HELP! Indian COP RTR (c)
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HELP! Indian COP RTR (c)
Hi guys. I am in a bit of a situation here.
I have an RTR (C) that I got based on a UK FRTOL which is valid till June 2011.
I got the RTR (C) back in June 2008 after I gave the Part-I and in 2009 there was this new rule that says you need to give only part-I 1s and pay Rs. XXXXX DD and you can get and Indian RT for as long as your UK FRTOL is valid.
My question is since I already gave the Part-I 1s back in 2008and have a RTR (C) do I need to give the exam again? If not how do I renew my RT renewed? and is there any recency (flying hours) required for renewal??
Thanks for the help
I have an RTR (C) that I got based on a UK FRTOL which is valid till June 2011.
I got the RTR (C) back in June 2008 after I gave the Part-I and in 2009 there was this new rule that says you need to give only part-I 1s and pay Rs. XXXXX DD and you can get and Indian RT for as long as your UK FRTOL is valid.
My question is since I already gave the Part-I 1s back in 2008and have a RTR (C) do I need to give the exam again? If not how do I renew my RT renewed? and is there any recency (flying hours) required for renewal??
Thanks for the help
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@flyjet
Dude, I am in a similar boat as you. Except that I have a Canadian RT which has a lifetime validity. I did a bit of asking around and this is what I got to know
1. Your RTR (C) can be revalidated without having to give the WPC exam as long as your foreign RT is valid.
2. You can get it renewed if you have 30 hours of flying in the last 3 years
3. If neither of the above, then you need to give the WPC exam again!. Mind you, you will also need to renew your foreign RT because if that expires then what will you convert?
Hope this helps.
(PS: I am no authority on converting RT licenses. So please don't quote me or take my word as the final word)
1. Your RTR (C) can be revalidated without having to give the WPC exam as long as your foreign RT is valid.
2. You can get it renewed if you have 30 hours of flying in the last 3 years
3. If neither of the above, then you need to give the WPC exam again!. Mind you, you will also need to renew your foreign RT because if that expires then what will you convert?
Hope this helps.
(PS: I am no authority on converting RT licenses. So please don't quote me or take my word as the final word)
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Thanx on the response buddy, my RTR (C) is valid till June 2011 and the FRTOL uptill September 2013... I have 21 hrs of flying in August 2008 for my recency which I did only after I got my RTR(C) issued in June 2008.
Would any of you guys be helpful enough to guide me and let me know what is the procedure to get my RTR(C) renewed in such a particular case.
Thanx in advance guys
Would any of you guys be helpful enough to guide me and let me know what is the procedure to get my RTR(C) renewed in such a particular case.
Thanx in advance guys
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Thats the same problem with me. n the 30hrs experience thing is what i enquired from WPC office.. if u guys come out with a more resonable solution plz post... it would be of grt help!!!!
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The WPC is now issuing RTR's for a validity of 20yrs or lifteime since 2009... but i got my issued in 2008 for a validity of only 3 yrs not even for the time that my FRTOL is valid (5 yrs)... So is there a provision that makes me stand a chance of getting my validity extended without actually Renewing it (for which i would need to show them 30hrs of experience, as I lack about 9 hours for that)???
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lol
same problem with mine too.
tried everywhere, the only solution is attend the part 1 exam or re-apply with 30 hours exp in the past 3 years ( i'm short by 4 hours btw, hurts more than your situation!)
couple of my friends in various airlines, have found a new way - they gotta monitor the radio for 30 hours and viola, you can re-apply without an exam.
cheers,
P
tried everywhere, the only solution is attend the part 1 exam or re-apply with 30 hours exp in the past 3 years ( i'm short by 4 hours btw, hurts more than your situation!)
couple of my friends in various airlines, have found a new way - they gotta monitor the radio for 30 hours and viola, you can re-apply without an exam.
cheers,
P
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similar situation at my end. the only twist is I have 30 hours in the past 3 years. but my RTR(c) expires in sept and I can only apply 3 months before date of expiry.
My 30 hours expire in april.
I visited sanchar bhavan, the guy there suggested the same. get 30 hours monitoring the radio from any flying club and get RTR for 20 years else take Part 1 again.
My 30 hours expire in april.
I visited sanchar bhavan, the guy there suggested the same. get 30 hours monitoring the radio from any flying club and get RTR for 20 years else take Part 1 again.
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So you dont need to log 30 hrs of flying for the renewal? You can just get a certificate or any other proof saying that you have 30hrs of RT monitoring experience in the last 3 months?
So you dont need to log 30 hrs of flying for the renewal? You can just get a certificate or any other proof saying that you have 30hrs of RT monitoring experience in the last 3 months?
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Hello Ppruners,
I have just come back to India from US after my PPL and also got my UK RT from an examiner there, just sent the documents to UK a few days back so would be having the RT with me soon.
Now i know :
1. I need to give only Part 1 which is the written exam and once i clear that i would be granted the RTR.
2. How do i go about applying for the March attempt? I went to the ancient WPC site and couldnt understand a few things " Nationality & character cert"
, wonder whats that, i have a birth certificate and it shows am an Indian.
3. First we file an application online and then send the hard copy via post?
4. While applying do i need to tell beforehand that am applyin for RTR (C) as i dont know if i will get UK RT before the last date for applying lapses.
Thanks
I have just come back to India from US after my PPL and also got my UK RT from an examiner there, just sent the documents to UK a few days back so would be having the RT with me soon.
Now i know :
1. I need to give only Part 1 which is the written exam and once i clear that i would be granted the RTR.
2. How do i go about applying for the March attempt? I went to the ancient WPC site and couldnt understand a few things " Nationality & character cert"
, wonder whats that, i have a birth certificate and it shows am an Indian.3. First we file an application online and then send the hard copy via post?
4. While applying do i need to tell beforehand that am applyin for RTR (C) as i dont know if i will get UK RT before the last date for applying lapses.
Thanks
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RTR issue and renewal in India a big scam
RTR(P) Illegal work:The Department of Telecom (WPC) Folks, in most instances the The Department of Telecom (Wireless Planning Cell) are using ilegal memorandum and letters to confuse and harass innocent Pilots looking for issue of RTR(P) and RTR(C)--where P stands for Permit and C for Conversion.
WPC is governing thru Memorandums. Memorandums, however, are not Rules. To become Rules they must get the sanction of the Parliament. If a memorandum is issued when Parliament is not in session it must be placed before the Parliament for 30 full days no sooner it is in Session and then be passed by it. If this is not done the Rule sought to be implemented thru a Memorandum lapses. This is defined in the Indian Telegraph Act.
N.B WPC has issued RTR(P) to even PPL holders from South Africa and New Zealand--the one with PPL from South Africa is Mr Bijan Panda, Member of Parliament. Corner them (preferably the Wireless Adviser to Government of India of with this info when you have trouble. (I will give the NZ info if anyone requests).
Don't be scared of the Officials of WPC (Wireless Planning Cell, Dept of Telecom, Government of India).--Today their former Minister 'RAJA" and Secretary 'Behura' are in Jail for the 2G scam--they can follow them to jail for their actions.
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Criminals at the Top: If u Bribe UR in Jail
Criminals in WPC, Dept of Telecom include Wireless Adviser Dr. Satish Chandra YES.
Go file a RTI, ask them what is the legality of Memorandums.
Quoting a December 2008 memorandum as if it is a rule in 2011 is criminal.
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Hello everybody
My RTR(A) expires in October 2011 and am currently doing Airbus type rating .I would like to know if the type rating hours shall be counted for the renewal against 30 hrs critiria.
Thank you
My RTR(A) expires in October 2011 and am currently doing Airbus type rating .I would like to know if the type rating hours shall be counted for the renewal against 30 hrs critiria.
Thank you
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Indian RTR with a 20-year validity
I have the Indian RTR (C), which I got based on my UK RT license.
The Indian RTR (C) expires in June 2012.
30 hours in the last 3 years isn't an issue.
However, to be able to get the Indian FRTOL (from DGCA), what do we need to have - the Indian RTR (C) or would I need to give the Part 2 exam (viva) also?
What is the best way to go about getting the same?
Thanks
The Indian RTR (C) expires in June 2012.
30 hours in the last 3 years isn't an issue.
However, to be able to get the Indian FRTOL (from DGCA), what do we need to have - the Indian RTR (C) or would I need to give the Part 2 exam (viva) also?
What is the best way to go about getting the same?
Thanks
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too many theories...plz help
my understanding is that:
if you have rtr (c), u need to give part 1 to renew it (donno any other way)
i believe 30 hrs in last 3 yrs is reqd for ppl with rtr (a) indian (not converted) if they want to renew (coz it is valid for lifetime but provided the req hrs are there)
rtr(c) ppl only have the option of 20 yrs...but do we need current frtol, cpl? if yes, wat is the process as to renew these as mine will have validity of 2012 and 2013
also is current forein rt req? my dobon rt valid till 2016....if it is then wat sense does it make to get 20 yrs validity till 2031 if the other req dont have validity till 2031?
can we jus take 3yrs xtension?
if you have rtr (c), u need to give part 1 to renew it (donno any other way)
i believe 30 hrs in last 3 yrs is reqd for ppl with rtr (a) indian (not converted) if they want to renew (coz it is valid for lifetime but provided the req hrs are there)
rtr(c) ppl only have the option of 20 yrs...but do we need current frtol, cpl? if yes, wat is the process as to renew these as mine will have validity of 2012 and 2013
also is current forein rt req? my dobon rt valid till 2016....if it is then wat sense does it make to get 20 yrs validity till 2031 if the other req dont have validity till 2031?
can we jus take 3yrs xtension?