Air Asia off the runway in Kuching!
malaysiacadet,
Your anger had clouded your wisdom. I'm pointing at the cheap skate management and not at the pilots! If you are a pilot with AA, it is sad to hear that you wish this could happen to me. If you're AA management,then shame on you!
Your anger had clouded your wisdom. I'm pointing at the cheap skate management and not at the pilots! If you are a pilot with AA, it is sad to hear that you wish this could happen to me. If you're AA management,then shame on you!
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Accident could happen to anyone. KCH is well known for its unfavorable weather.
What bugs me about this incident is the lack of escape slides in any of the picture seen. In another forum it was said that the slides were removed right after; granted that all the photos circulating were taken the morning after. I wonder if it is a normal practice to remove the slides after an accident.
What bugs me about this incident is the lack of escape slides in any of the picture seen. In another forum it was said that the slides were removed right after; granted that all the photos circulating were taken the morning after. I wonder if it is a normal practice to remove the slides after an accident.
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Lesenterbang:" accidents could happen to anyone"
How fatalist! NO! Accidents are mostly due to:
- unproper training management
- lack of safety culture in the management
- very low hours pilots with average or substandard training
and the main causes of runway excursion are:
- unstabilised approach
-too high; too fast; tailwind; crosswind
-inclement weather
in this case the runway length was more than enough, and it seems there was no crosswind.
But NO, accidents are not only a fatality!
How fatalist! NO! Accidents are mostly due to:
- unproper training management
- lack of safety culture in the management
- very low hours pilots with average or substandard training
and the main causes of runway excursion are:
- unstabilised approach
-too high; too fast; tailwind; crosswind
-inclement weather
in this case the runway length was more than enough, and it seems there was no crosswind.
But NO, accidents are not only a fatality!
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....is the lack of escape slides in any of the picture seen
to stop further heavy rain getting into the cabin.
Accident could happen to anyone.
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Undercarriage Doors
I notice from the photograph that the undercarriage doors are open.
Considering that the doors almost reach the ground when open and the aircraft is standing normally and from the photographs the doors look pretty well buried in the mud, perhaps this aircraft had a gear or brake or steering problem prior to landing. If the BSCU was inop' then they may have had all three problems.
Just a thought.
Considering that the doors almost reach the ground when open and the aircraft is standing normally and from the photographs the doors look pretty well buried in the mud, perhaps this aircraft had a gear or brake or steering problem prior to landing. If the BSCU was inop' then they may have had all three problems.
Just a thought.
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kwaiyai, "What has the BSCU to do with Landing Gear Doors?" - absolutely nothing, but everything to do with steering and brakes. My posting was some options observed from the photographs I have seen.
All will be revealed soon I hope.
All will be revealed soon I hope.
All will be revealed soon I hope?
Like what Chum? your post is frankly weird,
You say the undercarriage doors are open right.
Then U say They may have had a steering prob BF Landing Right?
Like I said if you dont see what is weird with your post
I wont comment, nor can b bothered,
Have a nice life,
Like what Chum? your post is frankly weird,
You say the undercarriage doors are open right.
Then U say They may have had a steering prob BF Landing Right?
Like I said if you dont see what is weird with your post
I wont comment, nor can b bothered,
Have a nice life,
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Gear doors open, for whatever reason, usually means no nosewheel steering - If the BSCU was inop' then all braking functions and nosewheel steering are affected.
As far as all will be revealed; No doubt the relevant Transport Safety Board will have an investigation and hopefully publish their findings so we can all learn from this unfortunate event.
There is no malice in my postings, just observation and comment.
As far as all will be revealed; No doubt the relevant Transport Safety Board will have an investigation and hopefully publish their findings so we can all learn from this unfortunate event.
There is no malice in my postings, just observation and comment.
I don't think any pilot would land with HYD/brakes problem in 800m visibility and wet runway. Most likely the departure from runway had jolted the doors open and the broken nose wheel would had the HYD drained thus no hyd pressure to hold the doors closed. Just guessing.
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Gents remember that the Landing gear cycle is alternately controlled by LGCIU 1 & 2. A BSCU failure would not effect the Land Gear cycle.
If both LGCIUs are faulty or a loss of the green/dual hydraulic failure then you would drop the gear manually.
Plus, maybe someone dropped the doors after the incident to inspect the damage to the bay!???
I'm just amazed AirAsia hasn't made a smoking hole in the ground yet!!!
And I hope they don't.
If both LGCIUs are faulty or a loss of the green/dual hydraulic failure then you would drop the gear manually.
Plus, maybe someone dropped the doors after the incident to inspect the damage to the bay!???
I'm just amazed AirAsia hasn't made a smoking hole in the ground yet!!!
And I hope they don't.
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Interview
During Air Asia interview there are this two guys telling everyone how Air Asia is the only Airline knows how to fly Airbus and the way Air Asia operate is the best way in the world .
Well according to incidents in past we all can question that statements !
This overrun is not first time it become a trend and there must be a problem in Air Asia training or other policy .
Well according to incidents in past we all can question that statements !
This overrun is not first time it become a trend and there must be a problem in Air Asia training or other policy .
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During Air Asia interview there are this two guys telling everyone how Air Asia is the only Airline knows how to fly Airbus and the way Air Asia operate is the best way in the world .
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When AirAsia got it's first A320s, two management pilots, back in 2005, landed out of configuration and fast in Kutching. The result was four main wheels blown.
The excuse was flap problems. A friend of mine, who I will not name, was one of the engineers sent with airbus reps to understand what went wrong. Result, nothing to do with the plane, but he was instructed along with the Airbus guys to say it was a flap problem.
Sadly, if AirAsia does eventually make its smoking hole, I doubt anything would be learn or changed.
Follow the money!!!
The excuse was flap problems. A friend of mine, who I will not name, was one of the engineers sent with airbus reps to understand what went wrong. Result, nothing to do with the plane, but he was instructed along with the Airbus guys to say it was a flap problem.
Sadly, if AirAsia does eventually make its smoking hole, I doubt anything would be learn or changed.
Follow the money!!!
