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Old 24th May 2007, 04:54
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im confused??

Hi,
Im newbie here...
Can i ask a few question?..
Im taking my PPL(almost finish it)and now i confused where should i take my CPL?
In malaysia or other country??..
And where is the best flying academy to continue my CPL/ATPL/IR?
Most of my friend choose to go Australia..
Any comment?


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Old 24th May 2007, 05:04
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Try looking up the MPL which was implemented by ICAO in November 2006. One year course and you are right seat qualified A320.
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USA....cost efficient, good wx in most places and highly qualified instructors in most schools. Get your CPL done in the US
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thanks.. neway u all hv suggestion a few flying school u recomended? and izzit important to have degree to be a pilot???

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"thanks.. neway u all hv suggestion a few flying school u recomended? and izzit important to have degree to be a pilot???"
I knew that when you got your Atpl usually school give you a degree or bachelor...
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Old 26th May 2007, 13:54
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hi roxar,
try mpl program of CIA clark institute of aviation in angeles pampanga,philippines this company is being run by Alpha Aviation of UK youll be flying a c172 but will be a320 rt seat qualified when they let go of you// your $ will go a long way in the country,the husttle and bustle of getting a US nor Australia visa is humungous after 911,everyone is a suspect when you go to any white country now this days/// pm me will give you details
good luck'
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Old 26th May 2007, 15:45
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Multi-Crew Pilot's Licence

Hi everyone,

I'm hearing quite a lot about this MPL training scheme lately,but from what i got from the internet,its an ICAO proposal and most country's aviation authority are still reluctant in implementing it.

I've heard recent news that air asia is considering this MPL course for its next batch of cadets.Any chances of this MPL course being implemented in Malaysia?Any views will be highly appreciated..Thank you.

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Old 26th May 2007, 15:59
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Think

I would think twise to do the MPL.

It takes your career on that one type only.
10 years to upgrade
Never become TRE or TRI.

You`d be the first one out the door if the company changes types because the training cost for a new MPL is many times that of a general type rating. etc.....

I may be wrong here but it is a very limited licence.

OK if you are company sponsored, but freelance..... Do the lot.... And all doors are open for you...
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Old 26th May 2007, 23:05
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider777
Hi everyone,
I'm hearing quite a lot about this MPL training scheme lately,but from what i got from the internet,its an ICAO proposal and most country's aviation authority are still reluctant in implementing it.
The MPL programme is currently being 'beta tested' by Alteon in Brisbane with 6 candidates from China. Here's more about it. Apparently the FAA doesn't sound too keen about it unlike Australia's CASA. Here's more info from the CASA website regarding its implementation progress.
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Old 27th May 2007, 00:29
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hi,
izzit a advantage to hv MPL?
im still blur about MPL..
izzit already approved from all country?
And im blur wat is the different about MPL n MCC?..
FAA n JAA?...
Demn...
their just make a hard way to ppl who want to be a pilot...
making a rules and license changes every year...
if i dont seek information about this for sure the will be alot of time n money to be burnt away...
huh!...
nway are other flying school than CIA offer MPL course?..
thanks guys for ur information...
u all the best!
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Old 27th May 2007, 01:15
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Aussie

Hi,

just a suggestion from me, I'am in aussie right now in Archerfiled airport brisbane I found my school is very good in teaching method plus lots of asian students here,they have a program from PPL, CPL, ME, IR and atpl with aviation degrees from Griffith University and other important thing is the climate is suitable for flight training compare to other major cities in aussie .....just pm me if you want further info , and no i'm not working for them...
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Old 27th May 2007, 09:25
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MPL

To whom it may concern:

i read about this MPL long time ago. First i thought MPL is just another level after fATPL but after reading the article now i realize it's all different thing altogether.

The school in bintulu, sarawak offers MPL but in the course structure if i still remember you'll be graduated with fATPL/MPL which is quite confusing

From what i understand MPL will shorten the time needed to jump straight into right hand seat. That means you dont actually have to accumulate minimum 250 hours to obtain license to fly jets with pax or cargo.

i suggest you to stick with traditional fATPL as it's more recognized.

As for CIA in pampanga i dont think they're accepting cadets other than from PAL or CEB. but u can try to call them.

and for teeepeee do CIA offers type rating for a320 or 737? i'm holding fATPL i wonder whether they accept outsiders (other than their own freshly trained CPL or fATPL holder) to do type rating there.
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Old 28th May 2007, 00:07
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Clark Aviation at Angeles offers MPL courses to any person who wishes to do this course. Cebu are offering 50% sponsorship if you pass the tests/interviews! Currently about 50 students at Clark on MPL course and more starting next week. One year course and you end up A320 right seat qualified!!

A320 type ratings i am told will be available very soon at Clark on there A320 full flight simulator.

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Old 28th May 2007, 01:02
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wow!.
But there a good n bad about MPL...
Like 8ah said...
huhu...
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As it is an open forum please be careful what people say good and bad about certain thngs, ie MPL. I would do some serious checking on the web and within the flying community before you write the MPL off. You will be able to take your ATPL exams at any time as the course work is upto ATPL level (at Clark it is).As for upgrade all depends on your hours and Licence.It's an amazing oppurtunity to obtain an A320 licence right hand seat in ONE year at a fraction of the normal cost to get CPL/ATPL and type rating.Don't forget it is the time span as well, your extra outgoings are for only one year and not 3-4??

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Old 28th May 2007, 02:46
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thanks pfd..
nway this is for along time period and maybe for ur whole life..
so better thinking some that can support u until u 'gone'..
rather than just following ppl...
that why i ask u all about this...
nway thanks...guys...
and what is the big different about MCC n MPL?..
doest it mean MCC is not valid now?..
or just a name...?..
now i need extra panadol
...
thanks pfd...
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Old 28th May 2007, 06:10
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So who is going to hire the new MPL 200 hour pilot with his Airbus type rating?

They wouldn't be qualified for India... so where?
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Old 28th May 2007, 06:53
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Why not qualified for India? Many Indian airlines already involved with the scheme as well as the authority.
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Old 28th May 2007, 16:33
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For Indian citizens, yes, but for expats, no.

I just don't see the value of a Multi Crew license in most countries.

Why is Australia doing it? Doesn't Australia have one of the highest rates of pilots per capita than anywhere in the world?

In western countries the "great pilot shortage" only seems to really exist among those who are selling flight training and type ratings.

I personally suspect the Multi Crew License is probably just a way for airliners to get cheaper labor into the flight deck.
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Old 29th May 2007, 07:42
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how much is the cost to do MPL? In CIA angeles, pampanga they said it gonna cost you about P 3 million something but im not sure whether it's ATPL or MPL. and by the time you graduated you'll be right seated on a320.

how about ATPL in CIA? Omni Aviation next to DMIA only offers up to CPL without ME rating. But they offer instructors course, fit for anybody who wants to build hours.

Okay, does MPL including check ride on type? if fATPL only gave u licence needed without type rating so MPL will give all? at a fraction of total fATPL + type rating cost??
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