Filipino pilot wannabee
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Hi and good day to all of you. I would like to seek opinions regarding this matter especially from my kababayan. I am 29 years old, married with one child. Ever since I was a child, I always wanted to be a pilot but my father never really allowed me to. I took up chemical engineering in a well known university in Manila but never finished it because I really don't have interest in it.
Now my question is this, if ever I take up flying courses, will I eventually be able to fly for an airline company even though I'm not a degree holder? Is it too late for me to have this career since I'm already 29 years old?
Now my question is this, if ever I take up flying courses, will I eventually be able to fly for an airline company even though I'm not a degree holder? Is it too late for me to have this career since I'm already 29 years old?
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I sent you a PM.
however 2 quick answers.
1. 29 is not old. If you go on the wannabe forums, you will see guys as old as 40 embarking on training to fulfil a lifelong dream.
2. Degree is not important in places like europe. However in the Philippines, if you want to work in Jolibee they ask for graduate!!!!! weird. So I'm sure PAL would want a degree? ANyone shed light on this?
You are a filipino. You will know more than anyone else that it is not what you know, but who you know. Friends with PAL cheif capt? friends with any senators or congressman?
however 2 quick answers.
1. 29 is not old. If you go on the wannabe forums, you will see guys as old as 40 embarking on training to fulfil a lifelong dream.
2. Degree is not important in places like europe. However in the Philippines, if you want to work in Jolibee they ask for graduate!!!!! weird. So I'm sure PAL would want a degree? ANyone shed light on this?
You are a filipino. You will know more than anyone else that it is not what you know, but who you know. Friends with PAL cheif capt? friends with any senators or congressman?
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There are lots of flying school in the Philippines. You are 29 years old and young to chase your dream. Your college/university units can be considered to continue for a flying career. "Just put your mind over the fence and your heart will follow." Disregard negative comments and pursue whatever you think that is good for you and your family! Happy flying!
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thanks for the reply guys. i think you cannot really enter PAL if you are an undergrad. the first thing in my mind was to enter PAL flying school but they required cadets to be degree holders that's why i ruled that out. my brother graduated as a degree holder in BS flying (?) from Airlink. he is now a flight instructor in one of the flying schools in one of the provinces here. even he is finding it hard to enter CEBU PACIFIC and PAL.
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If you're planning to enter a cadet program with any airline in Asia then 29 is a little bit on the older side and you need to have a college degree. But if you're going to get your ATPL on your own then your age is not a factor. I started my flight training when I was 30 and ten years later I am on the left seat of a 744 flying all over the place.
Go for it!
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I think 29 is not too old to get your dream started but I would suggest that you map out your training path and remain FOCUSED! Get your wife to participate in the planning coz it ont be all too rosy and if she's in with you, that's great. There will be a lot of ups and downs so teamwork will be crucial.
If you eventually would plan to fly in the Phils, I think a degree would come in handy so consider going to night school to complete even a 4 yr degree. Good luck !
If you eventually would plan to fly in the Phils, I think a degree would come in handy so consider going to night school to complete even a 4 yr degree. Good luck !
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Thanks for the replies. Actually I wouldn't really like to fly here. I would like to work for let's say Etihad. do they require college degree holders as well?
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wow..you are asking for too much. maybe not a good thing to say "i dont want to fly (work) here. (Philippines)"
Maybe too premature to make a statement like that..."Pre-Madonna" ( not sure if i spelled this right)
good luck..sincerely
Maybe too premature to make a statement like that..."Pre-Madonna" ( not sure if i spelled this right)
good luck..sincerely
I would like to work for let's say Etihad.
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guys, it's only my dream. hehe
back to my question, if ever let's say you would apply for an international airline? would you need a college degree? thanks
back to my question, if ever let's say you would apply for an international airline? would you need a college degree? thanks
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...I want to work for something like Etihad....
That kind of statement warrants the comments from the other posters. Everybody pays his dues in this industry and to think too big that far ahead prior to your first solo.......well, that's the kind of answers you will get.
Since you are going into aviation, get used to a culture of checklists. As a friendly advise, the most important checklist you need to memorize is - ENGAGE BRAIN BEFORE OPENING MOUTH!
Now to your question about degrees - it's a supply and demand thing. If hiring is really hot, you may be able to get away without a degree but once hiring cools down, you will be competing with guys who not only have bachelor's but sometimes Master's degree. Hope that paints the picture.
Since you are going into aviation, get used to a culture of checklists. As a friendly advise, the most important checklist you need to memorize is - ENGAGE BRAIN BEFORE OPENING MOUTH!
Now to your question about degrees - it's a supply and demand thing. If hiring is really hot, you may be able to get away without a degree but once hiring cools down, you will be competing with guys who not only have bachelor's but sometimes Master's degree. Hope that paints the picture.
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Flying for Etihad
Hehehe. You don't want to work here and you'd rather fly for Etihad. It's like saying you want to race in Formula 1 and you don't even know how to drive a gokart yet.
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Well Guys, lets give him a break. He's a wannabe and very much clueless on what kind of environment he's getting into, much as to the kinds of people he'll bump into once he joins the world of the flying Gentlemens and Ladies.
Vyn, this is just a blow of the wind( a light one). Wait til you dip yourself into the water. Goodluck!
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Vyn, this is just a blow of the wind( a light one). Wait til you dip yourself into the water. Goodluck!
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Well Guys, lets give him a break. He's a wannabe and very much clueless on what kind of environment he's getting into, much as to the kinds of people he'll bump into once he joins the world of the flying Gentlemens and Ladies.
Vyn, this is just a blow of the wind( a light one). Wait til you dip yourself into the water. Goodluck!
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Vyn, this is just a blow of the wind( a light one). Wait til you dip yourself into the water. Goodluck!
C1052
i pretty much get the picture now. thanks guys, you have been a lot of help.
by the way, is yokota flying school any good?
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The difference between 29 y/o and a 65 y/o:
65: I've always wanna be a pilot when i was young...
29: Am I too old to be a pilot?...
My adv to you is to visit your nearest flying school & talk to any CFI. Get an introductory flight then schedule your first ground lesson. Don't think, DO it! If you think, your dead. (ow, i sounded like Tom Cruise) I meant you are wasting your time. I started flying when I was 30. Finally, I'm getting my Multi Commercial next month.
I work fulltime and go to school at night to get my degree. So, yes- you can do the same too if you put your mind into it. Money, Sacrifice, descipline & motivation...That's the key!
Good Luck Pare!
65: I've always wanna be a pilot when i was young...
29: Am I too old to be a pilot?...
My adv to you is to visit your nearest flying school & talk to any CFI. Get an introductory flight then schedule your first ground lesson. Don't think, DO it! If you think, your dead. (ow, i sounded like Tom Cruise) I meant you are wasting your time. I started flying when I was 30. Finally, I'm getting my Multi Commercial next month.
I work fulltime and go to school at night to get my degree. So, yes- you can do the same too if you put your mind into it. Money, Sacrifice, descipline & motivation...That's the key!Good Luck Pare!
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Cessna 1052 said a very important thing - "Wait till you dip yourself in the water".
You don't Choose to work for Etihad, you don't chose to work for Emirates, you don't chose to work for Cathay Pacific. If after training (250hrs) you get 3 interviews at these airlines and get offered a job by all three - you will be the first guy EVER in the world to do that.
You do not choose what airline - they choose you. Be ready to work on a turboprop for a few years earning the same amount as a jeepney driver - whilst at the same time sending 100s of CV's around the world. Then again, if you happen to know the Chief Pilot at PAL - then congratulations! 747-400 from day 1.
Seriously though, here in england, people PAY to work for low cost carriers - like easy Jet/Ryan Air. If they are "lucky" enough to get a job.
Read many posts here on pprune. You will find that finding a job is 100 times more difficult than the Instrument Rating test.
Cessna 1052 said a very important thing - "Wait till you dip yourself in the water".
You don't Choose to work for Etihad, you don't chose to work for Emirates, you don't chose to work for Cathay Pacific. If after training (250hrs) you get 3 interviews at these airlines and get offered a job by all three - you will be the first guy EVER in the world to do that.
You do not choose what airline - they choose you. Be ready to work on a turboprop for a few years earning the same amount as a jeepney driver - whilst at the same time sending 100s of CV's around the world. Then again, if you happen to know the Chief Pilot at PAL - then congratulations! 747-400 from day 1.
Seriously though, here in england, people PAY to work for low cost carriers - like easy Jet/Ryan Air. If they are "lucky" enough to get a job.
Read many posts here on pprune. You will find that finding a job is 100 times more difficult than the Instrument Rating test.
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it is true, that the philippines is short of pilots,
however, it does not mean if u have finished college and finished PPL CPL and IR rating that we can land a job in the airline industry, even if u are a flight instructor with thousands of hours on your belt. it is still hard to land a job in the philippine avaiation industry...
the harsh reality of General Avaiation in the philippines is that most of the time " dapat mey kapit" or u know someone who will help u out in landing a good job in avaition. it is still hard work...
im not hear to discourage aspiring pilots... i am an aspiring pilot myself, using all my call center salary just to finance my flying tuition... to me it is a comitment in knowing what is out there and facing no matter what happens.
knowing all this, if ur still willing to give it a go.... then for me the person who does deserves to be a pilot no matter what aircraft or flying job that would present itself to us in the future...
long live philippine pilots!!!
however, it does not mean if u have finished college and finished PPL CPL and IR rating that we can land a job in the airline industry, even if u are a flight instructor with thousands of hours on your belt. it is still hard to land a job in the philippine avaiation industry...
the harsh reality of General Avaiation in the philippines is that most of the time " dapat mey kapit" or u know someone who will help u out in landing a good job in avaition. it is still hard work...
im not hear to discourage aspiring pilots... i am an aspiring pilot myself, using all my call center salary just to finance my flying tuition... to me it is a comitment in knowing what is out there and facing no matter what happens.
knowing all this, if ur still willing to give it a go.... then for me the person who does deserves to be a pilot no matter what aircraft or flying job that would present itself to us in the future...
long live philippine pilots!!!
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hello. i'm already 36 years old and wants to be a pilot. is there still a chance for me? not that much money for pilot school. any suggestions on how to still fulfill my dream?