Indian Jet plunged due to air pocket??????
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Indian Jet plunged due to air pocket??????
Traveller.. 30th November 2010.
A co-pilot sent an international passenger jet into a terrifying nosedive when he adjusted his seat and accidentally pushed the control column forward, an official report revealed yesterday.
The clumsy officer then panicked and was unable to let the captain, who had gone on a toilet break, back into the cockpit as the plane plunged 7000 feet (2000 metres).
The captain only saved the Boeing 737 aircraft after using an emergency code to get through the cockpit door and take the controls back from the co-pilot, the report by India's Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) said.
The 25-year-old Indian co-pilot told the inquiry he had "got in a panic situation couldn't control the aircraft, neither open the cockpit door and answer the cabin call."
When the captain, 39, got back into the cockpit, he shouted "What are you doing?" as cabin crew ordered the 113 terrified passengers to fasten their seatbelts.
The report said there was "complete commotion" in the cabin and that passengers were "very much scared and were shouting loudly" as the plane dived steeply and boxes and liquor bottles fell into the aisle.
The Air India Express flight was flying at 37,000 feet from Dubai to Pune airport, in western India, on May 26 when the near-disaster occurred. No one was injured.
According to the report, the nosedive was "due to the copilot adjusting his seat forward and inadvertently pressing the control column forward."
The plane fell 2000 feet before the captain got back into the cockpit -- and another 5000 feet as he struggled with the panicking co-pilot.
"There was application of opposite force by pilot and copilot on control column," the report said.
It added that the copilot "probably had no clue to tackle this kind of emergency."
"Appropriate action shall be taken against the involved crew," it concluded.
After the incident, the captain tried to calm passengers by telling them that the aircraft had hit an air pocket.
A co-pilot sent an international passenger jet into a terrifying nosedive when he adjusted his seat and accidentally pushed the control column forward, an official report revealed yesterday.
The clumsy officer then panicked and was unable to let the captain, who had gone on a toilet break, back into the cockpit as the plane plunged 7000 feet (2000 metres).
The captain only saved the Boeing 737 aircraft after using an emergency code to get through the cockpit door and take the controls back from the co-pilot, the report by India's Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) said.
The 25-year-old Indian co-pilot told the inquiry he had "got in a panic situation couldn't control the aircraft, neither open the cockpit door and answer the cabin call."
When the captain, 39, got back into the cockpit, he shouted "What are you doing?" as cabin crew ordered the 113 terrified passengers to fasten their seatbelts.
The report said there was "complete commotion" in the cabin and that passengers were "very much scared and were shouting loudly" as the plane dived steeply and boxes and liquor bottles fell into the aisle.
The Air India Express flight was flying at 37,000 feet from Dubai to Pune airport, in western India, on May 26 when the near-disaster occurred. No one was injured.
According to the report, the nosedive was "due to the copilot adjusting his seat forward and inadvertently pressing the control column forward."
The plane fell 2000 feet before the captain got back into the cockpit -- and another 5000 feet as he struggled with the panicking co-pilot.
"There was application of opposite force by pilot and copilot on control column," the report said.
It added that the copilot "probably had no clue to tackle this kind of emergency."
"Appropriate action shall be taken against the involved crew," it concluded.
After the incident, the captain tried to calm passengers by telling them that the aircraft had hit an air pocket.
, won't be surprised if many more roller-coaster rides await in future ..
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if you put a person who is drunk and stoned out of his sense's in the co-pilot seat n he lean's on the control column when adjusting his seat and the aircraft plummets towards the ground , even with his slow reflexes ,his survival instinct would tell him to pull up the friggin control column . we know that in emergency the pilot has to stay cool ,but this dude just FROZE 
! He just took the adage "staying cool " to the next level lol.. 
! He just took the adage "staying cool " to the next level lol..
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Kid In The Cockpit
I know this punk who was copilot in the flight.
not surprising this happened when he was alone in the cockpit.
truly ... KID IN THE COCKPIT !
Aeroflot Flight 593 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
not surprising this happened when he was alone in the cockpit.
truly ... KID IN THE COCKPIT !
Aeroflot Flight 593 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Boys and girls - you'll have loads more of these things to look forward to over the next few months and years. The current system overseen by the DGCA is means that too many badly trained, poorly managed people will be operating in poorly regulated environment. The smoking holes in the ground are just tip of the safety iceberg. Make sure your life assurance covers you and your family if you don't make it home from work one day.
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"Boys and girls - you'll have loads more of these things to look forward to over the next few months and years. The current system overseen by the DGCA is means that too many badly trained, poorly managed people will be operating in poorly regulated environment. The smoking holes in the ground are just tip of the safety iceberg. Make sure your life assurance covers you and your family if you don't make it home from work one day".
Here comes the brigade of people patronising smoking hole theory and trying to become Michel de Nostredame by predicting what they think will happen to Indian aviation!
Alright your time starts now..
Here comes the brigade of people patronising smoking hole theory and trying to become Michel de Nostredame by predicting what they think will happen to Indian aviation!
Alright your time starts now..
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Even I'm gob smacked! Seriously how can you get it the wrong way round? Do they not teach "Push and houses get bigger, Pull and houses get smaller" in India???
I've knocked the A/P out loads of times moving around in my seat.
Option 1 has ALWAYS worked, stick it right back in. The best thing about this one is that it can be done in any seat position...
I hope this is not a sign of the India airlines' standard of cheap FOs. If so, will the wake up call be heard?
Keep it safe guys!
I've knocked the A/P out loads of times moving around in my seat.
Option 1 has ALWAYS worked, stick it right back in. The best thing about this one is that it can be done in any seat position...I hope this is not a sign of the India airlines' standard of cheap FOs. If so, will the wake up call be heard?
Keep it safe guys!
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CoPilot not trained in Pilot taking bathroom break!!
Pilot saves 113 passengers after large Boeing 737 plunges 7,000 feet in the air.
Pilot saves 113 passengers after Boeing 737 plunges. A simple seat adjustment from a 25-year-old co-pilot almost kills a 113 passengers. He sent the Boeing 737 into a terrifying 7,000-foot plunge.
The unidentified co-pilot on discount airline Air India Express was adjusting his seat forward. He inadvertently pressed the control column forward, which caused the plane to do a 26-degree nose dive. The aircraft's pilot was taking a bathroom break and the co-pilot "got in a panic situation, couldn't control the aircraft or ... open the cockpit door."
The 39-year-old captain then used a secret code to gain entry to the cabin and pulled the plane out of its dive. The aircraft would have broken apart if the descent had continued, the aviation agency report said. The aircraft was not damaged, and no one was injured.
The Directorate General of Civil Aviation said that the young co-pilot had not been trained to handle the situation and "probably had no clue to tackle this kind of emergency." The nearly fatal incident occurred on a flight from Dubai to Pune, India. Three days earlier, another Air India Express plane overshot a runway in southern India, crashed over a cliff and burst into flames.
Pilot saves 113 passengers after Boeing 737 plunges. A simple seat adjustment from a 25-year-old co-pilot almost kills a 113 passengers. He sent the Boeing 737 into a terrifying 7,000-foot plunge.
The unidentified co-pilot on discount airline Air India Express was adjusting his seat forward. He inadvertently pressed the control column forward, which caused the plane to do a 26-degree nose dive. The aircraft's pilot was taking a bathroom break and the co-pilot "got in a panic situation, couldn't control the aircraft or ... open the cockpit door."
The 39-year-old captain then used a secret code to gain entry to the cabin and pulled the plane out of its dive. The aircraft would have broken apart if the descent had continued, the aviation agency report said. The aircraft was not damaged, and no one was injured.
The Directorate General of Civil Aviation said that the young co-pilot had not been trained to handle the situation and "probably had no clue to tackle this kind of emergency." The nearly fatal incident occurred on a flight from Dubai to Pune, India. Three days earlier, another Air India Express plane overshot a runway in southern India, crashed over a cliff and burst into flames.
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And so it comes around. The so called fast track system of low hour pilots getting into the right seat of a jet with 300 hours. I was wondering when the incident rates would start to take a hit.
It has to happen - The Swiss Cheese model of accidents/incidents is coming true.
In this day - experience is the key. Put the low hour pilots into the smaller planes and build experience beating around the skies where they can hone their skills before letting run wild with a fully - automated plane with 100+ pax onboard.
Airlines should have a policy of at least 1500 hours before letting them into jets!!!! Common sense - but airlines are only interested in $$$
It has to happen - The Swiss Cheese model of accidents/incidents is coming true.
In this day - experience is the key. Put the low hour pilots into the smaller planes and build experience beating around the skies where they can hone their skills before letting run wild with a fully - automated plane with 100+ pax onboard.
Airlines should have a policy of at least 1500 hours before letting them into jets!!!! Common sense - but airlines are only interested in $$$
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I agree with you, but the problem comes from the fact that there are more medium jets like the 737 or 320 than smaller aircraft.
It really comes down to authorities raising the bar in terms of harder sim checks.
I agree with you, but the problem comes from the fact that there are more medium jets like the 737 or 320 than smaller aircraft.
It really comes down to authorities raising the bar in terms of harder sim checks.
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WTF, I mean, WTF? 
Yeah, give it time. All the newly trained, fresh from CPL course FOs being upgraded (when there's need, there's a way) and then, when captains, with another fresh from school guy, then that's what'd be scary, not just now with expat captains.
Better get sidestick 320 so that one can play about with seat and the pants, if needed.
Yeah, give it time. All the newly trained, fresh from CPL course FOs being upgraded (when there's need, there's a way) and then, when captains, with another fresh from school guy, then that's what'd be scary, not just now with expat captains.
Better get sidestick 320 so that one can play about with seat and the pants, if needed.
