Great Wall Airlines - Shanghai
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Oasis guys will not take the bait. They have ex-SIA London-based guys, who know what's going on in GWA. We have many Londoners who know what's going on in GWA.
'James Dean' legendary Oasis guys......have too many options, but not GWA. Jade would be more appealing, offering short term to long term contract. Most importantly, Jade do not have release letters issues when pilots resigned, as what is happening in GWA.
And we westerners do not take snakes and crabs, especially cooked by Singapore Python.
'James Dean' legendary Oasis guys......have too many options, but not GWA. Jade would be more appealing, offering short term to long term contract. Most importantly, Jade do not have release letters issues when pilots resigned, as what is happening in GWA.
And we westerners do not take snakes and crabs, especially cooked by Singapore Python.
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Aww... c'mon guys, don't say all that. Postman would be great for AOGWL - he'd love it here. Can't y'all give him a better welcome than this??? 
PS - Sentinel. Re Chopper ratings, you want Part 1 or Part 2 ratings? Don't forget to tell us all how your "checkride" went ok?
PS - Sentinel. Re Chopper ratings, you want Part 1 or Part 2 ratings? Don't forget to tell us all how your "checkride" went ok?
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Do you remember the snaky circular issued to the flight crew about some RMB 20,000 being offered to anyone who successfully recruit a Captain. Wonder how the Transmile drivers or others feel about that? Never before MLM styled recruitment plan been practised in this way. Would the recruiters who might be management pilots or instructors terminate a new recruit who would not meet safety standards? 
How would the Chinese tax department view the commission earned? Never heard of any "fa piao" (official receipt) catered for such tax relief yet.
I am very concerned to fly with a weak Captain who got hired and cleared by the recruiters.
How would the Chinese tax department view the commission earned? Never heard of any "fa piao" (official receipt) catered for such tax relief yet.
I am very concerned to fly with a weak Captain who got hired and cleared by the recruiters.
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fly744,
The release letter issue has nothing to do with SIA. The release letter issue is because of Singapore Python Link wanting to nail Poor Chap down.
Apparently, poor chap's long sufferings has surfaced due to his resignations. Singapore Python's face has no where to hide. In order to take revenge, he has come out with this idea. Along the way, he persuaded his comrades, Killer Python and HR mgr, to plan this conspiracy.
Look at Jade, they are not doing these to their expatriates who resign and jump ship to other Chinese airlines. In fact, none of the other Chinese airlines are holding expatriates back, with the threat of not issuing release letters, when the expatriates want to jump ship to other Chinese airlines. China CAA certainly wants to attract expatriates. It will be to their disadvantage in attracting foreigners.
Singapore Python uses his usual techniques. He conspires with his comrades, telling everyone within his arena this story of release letter before the poor chap can be released. Of course, once again, there are people who are his followers, including some blind followers. They, now believe that the release letter is a must.
Of course, the law does not state so. And the CAAC does not recommend that. No companies would want to do this to expatriate pilots except Great Wall, except Singapore Python.
Sentinel,
Get your P1 & P2 ratings opposite intercon hotel along ZhangYang Lu.
Remember to wear pitot cover.
The release letter issue has nothing to do with SIA. The release letter issue is because of Singapore Python Link wanting to nail Poor Chap down.
Apparently, poor chap's long sufferings has surfaced due to his resignations. Singapore Python's face has no where to hide. In order to take revenge, he has come out with this idea. Along the way, he persuaded his comrades, Killer Python and HR mgr, to plan this conspiracy.
Look at Jade, they are not doing these to their expatriates who resign and jump ship to other Chinese airlines. In fact, none of the other Chinese airlines are holding expatriates back, with the threat of not issuing release letters, when the expatriates want to jump ship to other Chinese airlines. China CAA certainly wants to attract expatriates. It will be to their disadvantage in attracting foreigners.
Singapore Python uses his usual techniques. He conspires with his comrades, telling everyone within his arena this story of release letter before the poor chap can be released. Of course, once again, there are people who are his followers, including some blind followers. They, now believe that the release letter is a must.
Of course, the law does not state so. And the CAAC does not recommend that. No companies would want to do this to expatriate pilots except Great Wall, except Singapore Python.
Sentinel,
Get your P1 & P2 ratings opposite intercon hotel along ZhangYang Lu.
Remember to wear pitot cover.
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Wool over the eyes
Akistar,
You prefaced everyone of your post with
"Heard from my mates in SG", "From the grapevine in SQ", "From my SQ pals" etc ,etc.
However, the contents of your post show such intimate details and are often full of venom and spite; as if you have a personal interest in Great Wall.
C'mon, you cannot be a disinterested party from London. You are much closer than that.
You prefaced everyone of your post with
"Heard from my mates in SG", "From the grapevine in SQ", "From my SQ pals" etc ,etc.
However, the contents of your post show such intimate details and are often full of venom and spite; as if you have a personal interest in Great Wall.
C'mon, you cannot be a disinterested party from London. You are much closer than that.
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people are seeing through the masks here. people pretending to be somone else.
this is my honest to goodness opinion with gwl. you will enjoy it there and be successful if:
- you like licking your bosses a$$
- you like drinking with your boss, pretending you like him
- you like going to girlie bars
- you like to twist the facts
- you llike to do cover-ups
- willing to sell your soul for a management position
- willing to backstab everybody to get what you want
- willing to use everybody/manipulate everybody to get what you want
- if you can live with all the suspiscions that people are selling you out
- willing throw all your beliefs, principles and morality out the window
this is the culture promoted by the Singapore Phyton. and his so-called loyal pilots who were all promised a management post when they were being recruited.
now, gwl is not a bad airline. it is the Singapore Phython and his people who are making it bad. it has a lot of potentials. if and when the snakes (Singapore Phyton and Junior Phython) leaves together with their henchmen, things will be better.
one more thing, i can't believe that the Singapore Phyton is still saying that the flight pay is tax free. that is what i call a deliberate lie. ask anybody in gwl and they will tell you that is a complete lie told to them during the recruitment phase.
if you want to join gwl, wait until the Singapore Phyton is completely out of the picture. you will then enjoy it there even if you are not one of those mentioned above.
this is my honest to goodness opinion with gwl. you will enjoy it there and be successful if:
- you like licking your bosses a$$
- you like drinking with your boss, pretending you like him
- you like going to girlie bars
- you like to twist the facts
- you llike to do cover-ups
- willing to sell your soul for a management position
- willing to backstab everybody to get what you want
- willing to use everybody/manipulate everybody to get what you want
- if you can live with all the suspiscions that people are selling you out
- willing throw all your beliefs, principles and morality out the window
this is the culture promoted by the Singapore Phyton. and his so-called loyal pilots who were all promised a management post when they were being recruited.
now, gwl is not a bad airline. it is the Singapore Phython and his people who are making it bad. it has a lot of potentials. if and when the snakes (Singapore Phyton and Junior Phython) leaves together with their henchmen, things will be better.
one more thing, i can't believe that the Singapore Phyton is still saying that the flight pay is tax free. that is what i call a deliberate lie. ask anybody in gwl and they will tell you that is a complete lie told to them during the recruitment phase.
if you want to join gwl, wait until the Singapore Phyton is completely out of the picture. you will then enjoy it there even if you are not one of those mentioned above.
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Hi there,
Just one question; if it is so bad why you are still with GW??
With so many airlines hiring and so many jobs for B744, I do not understand
Gengis1/2 are you F/O's?
Just one question; if it is so bad why you are still with GW??
With so many airlines hiring and so many jobs for B744, I do not understand
Gengis1/2 are you F/O's?
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Dear Ulaula,
I am sorry that we have reported you. God has taken revenge on us. We certainly would not dare to meet you in Hong Kong.....
One of the reasons we are stuck in Greatwall.
I am sorry that we have reported you. God has taken revenge on us. We certainly would not dare to meet you in Hong Kong.....
One of the reasons we are stuck in Greatwall.
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Hi Ulaula,
What a direct hit you made,
and I was having the same suspicion myself.
Lot of jobs out there....it does not have to be in China.....as U have
rightly mentioned. Why are these few still under the Great Wall payroll.
My Buddy in GWL told me so far there were 3 who left
1) AN Ex SQ Guy who is close to retirement and wants to be close to home.
He is now back in SQCargo in his last couple of years remaining.
2) An Eastern Block Guy who finds that commuting to the USA is too hectic
and he quit a couple of months back. His family live in the US.
3) An Ex management who has his ego shattered after being ask to leave his management post.Thats a big paycut as well for him...was told his one of the pioneers who earns the top bracket pay....
A piece of advice for Gengis .Gengis2, Ops Spec & akistar....
Pretty obvious the 4 of you enjoys BICKERING ..BITCHING...& SLANDERING..
Just do not know what U have got against the airline.
There are fellow pilots who wants to earn a decent living over in Shanghai.
Some who left reputed and established airlines to see a little bit of
China and with a little more juice...
Was told the they have 1 month BONUS coming at the end of July 08.
They were also given a 4.8% pay rise effective 1st Jan 08.
Is it really that bad?????
Cum'.. on.....Guys....
Give them a break....... those who are happy and contented and to those potential joiners..
ASHTi
What a direct hit you made,
and I was having the same suspicion myself.
Lot of jobs out there....it does not have to be in China.....as U have
rightly mentioned. Why are these few still under the Great Wall payroll.
My Buddy in GWL told me so far there were 3 who left
1) AN Ex SQ Guy who is close to retirement and wants to be close to home.
He is now back in SQCargo in his last couple of years remaining.
2) An Eastern Block Guy who finds that commuting to the USA is too hectic
and he quit a couple of months back. His family live in the US.
3) An Ex management who has his ego shattered after being ask to leave his management post.Thats a big paycut as well for him...was told his one of the pioneers who earns the top bracket pay....
A piece of advice for Gengis .Gengis2, Ops Spec & akistar....
Pretty obvious the 4 of you enjoys BICKERING ..BITCHING...& SLANDERING..
Just do not know what U have got against the airline.
There are fellow pilots who wants to earn a decent living over in Shanghai.
Some who left reputed and established airlines to see a little bit of
China and with a little more juice...
Was told the they have 1 month BONUS coming at the end of July 08.
They were also given a 4.8% pay rise effective 1st Jan 08.
Is it really that bad?????
Cum'.. on.....Guys....
Give them a break....... those who are happy and contented and to those potential joiners..
ASHTi
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As expat driver has descibed, people are selling their souls to promote the goodness of greatwall airlines.
ShiHuangTi, it is an insult to the first emperor of China.
You are either the soul seller, or your pal in greatwall is the soul seller.
Again we are not telling people not to join. In fact, we are very short. However, we feel that we need to tell the outside world the facts.
The 3 persons has left...that is not the exact number. Why do you want to give fictatious number.
Let's start the list .... LP, Hi, 2 thais, 2 Indo, 1 Phili, 1 Airasia, 1 flying club,1 Singapore, 1 US, 1 magt pilot, 1 fatty, 1 Poor chap, ...
more to come ......
Could you kindly count...14....
And how many do greatwall has now...about 20 , the rest are borrowed
The three persons that you described did not leave due to the reasons you so vaguely described.
ShiHuangTi, it is an insult to the first emperor of China.
You are either the soul seller, or your pal in greatwall is the soul seller.
Again we are not telling people not to join. In fact, we are very short. However, we feel that we need to tell the outside world the facts.
The 3 persons has left...that is not the exact number. Why do you want to give fictatious number.
Let's start the list .... LP, Hi, 2 thais, 2 Indo, 1 Phili, 1 Airasia, 1 flying club,1 Singapore, 1 US, 1 magt pilot, 1 fatty, 1 Poor chap, ...
more to come ......
Could you kindly count...14....
And how many do greatwall has now...about 20 , the rest are borrowed
The three persons that you described did not leave due to the reasons you so vaguely described.
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regarding expatdriver post
gengis 1 and 2: is this your character:
- you like licking your bosses a$$
- you like drinking with your boss, pretending you like him
- you like going to girlie bars
- you like to twist the facts
- you llike to do cover-ups
- willing to sell your soul for a management position
- willing to backstab everybody to get what you want
- willing to use everybody/manipulate everybody to get what you want
- if you can live with all the suspiscions that people are selling you out
- willing throw all your beliefs, principles and morality out the window
I can understand line 3, but the rest....
Give us a break,please.
gengis 1 and 2: is this your character:
- you like licking your bosses a$$
- you like drinking with your boss, pretending you like him
- you like going to girlie bars
- you like to twist the facts
- you llike to do cover-ups
- willing to sell your soul for a management position
- willing to backstab everybody to get what you want
- willing to use everybody/manipulate everybody to get what you want
- if you can live with all the suspiscions that people are selling you out
- willing throw all your beliefs, principles and morality out the window
I can understand line 3, but the rest....
Give us a break,please.
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Hello Python, if you are indeed the same person, hows your brother in the Singapore Gestapo ? (Government)
And i'm sure you can do better than hello, unless you are a fake!!
And i'm sure you can do better than hello, unless you are a fake!!
