Korean Air Interview Profile

[Barney Rock]

Corruption and riff raffs

2008, 12:50 #108 Geragau

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: UAE
Posts: 51


Quote:
If they did that, most would leave after a couple years having the type and a couple thousand hours command under their belt and not finish the contract, and Korean Air ain't that dumb
Guess KAL administration was and is still dumb; heard from previous KAL employees of good standing in the sandpit that KAL was duped by some South African B737 skippers masquerading as B744 skippers ( with only cruise pilot time ). They are still being duped by dodgy folks from dodgy outfits trying their luck with non rated B777/744 skipper ratings. Hard to believe but I was told by good authority to be very true!

Aha, the dodgy folks from apartheid land had great help from an internal Korean source............a corrupt flight admin manager by the name of edkim, who was later sacked! However the manpower and flight ops divisions could not live down the loss of face and nobody squeaked to the KMOCT; so the Boers are still happily driving the 744s and feeling smug that the fooled everybody besides thinking that they must have been really good to progressed impressively from lowly cruise captains to jumbo mahouts!

[Molokai]

How would you know if you had not been a KAL insider ? Are you the infamous canuck Bill that many of the kimchi boys talk about?
I heard many strange things went on during the late 90s in KAL, the gloomy days when they had crashes after crashes! Well it seem that have really done well..................no major prangs for almost a decade.

[cactusbusdrvr]

Thanks for the info, Tom.

[saviboy]

I am not familiar with contract work.\\\

If the contract is supposed to last 5 years, does that mean I not free to take another job during the 5 years. can i break the contract.
are there any penalties?

thanks

[tom744]

saviboy,

in this case ( KAL ) you can resign 1 year after check out.
If you do before they impose a 15000 US$ penalty for the training costs.

[775454]

Hi Tom,
I am sked for an interview for 777 Capt. Am typed with
over a 1000 hrs in type. And currently working. Are the KAL rules that much different from Boeing proc? Why a 3 month training course?

Thanks

[fullforward]

Hi 775454

Are you really serious about about risking your present job for the sad lottery KAL was transformed?
Please read some hundreds of posts around here...
Just my two cents.

[wakarandi]

¿Where does the A330 flyes?

I would like to know wich lines are covered by the A330. Thank you!

[AQFlyer]

Making the grade...

To all who complain endlessly here about the unfair treatment you have received, and for those who wonder what all the complaining is about, please read the following. If you didn't make it through the training, you didn't deserve to. You may be the best pilot the world has ever seen, but if you can't comply with the Korean way, you WILL NOT survive the training. Attitude is everything. You must fly well, but if your attitude is poor, your training experience will also be poor and you will fail. I have seen so many of you come and go from KAL, and other Asian carriers. When you commit to flying here in Asia, you MUST leave the mentality of your home country behind. You are not in Kansas anymore! Come with the attitude that you know nothing about procedures for the aircraft you fly, and follow those given to you by KAL. Do not quote Boeing procedures either. You are flying for KAL, not your former carrier, or Boeing. Fifty percent of the battle is compliance. If you fly well, you have the other fifty percent licked. I apologize if I have bruised any egos, but the majority of the tales of woe I read here, don't reveal the real, or whole truth. For those of you who are here to get information to better make a decision about coming to Asia, read the sim/interview profile info and skip those that have nothing good to say. For the most part, this site is a place where those who THINK they have been wronged, come to bitch and moan. I have many friends here at KAL, none of whom are unhappy. It is what you make of it.

Cheers

[Capt.Bee]

AQFlyer

AQFlyer:
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hawaii, USA
Posts: 13 Take home pay
"Skymark 737-800 Captain, 1st year, $13,200 USD per month. This includes housing and living money and a little extra because I get paid in JPY and the dollar has been weak. If all the currencies were equal, I am guaranteed $12,500 per month. It's the best contract in the World! "

You are small potato buddy. If you get the drift....

"If you didn't make it through the training, you didn't deserve to."

Once again big words, coming from a small mind.
Overall: live well in your small content world /you are the best/ and don't make statements, when you are not qualified to.

[Sitting Bull]

Gentlemen:

Does anyone what

1. the CURRENT selection A330 Sim scenario looks like?

2. type of A330 technical questions are CURRENTLY being asked?

I'd appreciate your help.

Thanks

[cactusbusdrvr]

Are there any updates on the KAL interview and sim profiles?

[portquartercv67]

Regardless the fleet, most guys make it through the program, albiet not without some bruises. However, it seems that monthly someone in training doesn't make it. Heard that recently a 330 Captain was fired, without a second chance, same for a 777 Captain. The KAL flagwavers will say it was the pilot's fault, the KAL bashers will say it was the company. The truth lies somewhere in the middle, closer to the side of KAL bashers in my opinion. The 330 Captain in question was an IP on the a/c for years at his previous airline (Asian). Hard to believe he became senile after arriving in ICN. Maybe allergic to kimchi?

[BlackWater01]

2009 up-date

anybody has some 2009 up-date on
KAL recruiting process (when,where,what,why,whatever!),
KAL way of behavin with western FO;
KAL capabilities on up-grades western FO in Cpt;
KAL benefit;
KAL western basing possibilities
KAL pay rate FP/Cpt

[capt777chris]

Thought I'd send this, it came from a friend: Without putting his job on the line suffice it to say this is very recent.

"yes I take my casa oral tomorrow, and my line check friday..Its been hell..The failure rate here is outrageous. It is not the fault of the pilots in training, but the system of training itself."

[BuzzLightyears]

Hey Chris

so you are one of the few lucky guys being able to survive so far!

...

[capt777chris]

No I was too old at "under age 58" for their captain position. And too few brain cells to memorize everything for F/O. Not to mention unwilling to downgrade to F/O for the money and not having the correct anatomy for the left seat.

[BuzzLightyears]

... but what do you think of KAL according to your direct experience with them! ... reading all the post can be really disoriented if you are looking to find same positive information for your first airline employment (and of course as a FO)!

thanks Chris

[batsky2000]

Hello to the KAL guys, I have an interview for a B737 PIC position in April through CCL and have a few questions about how the contract works to those who are in the know.

I am currently flying a BBJ, G-IV, and a Challenger for a private company that is shutting down their flight department like most of them here in the US. I have 1500 hours as a PIC on the BBJ. I was laid off from Delta way back in 2001 and have not been interested in working for an airline again, but the KAL contarct is rather appealing to me. I would get more time off than I get now, and I enjoy flying in Asia, and have experience in that part of the world.

1) What is the schedule like while you are on duty? Is it 6 on 1 off or something else? How are the schedules built? Do you get a reserve line for a bit, or do you get a real line right off the bat?

2) I plan to take the 11 days off option, how many days do they give you to commute? I will be using ATL as my base, and heard that you get 3 days, 2 to travel to work, a 1 to get home, but just want to get the real number from someone who knows.

3) I understand that they put you up at the Hyatt while at base, what types of ammenities do they offer if any? Do you guys get free breakfast, free internet? The Internet would be the best freebe

4) Does the company issue a cell phone for company use, or do you need to get one yourself? How do they normally contact you?

5) Who pays for the business class tickets? Does the cotractor (CCL) in my case pay for the ticket, or does KAL put you on a positive space business class ticket to/from your base? I ask this because I am interested if you guys collect FF miles, I am platinum medalion on Delta with about 900,000 miles in my account and am just wondering since KAL is a skyteam member. This would be a huge bonus to this contract, if not are there ways to get the miles?

Thanks for the answers in advance

[johntrav69]

batsky - already answered on the Korean thread to save those delicate typing fingers!