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Old 3rd Jan 2010, 01:41
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155 kts at 4000'... mmmmm. Give them some slack guys.
They're Singaporeans!
Just exactly what do you mean?
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Old 3rd Jan 2010, 05:34
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PK-KAR :Try flying behind Garuda... 210 KIAS below 20,000... but, at times... if say they're held at 7000, and get told to go down to 2000... U'll see them dive @300KIAS or so :o ... the reason being many new FOs I'm told, keep SPD on 210 on the MCP, but select V/S at 3000fpm... *puke*
for sure, you're not being told, you're being bullsh_t !!

saying 210KIAS blo FL200, you better have FOQA record.

do you really have Mach Airspeed indicator ?
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Old 3rd Jan 2010, 16:50
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for sure, you're not being told, you're being bullsh_t !!
Well, if the guys who told me fly under GA/GIA flight numbers, carry GA ID cards who flies PK-G** for a living... is it as you say... bullsh_t?
If I was the following traffic behind, at the same flight level in descent, at 10NM behind, and we had to go to select 210KIAS in order not to converge and later requested to deviate... is it as you say bullsh_t?

Maybe you should talk on your fellow former colleague D___nt__o... if I'm bullsh_tt_ng, then U're mate and his other current and former colleagues are too then...

SPD SEL 210 V/S -3000... welcome to the GA way! It's good that not all of them does it that way, and I hope that includes you.
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Old 4th Jan 2010, 02:47
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safe

Just following policy or atc speed restrictions.

Better safe than sorry.

or else its coffee up on the 4th
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Old 4th Jan 2010, 05:28
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if say they're held at 7000, and get told to go down to 2000... U'll see them dive @300KIAS or so :o ... the reason being many new FOs I'm told, keep SPD on 210 on the MCP, but select V/S at 3000fpm
this is also bullsh_t, after a brief level off with 210 knots, you won't get near 300 knots with 3000 fpm V/S to loose 5000ft, UNLESS you put some N1.

If I was the following traffic behind, at the same flight level in descent, at 10NM behind, and we had to go to select 210KIAS in order not to converge and later requested to deviate... is it as you say bullsh_t
at a certain point .. YES! HE is your traffic, not the other way around.

you don't seem to know flying, boy! let alone current on transport-jet.
there are a lot of fake pilots, don't listen to them.

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Old 4th Jan 2010, 07:48
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This thread is obviously a windup by AOA, NOVMO and FlyingAkhi......
well done for provoking thoughts.... now boys leave the heavy metal flying to us and please please go get proper flying jobs......things are indeed looking up in 2010
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Old 4th Jan 2010, 13:19
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Bravo Slayed Dud

good detective work..... now it's time to go fly for a proper airline
well done for provoking thoughts.... now boys leave the heavy metal flying to us and please please go get proper flying jobs
ClaSSSiC!!!

SSS: Singaporean Superiority-Complex Syndrome

typical
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Old 4th Jan 2010, 21:04
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flying akhi, you nabeh, dont waste everybodys time on this site with your cock. go play with yourself if you have nothing better to do.
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Old 5th Jan 2010, 06:54
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SSS: Singaporean Superiority-Complex Syndrome
I beg to differ.. In my opinion unhappiness or soreness of TS for having to following behind SIA.

I just dislike people who think that they are too good to follow behind someone. If ATC is not complaining? Why should you? If they are really holding up traffic, ATC would request for them to speed up.

Not all Singaporeans have Superiority Complex. And even then. Very few has. So please grow up and stop second guessing..

I guess all of us pilots know that in aviation, ego kills...

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Old 5th Jan 2010, 09:27
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FlyingAkhi.... my location might say singapore... how ever the assumption that I am singaporean is flawed.... not good detective work.....
As for the SSS.... i have yet to meet one....however I admit I suffer a complex

TEPS

The Employed Pilot Syndrome........

again dude..... go get a proper flying job!!!
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Old 5th Jan 2010, 17:40
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Arrogance of a Singapore Resident. (not plural)

Hey, I was just sharing my thoughts on the factors that could be the reason towards your ultra-conservative habits. There's no need to get emotional.
dont waste everybodys time on this site with your cock. go play with yourself if you have nothing better to do.
It does sound fun but you could have suggested that through private message. I would have done it without you telling the whole forum. Now everyone's gonna know. Me shy!!!
I admit I suffer a complex

TEPS

The Employed Pilot Syndrome........

again dude..... go get a proper flying job!!!

I feel like throwing up now. I'd appreciate a Singapore resident's perspective on a PROPER FLYING JOB please?
Honestly I have great admiration for the people who work real hard hoping that one day they could get into an airline. Are they not already doing proper jobs?
Since you went through the whole SIA Cadet Scheme up to the level you are at now, you don't qualify to talk about a PROPER FLYING JOB as all you've done is "play safe and lick ass" your way up.

mmm... arrogant bastards...
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Old 5th Jan 2010, 20:07
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Hi FlyingAkhi,

If you were rejected during your assessment in the past, I recommend to send your application to SIA again. Jokilah is no longer there

Ok-lah, cheers .
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Old 6th Jan 2010, 03:11
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FlyingAkhi..... another incorrect assumption... I was not from the SIA cadet scheme!!!!!! You probably also assumed that I am with SIA.....
If you are indeed an aviator... you would know that assumputions are the biggest mother of all #$%*up!!!!!

again I reiterate: please go get a proper flying job!!! and that doesn't just mean flying in the airlines.... !!!!!!! time to grow up
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Old 7th Jan 2010, 00:26
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230kts at 1500' would be excessive for any airplane at any airport, unless you're making a high speed pass.
Yup, gotta agree.
My trusty TriStar will do 210 knots 'til 5 miles in a pinch, but 230 is stretching it a bit...a big bit.
Sounds like sim retraining bait.
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Old 7th Jan 2010, 01:51
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How did this thread deteriorate so quickly and so thoroughly?

PPRuNe is a mess. My father-in-law brags how he starts threads, for god's sake. He, like many others it seems, is retired, knows absolutely nothing about flying and yet maintains a PPRuNe 'handle'.

There are few pilots left here to contribute. Those that do tear their hair out at the stupidity and lack of logic employed by contributors who have no idea about aviation - in general or in minute detail.

Moderators wax on about how the site needs contributions from non-aviators, which translates to 'we're ineffective at stopping this trend'. To that end, they're right. Which serves to prove by extension that this site fails pilots.

SIA is a fine company, populated by diligent pilots who strive to maintain a high standard. This thread does nothing to reflect that.
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Old 7th Jan 2010, 07:35
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I concur. With the aforementioned post.

Wooblah.
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Old 7th Jan 2010, 09:32
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I am just as guilty for the degeneration... however I concur to reconcur with forementioned post.....
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Old 7th Jan 2010, 10:29
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Well said 4PW, well said indeed. You will have noticed that there is a group who will willingly 'bag' either SIA or Singapore ATC but they rarely come armed with facts!
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Old 8th Jan 2010, 02:28
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There are two modes of establishing our reputation: to be praised by honest men,and to be abused by rogues.
It is best however,to secure the former,because it will invariably be accompanied by the latter.
I think we have seen a little of both here...
Cheers now..
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Old 12th Jan 2010, 01:24
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WTF?

WTF has this whole issue gotta do with Singaporeans being arrogant?

Taking a swing at some nationality only puts yrself and yr countrymen in shame.

Tsk tsk... so juvenile and immature.
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