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Old 3rd Sep 2007, 05:58
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ESOS and bonus

I heard that the MAS management is trying to placate the disenchanted with 1/2 month's bonus...real bread crumbs indeed!
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Old 3rd Sep 2007, 07:39
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Hmmmm......mind show us the source of this?
See quarterly reports since Iris took charge end DEC 2005.

Look in airlines websites.
Example:
http:// www.malaysiaairlines.com/getdoc/6c5d55b4-85ec-424f-9ade-86cda1120d49/Malaysia-Airlines---Q207-Bursa-Announcement.aspx

Read the spins in the papers. Or look at the numbers. Free to choose.

Operating revenue (3,496,508,000) minus the operating expenses (3,502,389,000) is the operating profit or loss.

Actually, profit from sale of aircraft (8,292,000) , sale of properties (34,282,000) and discontinued operation (37,476,000) make up the 80,050,000.

Oooops! there goes the esos bubble.

This is not a recommendation to buy or sell
This is only a second amateur opinion
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Old 8th Sep 2007, 09:26
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Things are probably not looking up. There was a recent tragic death of a young pilot; maybe the depressing mood in the company did not help at all as he considered his tragic move!
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Old 9th Sep 2007, 04:37
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Alvin Goh tragedy

Jaguh, the whole rot in MAS certainly does not help anyone at all. It probably figured a lot in Alvin's darkest moments. May he rest in peace and harmony. Most sincere condolences to the family and friends who has definitely lost a great guy in their lives.
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Old 9th Sep 2007, 09:47
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Paishinel's news of 1/2 month's bonus, is that true? Gee, I gather that's better than the ex-gratia fiasco we used to get previously.

As for Alvin, it is indeed a sad day. I understand from certain sources that he was just getting his first command. Pray that he truly rest in peace.
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Old 11th Sep 2007, 12:30
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Alvin Goh...

I did not know him personally but such a tragedy reflects the psych of the remaining MAS pilots. Totally demoralised and totally helpless in light of poor working conditions and perhaps poor renumerations and lack of progress in the MOU of the remaining pilots.
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Old 11th Sep 2007, 18:43
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Alvin Goh

But whatever it is,if he is truly depressed and frustrated with MAS,hey it's globalisation era,a wide-opened job market out there!!He did not need to stick with MAS and endure the suffering
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Old 15th Sep 2007, 02:07
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Hi, no one is suggesting that pilot woes in MAS figure prominently on Alvin's mind leading to his sad demise. They certainly did not help. RIP Alvin.
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Old 16th Sep 2007, 20:30
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Alvin

Didn't Alvin just get his first command recently? Hope he truly RIP. Condolences to family and loved ones.
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Old 24th Sep 2007, 01:43
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Alvin Goh tragedy

Any news about this unfortunate case? Any lessons we can learn from it; let him RIP but not let his passing be in vain.
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Old 25th Sep 2007, 13:59
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Hopefully no one follow in his foot step, May he rest in peace. More of us need to leave MAS but not his style.
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Old 25th Sep 2007, 16:44
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MAS Guy

Might i suggest you improve your command of the English language before you make anymore half baked comments and distasteful attempts at humour.

regards
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Old 26th Sep 2007, 16:44
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ditto Rule35
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Old 26th Sep 2007, 18:49
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MAS Guy

It may be true that more ppl should leave Mas but have a bit of respect as well for the late Alvin. May he rest peace.
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Old 2nd Oct 2007, 22:00
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From what I know, the monetary rewards for pilots in MAS is good now especially with the appreciating ringgit. Good for the guys who choose to remain. However the systemic rot remains and I believe this will continue as long as pilots keep being docile accepting whatever that's being dished out.

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Old 4th Oct 2007, 05:41
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But we in MAS always scramble for crumbs.
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Old 6th Oct 2007, 23:48
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Ringgit is up and greenbacks are in the doldrums. Heard that EK will offer a much enhanced package in their coming roadshow. Anybody with more info? Thks
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Old 9th Oct 2007, 02:41
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MAS pilots; the global demand for pilots have never been so good, so guys do yourself a favour. Drop the old mind set of burdening the old folks with your kids, cart your sorry whinging ass to greener pastures and prove your worth. All those talk of nasi lemak, teh tarik, datuk nenek doting over your kids are so lame and self limiting. Reminds me of all the jaguh kampungs who travel all over to compete but still wants nasi lemak and maggi mee wherever they go...one word sums it all up, PATHETIC.
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Old 9th Oct 2007, 03:28
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Actually it is not Nasi Lemak or Teh Tarik, we have no balls anymore. Camel cut it off! And Sam Black run away with it. That is why he is a Not Wanted man. I'm not ashame to admit it. We MAS pilot have no balls.
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Old 9th Oct 2007, 17:05
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Pathetic!
Wow....that hurt buddy!..but you know what....you are quite right.....thats why it hurts. Maybe I am a Jaguh Kampung after all...sigh!
I'll go sit in the corner and lick them wounds for awhile..whimper' whimper'. In the process will try to relocate them balls.
Who da guy that ran away with it again?
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