B767 ANA or Emirites?
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I've never worked at either, but I'll offer my opinion.
Are you going in as a DEC or FO?
Tax and Visa:
EK gives you a place to live and tax free money.
AJV gets you neither.
Health Insurance:
EK free for you, small fee for your family. ( a friend pays $100 per month)
AJV free for you, and $700 per month for your family. (for me anyways)
Days off:
EK while not consecutive, 14 days per month seems the norm. (Boeing buddies tell me)
AJV 11 consecutive days off.
Vacation:
EK 42 days per year.
AJV 24 days per year. Sounds like most guys take 2 per month and add them to the 11 to make 13 per month.
Pass travel:
EK some on EK no ID90s
AJV ID90 on Star Alliance
Living in states and commuting:
EK nope.
AJV the only option. (i heard some are working on getting a visa to live in japan at their own expense)
Equipment and upgrade:
EK 240 new airframes on order, and 3-4 year upgrades
AJV several new 767F on order and about 4 year upgrade
Long term money:
EK yearly bonus, and provident fund. (hard to put a real number on this one)
AJV FO end contract $18,000 CA $30,000 and 5-800 per month into a retirement fund.
Short term money:
EK as FO about $80,000 per year tax free. CA about $150,000 tax free.
AJV as FO $90-100,000 per year taxed at about 28%. CA about $150,000 taxed.
Hosties:
EK yep, lots of em
AJV none.
Not sure about exact numbers, these are just the best I can recall and gather.
Other will have exact numbers.
It comes down to your willingness to move or commute. If you are married, can she handle living in a foreign country like UAE?
I would personally prefer EK, but my wife prefers AJV. We settled for SKYW.(no change)
good luck.
Are you going in as a DEC or FO?
Tax and Visa:
EK gives you a place to live and tax free money.
AJV gets you neither.
Health Insurance:
EK free for you, small fee for your family. ( a friend pays $100 per month)
AJV free for you, and $700 per month for your family. (for me anyways)
Days off:
EK while not consecutive, 14 days per month seems the norm. (Boeing buddies tell me)
AJV 11 consecutive days off.
Vacation:
EK 42 days per year.
AJV 24 days per year. Sounds like most guys take 2 per month and add them to the 11 to make 13 per month.
Pass travel:
EK some on EK no ID90s
AJV ID90 on Star Alliance
Living in states and commuting:
EK nope.
AJV the only option. (i heard some are working on getting a visa to live in japan at their own expense)
Equipment and upgrade:
EK 240 new airframes on order, and 3-4 year upgrades
AJV several new 767F on order and about 4 year upgrade
Long term money:
EK yearly bonus, and provident fund. (hard to put a real number on this one)
AJV FO end contract $18,000 CA $30,000 and 5-800 per month into a retirement fund.
Short term money:
EK as FO about $80,000 per year tax free. CA about $150,000 tax free.
AJV as FO $90-100,000 per year taxed at about 28%. CA about $150,000 taxed.
Hosties:
EK yep, lots of em
AJV none.
Not sure about exact numbers, these are just the best I can recall and gather.
Other will have exact numbers.
It comes down to your willingness to move or commute. If you are married, can she handle living in a foreign country like UAE?
I would personally prefer EK, but my wife prefers AJV. We settled for SKYW.(no change)
good luck.
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Days off:
EK while not consecutive, 14 days per month seems the norm. (Boeing buddies tell me)
AJV 11 consecutive days off.
EK - right now the 777 is over staffed due to 2-4 777 sitting at boeing, so good days off. should change soon, management do not want pilots to have too many days off.
Pass travel:
EK some on EK no ID90s
AJV ID90 on Star Alliance
EK - ZED on lots of airlines, after 6 months
Equipment and upgrade:
EK 240 new airframes on order, and 3-4 year upgrades
AJV several new 767F on order and about 4 year upgrade
EK - at present 116 airplanes, 2013/14 - 196 and 2020 will be 220, yes lots of new stuff coming but lots of old leaving , you do the math upgrades now 4 years and will just keep getting longer, 12 years for the fleet to double
EK while not consecutive, 14 days per month seems the norm. (Boeing buddies tell me)
AJV 11 consecutive days off.
EK - right now the 777 is over staffed due to 2-4 777 sitting at boeing, so good days off. should change soon, management do not want pilots to have too many days off.
Pass travel:
EK some on EK no ID90s
AJV ID90 on Star Alliance
EK - ZED on lots of airlines, after 6 months
Equipment and upgrade:
EK 240 new airframes on order, and 3-4 year upgrades
AJV several new 767F on order and about 4 year upgrade
EK - at present 116 airplanes, 2013/14 - 196 and 2020 will be 220, yes lots of new stuff coming but lots of old leaving , you do the math upgrades now 4 years and will just keep getting longer, 12 years for the fleet to double
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Ek / Ana
Well I have worked for BOTH!
I would recommend that you at least learn how to spell "Emirates" before you try to interview....
Lil Bro, your info is a bit off, especially regarding pay.
Simply put, I left EK to have monthly time at home in the USA. Other then missing the 777 and the destinations we flew to in EK, I have no regrets.
Both jobs have pros and cons, and offer two totally different lifestyles. Choose to pursue the one that suits your situation.
PM if you have specific questions.
BC
Capt. AJV
I would recommend that you at least learn how to spell "Emirates" before you try to interview....
Lil Bro, your info is a bit off, especially regarding pay.
Simply put, I left EK to have monthly time at home in the USA. Other then missing the 777 and the destinations we flew to in EK, I have no regrets.
Both jobs have pros and cons, and offer two totally different lifestyles. Choose to pursue the one that suits your situation.
PM if you have specific questions.
BC
Capt. AJV
