smile Aviation. Another scam in China run by somebody's brother in law.
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Old 19th Jan 2013, 14:48
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I agree with you about Smile Aviation.

For people who live in China, that website looks normal. But from an expat stand point having lived in China, you can see the Chinese website presentation and the over use of that Chinese blue color. You know what I'm talking about if you spent time in China. There is an odd shade of blue and red that is used very often that I have never seen on an international website or sign. The character spacing and margins of the Chinese website are a little off from the international style from what I am guessing is the pixels per character.

A Chinese agency. That would be interesting like Alice in Wonderland interesting.
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Old 25th Jan 2013, 12:44
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thanks for the heads up.
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Old 25th Jan 2013, 13:32
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Yes - JotaJota - Tempo is advertising on the Flight International web site.
Must say the are very helpful when it comes to answering email queries. Thats about how far I have gone . Anybody else got any info about agencies dealing with Tianjin or West Air ?
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Old 7th Mar 2013, 13:54
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anyone has feedback for this guys?
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Old 11th Mar 2013, 03:14
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Question Smile Aviation

I talked with these folks at length this week. I've been a contract captain in China for three years and married into the culture (not Mainland however). Smile seems on the up and up, I have corroborating details from disinterested 3rd parties. They say they have placed 18 pilots in China (they are 2 years old), and I know for a fact they placed some S.A. guys from my current carrier. It appears they are well connected with the CAAC, which for any of us who fly/qualify in China can be very advantageous...... Any comments?
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Old 11th Mar 2013, 04:08
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Hi Pierre - With you flying in China, do you by any change know anything about West Air. I am talking to Tempo aviation. They seem very helpful so far, but I have not really gone further the exchanging a couple of emails.
I am keen on West Air as the seem to offer a good commuting contract.
Any info good or bad would be great !!!
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Old 14th Mar 2013, 11:46
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Longreach Aviation

I am enquiring for any info or experiences with this company and particularly relating to the ANA B767 contract.

Longreach have offices in Hong Kong and Australia and recruit for Japan, China and Korea. I beleive they are associated with Parc somehow.

Any comments gratly appreciated.
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Old 16th Mar 2013, 07:02
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Longreach is rather associated with CREW
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Old 16th Mar 2013, 10:46
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LindbergB767, sorry, you are correct. They are associated with Crew somehow.

Do you have any experience with them? Or have you heard anything about them from other expat pilots?

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Old 25th Apr 2013, 16:36
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comment about aeropro

Having worked with Rachel and having a vague idea of who you are, I must tell the good community out there that participate in these forums to peer away from comments made by this gentleman skypirate. I myself am a genuine recruiter who cares for people that work with us and am someone who works for a company that most certainly isn't in the mess people around business.
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Old 9th May 2013, 20:49
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Definitely an interesting thread guys/ gals,

I am Not a contract pilot and I don't claim to know a lot about the contract world. I fly for an airline directly, but this thread is definitely a good read. Many years ago, the airline I was flying for shut-down. A lot of us were left scrambling to find work. Parc aviation was the only company that flew out to meet us and offer their services for possible over seas contract work. From what I can remember the Parc Recruiters put on a great presentation. Lucky enough, most local airlines were hiring, and most of us stayed in Canada with the exception of a few that went to the sandbox or did contract work to stay in the left seat on type. One thing that comes to mind after reading this thread is, the lack of Pilot Representation. It seems to me that theses airlines in China Etc, wouldn't be contracting out for pilot services unless they really had too. Ie, pilot shortage for Captains and some f/o. If this is the case, correct me if I'm wrong, you guys/ gals have the upper hand. No? You have the experience and the pilot licence. The Carrier is simply renting your experience and most importantly renting your licence for a period of time i.e 1-5 yr. contracts. It boggles me why some of you are getting for the better lack of terms, "screwed" by the carrier or agent. Why don't you Epats demand a third party to hold a lump-some of money 20-30 thousand US dollars retention money from the agent before any contract is signed so you can afford to bail and get back home just in case the carrier or the agent decided not fulfill the contract. Subject to be returned to the agent when the contract is fulfilled and complete. It sounds like some carriers are praying on some, with no way out. This should not be happening in this day in age, and theses company's should be Black Balled from the contract pilot community. Just my thoughts. I look forward to your comments, fly safe.

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Old 30th May 2013, 10:21
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Lion Air SFI

Please don't consider me as fair game to be shot down in flames simply because I'm asking about Lion Air and Rishworth. I'm only attempting to make contact with any expat contractors with current experience of this position whose knowledge I could draw on.
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Old 7th Jun 2013, 04:40
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I have friends who are on the opposite end of the spectrum. Some says that Rishworth has been treating them well, they have been with them for around 8 years. Some say don't even dare join them. I guess it boils down on your preferences, expectations, where and when you want to work. Just sharing what was told to me.
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Old 10th Jun 2013, 21:53
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I know one of the guys (pilot) that started the company, lots of good intentions, but the other partners in the company created big problems for the original founder, nothing to do with PARC.

Unlike some folks that continue to live in the past, I feel that Rishworth is the top contract agency in Asia currently, this due to direct support when you need it, along with better than average contract terms and they don't gouge you with absorbitant wire transfer fees, in the case of Skymark, they were the only contractors that supplied their pilots with full health insurance at no cost.

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Old 26th Jul 2013, 13:21
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UNIC aviation

A company named UNIC aviation is doing the recruiting for Hainan Airlines.
Anybody heard of UNIC Aviation before? Does anybody knows anybody being hired through them?
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