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Old 14th Mar 2008, 15:01
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Danger No expat FOs in India from 1st June 2008

I just found out today. As part of the program to phase out expat pilots in India, the DGCA has decided not to validate any non-Indian licence for co-pilots (captains are still fine) after the 1st June 2008.

Actually, those FOs who already have a validate licence and are flying in India right now, the validation will expire automatically on the 31st May 2008.

I wonder when they plan to kick the captains out and who is going to fly their aircraft after that... I suppose that there are enough flight schools in India then....

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Old 14th Mar 2008, 15:39
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Where did you hear that validations will expire on May 31st?
As far as I knew, expat FO won´t join any Indian carrier from June the 1st, but the ones that are flying here already, will last until their validation expires. But not a forced expiry!

Have the Indian Govt or DGCA measured the impact this new law will have on Indian carriers if they forced them to comply with it right now??

Or..is it just a matter of money???..you know..
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there is now a surplus of local CPL holding guys who need priority to get jobs...just like rest of the wrold locals need to fill in the jobs first...
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Old 14th Mar 2008, 21:01
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Does this rule comply with corportate section as well (bizjet)?. I have been interviewd for a Co pilot position and upgrade to captain position fast due to my high total time.

I guess that will never happen now when they will comply this rule.

Anyway,

Good luck
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only applicable to airlines not for biz jet guys
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Left wing, where do you get your information? How do you know bizjet side is exempt?
Nothing found on DGCA site....as usual
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Old 15th Mar 2008, 14:11
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Yeah heard about it today.Feel sorry for some of the guys as they've spent a lot of money for their ratings,hope they get in somewhere....funny system in India...always wondered how they allow Indian guys to fly in command on a FATA...isn't that a violation of the law...
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Old 17th Mar 2008, 11:59
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which law?

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which law you are reffering to?
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Old 17th Mar 2008, 12:36
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well for starters it's a violation of the spirit of the Indian Aircraft Act 1934 and The Aircraft Rules 1937 on which the present CAR is based ...wherein FATA stands for Foreign Aircrew Temporary Approval..which mentions that it's a temporary/conditional approval given to foreign nationals to operate Indian registered aircraft when no such Indian national is available...secondly its a violation of the Indian Labour Law...now that would require a lot of digging in from my part if you want specifics but I guess that should answer your question...
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Old 17th Mar 2008, 18:00
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well for starters it's a violation of the spirit of the Indian Aircraft Act 1934 and The Aircraft Rules 1937 on which the present CAR is based ...wherein FATA stands for Foreign Aircrew Temporary Approval..which mentions that it's a temporary/conditional approval given to foreign nationals to operate Indian registered aircraft when no such Indian national is available...secondly its a violation of the Indian Labour Law...now that would require a lot of digging in

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not much digging required only read Indian Aircraft Act 1934 and The Aircraft Rules 1937 on which the present CAR is based ...very carefully

D.G. is final authority
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Old 18th Mar 2008, 01:23
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ok..but tell me which part of them to read...very carefully....as far as I know both of them were framed under the preview of the Indian government/parliament ...DG cannont frame rules in independance....that's why the saying NO IS ABOVE THE LAW....unless of course on your planet things are a bit different...
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reading and understanding

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need to read all....there are no parts
read 10 times if still not understood 11 times
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Has been mentioned that it only "may" apply to Expats on Domestic services not International.?????
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Old 24th Mar 2008, 11:04
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Wow a Spanish PIO....man where else is there left for an Indian to conquer...but yes technically you can do it..you first need to write to the DGCA explaining your background and apply to write the exams...once you've cleared the exams and the medical you can hold an Indian licence...and then start applying for a job.....welcome home Amigo......
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I just did a screening with Kingfisher on the 19Mar and nobody new anything. The instructor was a class act. If I cant go as a F/O I hope to go as a capt in the future.
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Who the hell wants to work there anyway?
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The 2 yr rule is out the door. you have to convert to Indian licenses and then check with individual airlines about their individual policies.

You will be hired as a local on local terms provided the particular airline hires PIOs/OCIs.

For once the DGCA actual does something to benefit the local populace.
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Old 25th Mar 2008, 13:40
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yeah the way to go is to convert your licence...but you need to talk to the DGCA and to the airlines as well....
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Old 25th Mar 2008, 20:27
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Dont do it. Bribing somebody to get your license may sound appealing but by doing so , you are only hurting the country and others (like myself) who are trying to convert the correct way.


This type of corruption must stop ,it is our responsibility as Indians to curb corruption, only then can we truly achieve progress.
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Old 26th Mar 2008, 16:05
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If getting a job is more important than your integrity ,go for it.

As for your conversion go to www.dgca.nic.in and look for the conversion flow chart.

go to amazon.com and get the Ground Studies for pilots series aand that should be a good place to start.
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