Vietnam Airlines. Rishworth or Parc Aviation?
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While I am not in Vietnam, Parc pays you by the 25th for the current month you are flying in Korea. Your contract states it is due by the end of the month. You don't have to wait until next month for your money.
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If you join as an F/O what are the chances of eventually moving onto another fleet or a command upgrade?
Abosulutely................NIL
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The only caveat about upgrades I was told about is you had to finish your contract or at least your first one before an upgrade. Then you had to be there at the right place at the right time.
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Finish your first contract, or at least one year of it! My god man, the audacity of some companies to require such things!
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I didn't say finish one year, I said the first one which I meant was the first contract. If you renew as a F/O they might upgrade during that contract. I don't know. That's what I was told by Parc when I was prospecting for a job several years ago.
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I believe the upgrades initially came about to help create incentive for more FO's to join, now that many upgrades have taken place, it's more about supply and demand, and the availability of TRE's.
As far as I'm aware, it has nothing to do with completing a contract, and further more, it won't be mentioned in any contract. It should also be noted that when accepting an opportunity to upgrade, you will effectively be resigning your current position, so if you fail, you will now have to attempt to re-qualify in your previous position at your own expense.
One must be fully prepared.
As far as I'm aware, it has nothing to do with completing a contract, and further more, it won't be mentioned in any contract. It should also be noted that when accepting an opportunity to upgrade, you will effectively be resigning your current position, so if you fail, you will now have to attempt to re-qualify in your previous position at your own expense.
One must be fully prepared.
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If you have to pay for it it is not an upgrade
30 ?
I am not so sure of that, the first 4 was 4 years ago then nothing for a while
Then another 3 of 4 guys from ATR to A320 and I think only 1 completed succesfully
Recently 4 convert from A320 to A330 (1 failed) and they were working in VN since a long time
By the way if you fail you have to pay again to return on your previous aircraft
30 ?
I am not so sure of that, the first 4 was 4 years ago then nothing for a while
Then another 3 of 4 guys from ATR to A320 and I think only 1 completed succesfully
Recently 4 convert from A320 to A330 (1 failed) and they were working in VN since a long time
By the way if you fail you have to pay again to return on your previous aircraft
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If you have to pay for it it is not an upgrade
By the way if you fail you have to pay again to return on your previous aircraft
At that point, I'd say that you'd be lucky to still have a job and should be expected to pay for wasting everyones time.
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there are people there thinking they are ready for an upgrade, but they are not! this statement is valid for some expats and also for some locals!
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this statement is valid for some expats and also for some locals!
An example that comes to mind is a VN 777 F/O who tried to upgrade to Command on the Airbus. He failed and was sent to F/O on the Airbus. However, he did manage to BUY (paid for his 777 recurrency) his way back to F/O on the 777.
Seems to me that things are the "Same Same" for both locals and expats.
Hmmm, not often you'll find that in Asia!
Contrary to what a lot of you may think, Expat does not equal Expert!
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Any caveat in changing agencies?
(Firstly apologies to "Gipsy moth" for cutting in on his thread)
Quick question in a similar vein; I'm an A320 F/O (1300hrs on type) and have been applying to Vietnam Airlines with DPI however I would like to change agencies to Rishworth as my applications never get anywhere with DPI. (I'm fully aware that this may also be the case with Rishworth but that is for a seperate discussion)
Do I understand correctly that all I need to do is obtain a 'letter of release' from DPI in order to switch over?
If so, and this is the part that's causing me the most concern, will Vietnam Airlines look unfavourably on this action? I'd like to change agencies but certainly not at the expense of undermining my chances!
Could anyone offer any insights as to how significant an issue this really is?
Best regards,
Emerald Flyer
Quick question in a similar vein; I'm an A320 F/O (1300hrs on type) and have been applying to Vietnam Airlines with DPI however I would like to change agencies to Rishworth as my applications never get anywhere with DPI. (I'm fully aware that this may also be the case with Rishworth but that is for a seperate discussion)
Do I understand correctly that all I need to do is obtain a 'letter of release' from DPI in order to switch over?
If so, and this is the part that's causing me the most concern, will Vietnam Airlines look unfavourably on this action? I'd like to change agencies but certainly not at the expense of undermining my chances!
Could anyone offer any insights as to how significant an issue this really is?
Best regards,
Emerald Flyer
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will Vietnam Airlines look unfavourably on this action?
Good luck, D.L.
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Thanks Emerald flier! Yeah... I don't think VA has anything to say as long as you pull out of the agency you don't want before the assessment.
Actually I applied with two agencies, I'm just trying to make up my mind before I get my ATPL (soon) . Actually there is a form that we are suppose to sign stating that we are going with whatever agency only. That will be the moment, then I'll stick to the one.
Actually I applied with two agencies, I'm just trying to make up my mind before I get my ATPL (soon) . Actually there is a form that we are suppose to sign stating that we are going with whatever agency only. That will be the moment, then I'll stick to the one.
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failed upgrade to the airbus
there was a local 777 F/O who recently failed the upgrade to a command position on the A-330, but he did not have to pay a cent to come back to the 777. he wanted to stay on the 330 and try again for upgrade next year, but as they are short of F/O's on the 777 he was sent back - for free!