Indian First Class Medicals for Expats
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Why rave & rant about a Medical. Just go and become FIT. It will be good for everybody in Aviation.
JAA doctors in India have been awarding Med Fitness very easily eg. Late Captain Z. Gluscia of Serbia flying the ill fated Air India Express flight in May 2010
JAA doctors in India have been awarding Med Fitness very easily eg. Late Captain Z. Gluscia of Serbia flying the ill fated Air India Express flight in May 2010
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you are 26
you are 26 and live in Delhi, wait until you have been flying for 20 years, commuting, with a wife and kids and a mortgage, if you are still in great shape I'll be impressed
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Curious... has the AI Express crash been blamed on the pilot not being fit to fly ?? Did they find something about him that was caused by him only holding a JAA medical ??
Come on
, everyone is pounding on the poor dead guys coffin, but I cant find the fact that the crash was caused by this guy medical, actually I dont think there is any findings at all yet is there ??
Come on
, everyone is pounding on the poor dead guys coffin, but I cant find the fact that the crash was caused by this guy medical, actually I dont think there is any findings at all yet is there ??
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No Sir Broken not yet.
It is likely to be blamed on the FDTL rules, they are taking time to make sure people to blamed for lax FDTL have ample time to destroy the evidence of thier involvement.
It is likely to be blamed on the FDTL rules, they are taking time to make sure people to blamed for lax FDTL have ample time to destroy the evidence of thier involvement.
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Being subjected to Sub-Standard medical practices
Being subjected to sub-standard medical practices is the biggest problem with ex-pats taking these exams and the fact that the results mean nothing with the license that the ex-pat operates on.
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its very simple, all holders of Indian licences, should be banned from flying internationally until this fiasco is sorted out. let them kill their own people domestically.
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Look... we can all agree that there should never be a medically unfit crewmember in the cockpit.
If we able to turn the clock time back to when we were in our early 20s, this medical would be a non event for most too. However we are not. The majority of the expats are in their late 40s and onward. Now this medical becomes a fearful event and in most cases doomed to failure.
Perhaps leveling the paying field may not be such a bad idea. Members of SWIP, and Indian Airline Pilots Union, precipitated medicasl for expats.
OK here's one for them. All Indian pilots age 45 and older resubmit to the initial medical and satisfy the requirements of an initial First Class Medical as administered by the Indian Air Force.
Now for the reality check... the DGCA will not come to their senses and have expats submit to the same renewal First Class Medicals as those in India. So the Expat Pilot Inquisition is here for the foreseeable future.
At the end of the day... as more expats continue to fail their medicals in these dark days of the Expat Pilots Inquisition, will result in less qualified crews. Less crews, grounding of aircraft.
As for the delusional Microsoft Pilots to think... the are of the opinion an auotmatic upgrade to the left seat is in their immediate future... think again. Here's one for the Microsoft F/Os... is the term LIABILITY INSURACE part of your vocabulary??? In this economy... the liability of a Microsoft Pilot in the left seat is not worth the risk of insurnace to the insurance company.
The private carriers will have to demand immediate relief or reform if they want their respective carriers growth plans to continue.
Just a thought... you know what they say... supply and demand??? too many F/Os and not enough captains??? the "F" word... can you say furlough?
If we able to turn the clock time back to when we were in our early 20s, this medical would be a non event for most too. However we are not. The majority of the expats are in their late 40s and onward. Now this medical becomes a fearful event and in most cases doomed to failure.
Perhaps leveling the paying field may not be such a bad idea. Members of SWIP, and Indian Airline Pilots Union, precipitated medicasl for expats.
OK here's one for them. All Indian pilots age 45 and older resubmit to the initial medical and satisfy the requirements of an initial First Class Medical as administered by the Indian Air Force.
Now for the reality check... the DGCA will not come to their senses and have expats submit to the same renewal First Class Medicals as those in India. So the Expat Pilot Inquisition is here for the foreseeable future.
At the end of the day... as more expats continue to fail their medicals in these dark days of the Expat Pilots Inquisition, will result in less qualified crews. Less crews, grounding of aircraft.
As for the delusional Microsoft Pilots to think... the are of the opinion an auotmatic upgrade to the left seat is in their immediate future... think again. Here's one for the Microsoft F/Os... is the term LIABILITY INSURACE part of your vocabulary??? In this economy... the liability of a Microsoft Pilot in the left seat is not worth the risk of insurnace to the insurance company.
The private carriers will have to demand immediate relief or reform if they want their respective carriers growth plans to continue.
Just a thought... you know what they say... supply and demand??? too many F/Os and not enough captains??? the "F" word... can you say furlough?
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Somewhere on PPRuNe I have seen a post running down an Indian Doctor for being strict while conducting FAA medicals. The Medicals at Indian Air Force now make me feel that the FAA Doc in Delhi is a Saint. He diagnoses problems without much ado & also helps get rid of them or tame them in quick time so as to enable award of Medical Fitness in a short-time.
I think more and more of us should go to him (the Delhi FAA Doctor) before we face up to the Indian Air Force Medical exam.
I think more and more of us should go to him (the Delhi FAA Doctor) before we face up to the Indian Air Force Medical exam.
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@ Fibreglass
Thanks for the name.
I only meant to say-if rap* is inevitable why not relax and enjoy it? Dr. Bhal will only help find our Medical problems and set them right so that we can in turn get an easy fitness from India Air Force.
It will be a win-win situation for us and for Aviation in general.
Thanks for the name.
I only meant to say-if rap* is inevitable why not relax and enjoy it? Dr. Bhal will only help find our Medical problems and set them right so that we can in turn get an easy fitness from India Air Force.
It will be a win-win situation for us and for Aviation in general.
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There is no easy pass from the Indian Air Force for the older generation that is subject to the same requirements of those who are age 21.
No age leeway given for the fogies
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With the large number of downs, the next two weeks should prove interesting. Perhaps the non state owned companies will step up to the plate and demand reform. Or they will resign themselve to the fact that jets will may have to be parked in the future due to unqualified staffing.
The older generation remembers what happens when there is overstaffing too.
No age leeway given for the fogies
.With the large number of downs, the next two weeks should prove interesting. Perhaps the non state owned companies will step up to the plate and demand reform. Or they will resign themselve to the fact that jets will may have to be parked in the future due to unqualified staffing.
The older generation remembers what happens when there is overstaffing too
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rumor has it there is at least 1 or more globals parked now due to this requirement.
I also know of another brand new just delivered jet that is sitting idle as they cannot get a expat in, (apart from a short term contract pilot on huge daily rate who is exempt from the medical!) its also the only of its type in the country so there are no qualified locals... sad situation for aviation as a whole in India
I also know of another brand new just delivered jet that is sitting idle as they cannot get a expat in, (apart from a short term contract pilot on huge daily rate who is exempt from the medical!) its also the only of its type in the country so there are no qualified locals... sad situation for aviation as a whole in India
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AKSHAYA BHALLA MD
Phone Number: 911124507558
Mailing Address: HEALER'S CLINIC, K-37, SOUTH EXTENSION PART 2
New Delhi, India
this FAA doctor is a crook who sells the medicals. So cut the nonsense.
I personally know some Indian pilots with Indian medical and he still tried to extort them when they went to renew the FAA medical.
Cheers
Phone Number: 911124507558
Mailing Address: HEALER'S CLINIC, K-37, SOUTH EXTENSION PART 2
New Delhi, India
this FAA doctor is a crook who sells the medicals. So cut the nonsense.
I personally know some Indian pilots with Indian medical and he still tried to extort them when they went to renew the FAA medical.
Cheers
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Flt 812
You mean a repeat of the accident must be prevented(?)
The final (COI) report has not been disclosed publicly, only released to the minister, therefore you are speculating as to the cause, and the PIC's health status.
If you are privy to the final report, let us know.
Here on this forum would be fine.
The final (COI) report has not been disclosed publicly, only released to the minister, therefore you are speculating as to the cause, and the PIC's health status.
If you are privy to the final report, let us know.
Here on this forum would be fine.
