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Old 11th Apr 2010, 14:35
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will dgca accept science background students as a pilot?if anybody knowns about that pls reply to my mail id [email protected]
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Buddy If u re an Indian National dreaming of becoming doing CPL and then
joining an airline to fly the Airbus A 320 or the Boeing 737 .. Then u ll not like what I write here..

RUN AWAY.. The situation is messed up ..
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will dgca accept science background students as a pilot?if anybody knowns about that pls reply to my mail id
Wrong place to post questions about a career in flying in India. Good luck finding any answers on this forum
 
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haha

yeah.... save yourself from the humiliation and from being broke.....
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Old 12th Apr 2010, 19:24
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For other details visit dgca.nic.in
Go through the Aircraft Rules 1937 and CARs

Good luck buddy !!!
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Really sad to see people discouraging others!!!
This is much worse than actual situation

Anyways to answer your question
it doesnt matter if you are a science student or any other
all they look for is a good pass mark in 12th in maths and physics
and you would have a complete professional pilots licenses and then try fr the job!

Dont get discouraged by others!!- cause they simply dnt have a job and jealous because they see their friends on a 737 or a 320 mostly!
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Dont get discouraged by others!!- cause they simply dnt have a job and jealous because they see their friends on a 737 or a 320 mostly!
Its not abt being jealous or discouraging people..
Its just that we are around to guide people and warn them about the
industry than rather see them doing their CPL and then sit around
being broke and in a pathetic situation..

If the thread starter manages to get a job then I ll definitely feel happy
for him but if he doesnt .. then another person goes down the drain..

See what I am saying is .. if u can afford to gamble with 20 lakhs and
still be financially stable.. then go for it.. else leave it..

THIS IS THE BAD TRUTH..

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@IndAir967

one thing you said

"RUN AWAY.. The situation is messed up .."

- is this really an answer you give to someone who needs information about being a pilot??i will be really ashamed of myself for being a pilot if something like this comes out of my mouth. It doesnt make sense at all, i know the situation is not really good out there in Indian aviation but telling someone to run away because of that is just not right!
you could have given some-other sensible reasons telling that poster why this is not the right time! i hope that poster knows the current situation and his actualy question was very different compared to your answers, he was just asking about the science background stuffs!!!

Well when i said people are jealous i never meant to target that opinion to you or other other posters out here. I was just telling what i have seen with my very own eyes in my personal experience and also here too!

Even i, i will be very happy if someone gets a job in these situations cause i know the feelings and i got a lot of experience and also i have also been highly discouraged by many (mostly pilots) when i just started my career and believe me i been through much more worse situations than what is going on today and i know the feeling that goes in you when someone discourages you despite of the situation.
If i ever let that happen, i wont be here what i am today on a right seat of a 777!

I just find it not right to discourage a person and trying to shatter his or her dreams!
why dont you advice them to find some other jobs and wait until the situation gets better or something like this, this wont hurt them like telling them to RUN AWAY!!
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So are u 777 based out of MAA for AI ?
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@vserian

With due regards to you sir, the majority of the 3000+ fresh CPL holders in India are right now unemployed and in debt only because they got a lot of encouragement, and positive inputs and always the bright side of the whole deal.

Nobody bothered to show them the other side of the story and hence they are where they are right now.

Unfortunately people continue to either fail to accept or purposely distance themselves from the bitter truth that :

AIRLINE PILOTS IN INDIA ARE PURE PRODUCTS OF PULL OR PROVIDENCE.

Indair967,

I totally agree to what you have written, although I would like to add that right now it is not a gamble of 20 lakhs, but rather a gamble of at least 50 lakhs.

Lets not forget the cost of a Type Rating which all airlines want candidate to pay for including some amount under the table.

Best case, you'll be flying some aircraft in an airline in India after getting a CPL, worst case you'll be 25-30 lakhs poorer.

If you can accept and embrace that bitter truth, you're good to go, else, be prepared to face insurmountable and heart wrenching grief later on.
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SHANX I dedicate this to you buddy..

Today, 14:28
Hey there
well i am a B777 FO with AI for the past 3 years
Pay actually depends on the position and the aircraft
as far as 777
a FO can earn between 1.8 to 3.5 lakhs per month
747 and A 330 a bit less than of 777s and the narrow-body FOs start with 80k till 2 lakhs
I NEVER KNEW AIR INDIA HAS A 330


3rd March 2010, 19:11
First officer Boeing 777 in india
have flown B1900 and A 310 before
$6500-$7000 PM
But wife takes all
it seems everyone is having this wife takes the money problem i thought it was only me


3rd February 2010, 11:58
Guitarboy is correct
recently my wife and her friend flew to paris from india via dubai
and it was a shame for me cause i work in a major airline in india flying B 777
and she didnt bother to fly on the airline i work in.the reason she said for it was the service and i was really embarrassed. well its India anyways
Buddy the choice of airline is your wife's personal thing i have no right to
interefere but .. she doesnt like a sector u say u fly.. i mean she feel s
her husband's aircraft and airline is crap eh ?


3rd February 2010, 00:33
3rd year FO India
currently flying B777s
between $5500-6000 per month
but wife takes all of it
I appreciate your sense of humour .. who are u man ? when all the folks at
NACIL are facing pay cuts u have got an hike from 5500 USD per month to
7000 USD per month in just 2 months ??

____________________________________________________________ _____________

Wish you best of luck in your career.

IndAir967

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well buddy, i do earn nearly 7000 USD
I dont know if you work in Air India, if not then you wont understand it for some reasons
and Air india do have A 330s, maybe you were a bit unlucky that you haven't seen them while you were flying and i am not based in chennai, i am based in mumbai but i spend my off days here in my hometown in chennai with my family.

If you think you are making fun of me that i may not be a pilot, why don't you pm me so that we can meet up one day anywhere you like!
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vserian,
I dont know if you work in Air India, if not then you wont understand it for some reasons
Most of us here do not have a flying job, but if you can please explain the details, may be we might learn something from you instead of battling out here.

@rajeshdonkina , you already have your answer about the Science back ground.

I have just one suggestion, before you start, read through various threads and forums of this website. You will find all the advice required.
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Old 16th Apr 2010, 09:29
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@shanx

"AIRLINE PILOTS IN INDIA ARE PURE PRODUCTS OF PULL OR PROVIDENCE"

And how did you arrive at this conclusion? I am sure that there are a vast majority in the present day who join the airlines only because of their pull or providence. But I am pretty sure there are a few deserving ones who got it just because of their talent and hard work.

Just because you and a few friends of yours fail to get in does not mean that everyone who gets it does not deserve to or is employed only because of his connections.

If you really think its only PULL that can get you an airline job then I suggest you try your luck at something else. Because people like you and others who do not have PULL will not get jobs in your lifetime..
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Just because you and a few friends of yours fail to get in does not mean that everyone who gets it does not deserve to or is employed only because of his connections.
err .. Did I say all those who have got into airlines etc are UNDESERVING ??
ok .. let me be clear ... there are lots of brilliant, hardworking, really intelligent chaps I know flying in airlines. But it was NOT because of their knowledge/talent/skill etc that they got their job. Many of them got it purely because of their TIMING. They all applied for jobs in 2007 and were all hired... and they were all hired along with other RETARDED jacka$$es who can not understand the concept of VORs and NDBs leave along the basics of glass cockpits etc.
These dumb, retards who got hired along with these intelligent chaps did not have connections or big money. They were miraculously lucky to have a CPL at the right time.

The others whom I know are also extremely intelligent. Scored high percentages in 10th, 12th and passed out of college with distinctions. Did their CPL training in USA/Canada within 10 months and cleared DGCA papers in first attempt. Yet, these few intelligent and hardowrking people did NOT get a job because of their knowledge and skill. No airlines were hiring when they applied. (in mid 2008). They got jobs in early 2009 because some of their uncles were minsters or some VP/director in one of the private airlines.

Why does everyone assume that the ones with enormous amounts of cash, and extremely high level connections are all undeserving dumb spoilt kids ??


If you really think its only PULL that can get you an airline job then I suggest you try your luck at something else. Because people like you and others who do not have PULL will not get jobs in your lifetime..
Thanks for your suggestion mate, but I'll hang on for some more time. I mentioned both pull AND PROVIDENCE.
So I guess I'll pray that luck hits me sometime soon.
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what details are you looking for? I will try my best to help you all.
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Shanks is merely repeating what I often tell him; and what I tell him is based on my experience in this field for the past few years.

My actual quote is "Professional pilots are pure products of providence or pull".

I know this sounds at best undigestible to all concerned, whether they're employed or not. The unemployed ones don't want to believe it because it leaves them with very little hope. The employed ones instinctively know it to be true but spend their entire lifetimes shouting themselves hoarse denying it, because it challenges their own stupid sense of false self-esteem.

All of us want a recognition of our own honor, passion, merit and intelligence. While I or you recognize all this, the industry unfortunately does not. When the time comes, the best of them all are all selected side by side with the worst, merely as heads to fill up empty seats; you are NUMBERS with licenses, not men with qualities.

There is NOTHING to distinguish one from the other.
NO special preference or treatment is given to the "good" ones.
They will all get the SAME pay, perks and career growth as the f@#king riffraff rabble in their batch from some f*&king hellhole central Indian desert village who can barely spell his name out, who passed his 12th std in ARTS from a local district board on the 4th attempt after bribing the board, and got fake Physics & Math certificates.

Bottom line: you may be hardworking and capable, but that is not what is going to get you that coveted job.
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Getting back to the topic.

Yes in fact you need to have a background in maths and physics in order to be eligible for a pilot's license. If you've had and passed your maths and physics in 10+2, then you're okay.

But do as much research as you can before starting a course.

MKS
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hey guys,
you all have said that the indian aviation industry is messed up, but can anyone tell by approx which year will things get back to normal or at least start improving??
thanks
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2012 definitely...... coz that's when the world supposedly going to end, and everyone will need an aircraft to escape from the destructive earthquakes and all other natural calamities that follows, Good luck trying to land though.....
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