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Old 17th Jul 2011, 09:45
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MemBersihkan MAS

Actually not really too bad an idea to get TF to swallow up MAS! Vey hard to turn round a lumbering decaying behemoth, but kill it for a quick death. Then start anew. Many years ago Dr Madhey said that if " we " can't run MAS properly, it's better to get some outside expert to do it. Maybe TF is our local " outside " expert!
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Langka, looks like your wish is slowly coming true. See this link :

Share swap deal: AirAsia's Fernandes to gain 20% stake in MAS.


Quite scary thinking what he is going to do if get his hands on the national carrier.
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Old 7th Aug 2011, 23:55
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The evil empire is crumbling and the warlords are making hay while the sun still shines. All the levers of the present regime, especially the senior civil servants, are facilitating the looting ( utilising all the legal manoevres ) to strip whatever assets there is. Air Asia's foray into MAS board will soon come with the 20% stake and watch out guys, you are in for interesting times. Once this is proven successful, the other GLCs will come in for more wholesale looting! Maybe MAPA should get into the act too!
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maybe now people will see who the real traitors are; those who left or those who stayed and continued to squeeze the company dry
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Old 8th Aug 2011, 19:24
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A majority of MAS people, sadly most pilots, believe in the gomen's " crying wolf " philosophy that all who gripe on the internet forums are evil saboteurs. They RELIGIOUSLY BELIEVE in " in-house " unions doing " bed-mate " industrial deals whereby the " union/association " heads get " lu tolong gua, gua tolong lu " kinds of goodies. Union/association leaders revel in rubbing shoulders with latuks and tan sris, golf games with tips on share markets and general publicity on the gomen control airwaves and media. 100% ameno style or dumno moolayu style. The baruah chinese and indian arselickers also get sikit sikit bread crumbs lah.

Air Asia business model has always been dubious and dodgy; MAS operational structure is at best unsustainable with useless " MARA like " strategy. All jaguh kampung mentality. 100% ameno style.

Marrying these two " loser " entities is making a marriage made in " loony toon " land!
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Old 8th Aug 2011, 23:21
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It's all very sad. Some 30 years ago, MAS was chugging along fine with Saw Huat Lye and then Tan Sri Aziz at the helm. No big drama, just an exquisite Malaysian brand with quite a mix of " Truly Asia " without the big glitzy adverts wasting tax payers money. Service was great with a great " Malaysian " experience awaiting the lucky traveller. Then came the kerala kaka with his big fat ideas to further his grandiose political ambitions forcing MAS to fly all over the globe to places like Jo' burg, Cape Town, Buenos Aires, Zagreb etc, all losing heaps of money. PM charters were never paid for. Nincompoops recruited to be pilots and into the management. Parochialism, regionalism, mad hatterism all practised and executed to a hilt. Money meant for development of good airports diverted to Langkawi, MAS money spent on hotel land/yachts, more kedahans onto power levers of MAS and the government. Now we have a new DFO, another kedahan...nice fellow perhaps but can you see the pattern?
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Old 9th Aug 2011, 10:09
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My khazanah sources tell me that the upper echelons of MAS, the upper level Malay MASEU and MAPA leadership were quietly made aware of the hush hush dealings wrt AK and MH.....only the cina and india baruahs in MASEU/MAPA were left totally behind blinkers. Provisions were made to pre empt any protests or unhappiness . A little of sandiwara will be allowed as tokenism but everything is a done deal! Nothing you mozies can do about it. Man up and take it up your six, people!
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Old 9th Aug 2011, 10:55
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Going back to posts # 52, 53, and 60, 61, and 62, I really wonder if some of you guys were already in the know about this deal. I suspect a lot of people do know and expected this to happen but dare not be too open about it. As for me I am totally wrongfooted; I thought it would be smart of MAS to have a leg in AK. Gee, this is indeed depressing news.
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Old 10th Aug 2011, 00:56
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Not that those writers of posts #52,53,61,62 are really prescient but I guess they keep the ears and eyes keenly tuned. The writing was all over the wall but like all bolehland denizens, MAS people keep their heads buried in the sand ( I can send back more sand if they want ). Thesy just want to hear good news, heap praises like toadies on the industrial and political masters. If you read the stuff on the internet and the various blogs intelligently, and make intelligent deductions the recent turn of events should come at no surprise.
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Read somewhere that the secret negotiations had been going on for a year; so some people did indeed know something eventhough it was hush hush.

Poor Tengku Azmil, no support from flight ops and dfo. Years ago Dr Don organised demo-support for Tajuddin at MAA; this time nada!
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Yes, but strangely Dr Don was the one who initiated court proceedings against Tajuddin Ramli. Did he uncover such extensive wrongdoings or was it only a sandiwara? I am amazed at audacity and downright crookedness of our Malay bethren. What more with the de facto law minister giving explicit instructions to all the GLC involved in suing TR that they drop all the legal actins, utterly mindbongling! I am really gobsmacked at all these shenanigans.
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quote "Poor Tengku Azmil, no support from flight ops and dfo. Years ago Dr Don organised demo-support for Tajuddin at MAA; this time nada!" unquote

are you serious?

what did he ever do to justify that kind of demo-support as you put? the higher you are in a company hierarchy the more you need to accomplish to remain in position. i have nothing personal against him but lets be realistic about the whole thing. just because some people may not like tf putting his hands into mas doesnt mean you have to support someone else just for the sake of it.

in any case you shouldnt worry about him, even in all these they know how to take care of their own

quoted from bernama news:

It also announced the resignation of managing director (MD), Tengku Datuk Seri Azmil Zahruddin Raja Abdul Aziz, effective Tuesday. Azmil will join Khazanah as executive director, investments, effective Sept 12, 2011, MAS said. MAS chairman, Tan Sri Md Nor Yusof, said Azmil has made a significant contribution in the company's transformation during his tenure as both CEO and chief financial officer.

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Old 13th Aug 2011, 01:57
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My dear strato, ever heard of tongue in cheek?
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My khazanah sources tell me that the upper echelons of MAS, the upper level Malay MASEU and MAPA leadership were quietly made aware of the hush hush dealings wrt AK and MH.....only the cina and india baruahs in MASEU/MAPA were left totally behind blinkers. Provisions were made to pre empt any protests or unhappiness . A little of sandiwara will be allowed as tokenism but everything is a done deal! Nothing you mozies can do about it. Man up and take it up your six, people
Alamak, looks like the mas and mapa umnoputras did know. Never mind we always get sugarcoated tips and snippets from our highly bodeked lot!

Wonder if there gonna be any changes to replace the divisional heads. Maybe AAX dfo should give ba' am a run for his money!
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Old 18th Aug 2011, 23:58
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MAS flight operations need new blood for a complete renewal. Year in and year out we have the same nincompoops pretenders with their hohum, lacklustre ideas. The AAX dfo who had worked in the sandpit can probably come up with fresher ideas as against those rat proteges
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Old 19th Aug 2011, 08:39
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Sadly, due to the lack of formal tertiary education, most of our dfos become pushovers at meetings of divisional heads. Most divisional heads had tertiary and post-graduate training whereby they were trained in negotiations ( conning, lying without batting an eye, arm twisting, etc ), legal wrangling, psychology, industrial relations and politics. Pilot dfos were sadly lacking in such skills ( notwithstanding the laughable MBAs or MARA type diplomas/degrees that some acquired ) and at crucial meetings, the other divisional head had them for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

This is the fault of our recruitment system where only a mere SPM/MCE was required. No doubt a SPM/MCE guy may be very intelligent with great motor manipulative skills which are superb for flight training, the lack of formal tertiary ( or at the very least STPM/A levels/pre-U ) education means that those aspiring for management posts are inadequate in terms of formulating strategies, policies and tactical manoevres. Small wonder flight operations division is diminishing in stature day by day.

That flight operations need new blood for regeneration is very telling.We sorely need people with the intestinal fortitude backed by a well rounded educational foundation to chart a solid path for flight operations be the leading divison in MAS.
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Old 19th Aug 2011, 09:16
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The AAX dfo who had worked in the sandpit .. is now implementing a world class EFB at AAX & AXM
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Sadly, due to the lack of formal tertiary education, most of our dfos become pushovers at meetings of divisional heads. Most divisional heads had tertiary and post-graduate training whereby they were trained in negotiations ( conning, lying without batting an eye, arm twisting, etc ), legal wrangling, psychology, industrial relations and politics. Pilot dfos were sadly lacking in such skills ( notwithstanding the laughable MBAs or MARA type diplomas/degrees that some acquired ) and at crucial meetings, the other divisional head had them for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
What an astute and succinctly insightful piece of observation!

That's why the other divisional heads like the dfos to be, clueless and yellow bellied so that they can ride roughshod over flight operations.
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Old 21st Aug 2011, 21:39
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The AAX dfo who had worked in the sandpit .. is now implementing a world class EFB at AAX & AXM
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that is but one good example that there were and still are good and capable in mas. some left and some stayed back and both for various reasons but also worth noting that quite a few left because they did not want to be managed by sub standard managers spewing out policies that gets nowhere fast.

however contrary to cote babe the issue is not degrees or mba or phd's, richard branson doesnt have a degree, steve jobs doesnt have a degree.

the issue really is using your brains to do what you are paid to do and i believe pilots are smart people infact better that arts stream management types with degrees in sastra melayu and the likes and then put into positions to run a division in an airline

the issue is whether or not you are promoted because of your ability to have vision and ability to contribute and not because you are nice to some people

one of the perenial reasons mas is not getting anywhere is the refusal to accept reality and the inability or refusal to change (really cant put my finger on which one) examples abound on that point; one is with the whole world going it around them mas still does not embrace it fully but instead only using computers as a paper copy.

in other airlines staff can book and buy tickets online saving tons of money mas still insists for staff to head out to the office and take a number to get a ticket. manuals and circulars are another example and dont even want to get started on crew rostering and how its being done now, that after having spent millions.

there are lots more but am not going to spent time teaching them how to do their work after all they are the ones with the degrees.
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the issue really is using your brains to do what you are paid to do and i believe pilots are smart people infact better that arts stream management types with degrees in sastra melayu and the likes and then put into positions to run a division in an airline
The arts stream management types may not be that smart when it comes to maths or whatever but they are " politically and corruption " savvy. They may be dumb and run their companies to the ground but they know how to screw up your life; they know how to implement policies to cut down flight ops down to size. They advise the top managements how to limit your authority, limit your privileges, screw up your career progression etc! So don't be so smug thinking pilots are smart; history says otherwise.
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