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Old 19th Oct 2008, 04:59
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Can anyone tell me where(other than India) someone with 500 hrs of total flight time between the age of 19-25, no previous experience can make $54,000/yr (2 lakhs/month) as a pilot? I can't think of too many places.
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Can anyone tell me where(other than India) someone with 500 hrs of total flight time between the age of 19-25, no previous experience can make $54,000/yr (2 lakhs/month) as a pilot?
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was in kingfisher
everybody made money
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Old 19th Oct 2008, 06:02
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Danger pre determined moves by alliance

as pushpak said in the other thread pilots after all
they fight during good times and also fight when bad times ...here it is in this news

Kingfisher Airlines cuts 90% salaries of trainee pilots- Airlines / Aviation-Transportation-News By Industry-News-The Economic Times

junior pilots want the salaries of seniors also cut , and go by loyalty (years of service)
these negative vibrations and ripples will spread among the alliance at top,that is what they are looking for.
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Old 19th Oct 2008, 12:53
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All b@lls

Initially all jobs came with a probation period, quite like this site. Then due to increased demand, that was shelved. Me thinks that it just started again.

The gripe about senior salaries etc is always present everytime. The guy getting the boot thinls percentage.. i.e if 10% pilots are being sacked, could we not have an arrangement wherein the total salary burden on the company be the same?
Thats is where the unions should come in...If they exist.
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Old 19th Oct 2008, 13:34
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"In fact one could argue that if all the employees worked for free, the company might still lose money and not survive."

yes true, that's when the whole bussiness model is not right. There is a chinese saying, "its better to cut the arm than to suffer the pain for ever"
Thats what Subroto Roy and Gopinath did...sure they must laughing to the bank..thats if they can find a bank in these difficult times...
take care, fly safe.
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Old 19th Oct 2008, 14:47
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Thats what Subroto Roy and Gopinath did...sure they must laughing to the bank
I couldn't agree more!

The two best businessmen, it seems, knew when to get OUT of the business. They may well but back in when the price gets low enough, and the diletanttes get tired of red ink. I'm truly sorry for those who've had their career dented, but the overall machinations are fun to watch like Goyal saying there was no political pressure on him to rescind the layoffs. Yeah, right ...
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Old 20th Oct 2008, 03:26
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Such a big country and you don't find more than 2-3 local guys who really understand what is going on
And this is just the beginning, more fun to come soon - it is so obvious !
Aviation as the most dynamic business, in ancient India, creating a challenging combination
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Old 20th Oct 2008, 04:32
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1.95 laks to 20 thousand !
A NASTY BLOW !

Kingfisher is the only airline where u get to see the pilots who are less important than the Cabin Crew to the management !

Guys any 320 jobs out there ?
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Old 20th Oct 2008, 04:36
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India now being a player in the global market is going to have to grow up.
These seems to be this very socialist attitude with regard to jobs and other entitlements. I am not trying to minimize the agony of a job loss (been there) but people have to understand that a company cannot continue to employ people if it feels it is affecting its ability to survive and maintain profitability. To say, I just took out a loan to buy a house, sisters marriage, sole breadwinnner etc etc and so the company should not lay me off is quite an approach. Then if they won't take me back let me visit the local mentally disturbed Hindu radical leader for help. If that does not work then the Govt has to step it and take care of everything. Especially since I don't want to be laid off because of the holidays.

What Jet did from a PR standpoint was piss poor. They should have stopped hiring months ago. Or else they could have easily laid off 100 folks every month, and it would not have caused such a stir. Guess what, they probably will get rid of most of these folks who think they have their jobs back. How? any minor problem (tie crooked, hair out of place) and out they go.

Lets see a Goyal, Gupta or Agarwal who isn't about economics? That's a new one.
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Old 20th Oct 2008, 05:49
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well said NGFELLOW.... I wonder how much this radical poltical leader has invested in the airline business.Will he come to the rescue if the airlines goes under.
What a twit...
History repeating, remember East West, Modiluft, Damania,Vayudoot and NEPC...
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Old 21st Oct 2008, 05:39
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In between all this I heard that F...Head Gopinath wanted to buy back Deccan again.He must be living in LaLa Land.It's time the govt. tell him to sit at home and enjoy the millions he made rather come back and spoil the party again.
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Old 22nd Oct 2008, 08:08
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merger effects

merger of king+jet
route rationalisation
cutting flights.
return/lease out extra a/cs.

route rationalisation on domestic sectors means
narrow body pilots are more affected than widebody pilots flying 777/330s
widebody jobs are safer.
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Old 22nd Oct 2008, 08:12
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I wonder how much this radical poltical leader has invested in the airline business.Will he come to the rescue if the airlines goes under.
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what it appears is dirty politics. money game.
politicians/money/power...........................
and money has no religion.
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Old 26th Oct 2008, 18:07
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A 320 Openings

IndiGo is still open to A320 PIC recruitment. They are inducting aircrafts as well as Captains.
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Five months after Jet Airways and Kingfisher Airlines came together to save operational costs, CNBC-TV18 learns that the alliance has not progressed much. Both carriers continue to fly separately on same domestic routes, with different set of crew — on-board and on-ground — and most importantly, at the same time.



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