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Old 7th Mar 2007, 19:49
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Education costs for expats living in Vietnam is approx $1,000 USD per month per child.

I don't think there will be many Captain contracts advertised on the 330 as many of the existing VN 320 Captains are looking forward to those positions.
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Old 7th Mar 2007, 20:27
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Contract periods can be as short as 18 months.

The A330 may only be a temporary aircraft at Vietnam Airlines. If they decide to get rid of them, you will be without a contract and without a job. There is usually a clause in the contract that allows them to terminate your contract if there is no aircraft to fly.
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Old 7th Mar 2007, 21:23
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L.I.S.,
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Old 10th Jun 2007, 12:59
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Devil Vietnam Airlines

Please everybody be very careful when you consider to work for Vietnam Airlines. I worked there for almost 3 years and left, because the maintenance standqard of the fleet is so bad, that I could not justify to work there anymore. On average everyday 80% of the fleet has maintenance issues. Nothing is repaired. Consequently they had several Engine Failures, Hydraulic failures, Total Electric Failure,3 ( Three ) Decompressions, all within the last year. Manuals are a mess, if you refuse to fly, Vietnamese Crew will operate.
Very dangerous Situation
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Old 11th Jun 2007, 04:16
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That is just crap

Maintenance is as good as anywhere these days.
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Old 21st Jun 2007, 00:23
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Dream Land!
Do not exaggerate a situation, it`s fairly stable. There are a lot of Aussie guys and former eastern block pilots who will stay there as long as they found another good place in the sun. I suppose the biggest problem is the huge difference in payment scale for locals and expats. This stirs up envy among local pilots. Put yourself in their place. Would you like guys who occupied positions you wish to take?And many of them have tolerance not to express their feelings to you. This is reality and you have to get on with it.
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Old 21st Jun 2007, 02:38
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With do respect, we have a different view of the situation, could this be because we are on a different fleets, do you operate in conditions where you are not allowed to make an entry in the technical log, based on specific destinations, are you asked to operate against flight and duty regulations outlined in the FOM, is there an environment to promote safety at this airline or to lie and mislead to avoid the famous trial (or circus) by peers.
We can try to promote improvements or sit back on or laurels and say it's fine.
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Old 9th Jul 2007, 05:02
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sam34:

And my father is vietnamese but I do not have the vietnamese nationality because I am borned in France, so I am french of course.


sam34, if I were you, I would seek the Vietnamese citizenship as a dual citizen with your father being Vietnamese. You should be able to do that. Then apply as a local. With some experience and foreign education they will be glad to have you....
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Old 9th Jul 2007, 05:12
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sam34, if I were you, I would seek the Vietnamese citizenship as a dual citizen with your father being Vietnamese. You should be able to do that. Then apply as a local. With some experience and foreign education they will be glad to have you....
Although I am sure your intentions are good, being hired as a local means your pay is somewhere around $1000.00 USD a month, my advice is to gain experience necessary to meet expat qualifications, use your fathers influence to be hired as a contractor and make seven times the amount of a local.
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Old 9th Jul 2007, 11:59
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I think they make more than $1000 per month. In any case, they are making a very good wage compared to other VN citizens. Their job also affords them much respect and the opportunity to see the world. Most also do a little "Import/Export" on the side.

I was there from 2003 until 2006, and never saw any evidence of jealousy from the VN pilots. They were always very friendly with us and made us feel welcome. Their careers are not being slowed down by Expats at all. We only fill the gap because they can not train their own people fast enough. I met 35year old VN 777 Captains.
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Old 9th Jul 2007, 15:42
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The math is actually pretty easy, be a local FO for $1000.00 a month or be an expat for $7000.00 a month with a 6 on and 2 off schedule.
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Old 9th Jul 2007, 20:22
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$1000/mo. for FO on which fleet?
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Old 13th Jul 2007, 10:07
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An FO that flys 80 Hours a month on the A320 fleet makes 15,000,000.00 VND.
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Old 13th Jul 2007, 12:40
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In addition to their salary, Vietnamese Nationals also get perdiems. Japan layovers were particularly lucrative. It is also curious that Expats do not get perdiems on layovers.

While I was on the 767 fleet, Japan layovers were assigned to the VN pilots first and the Expats got the leftovers. They would use the perdiems as a salary supplement and always ate and drank in the hotel "Crew Room". The flight attendants would go shopping for food, cook a nice meal and provide "liberated" beer and wine.

They were generally willing to share with the Expats and I did join them a few times.
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Old 13th Jul 2007, 17:42
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B777

Any chance VN recruit B777 DECs in the near future?
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Old 13th Jul 2007, 18:42
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777

Keep in touch with Parc Aviation, not too sure about that fleet.
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Old 15th Jul 2007, 15:44
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It is also curious that Expats do not get perdiems on layovers.
LIS, on the A320 fleet, CA's and FO's receive $2000.00USD per month for housing and per diem.
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Old 15th Jul 2007, 16:45
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LIS, on the A320 fleet, CA's and FO's receive $2000.00USD per month for housing and per diem.
Yes, I know. All contract pilots have it built into their total renumeration. Some contracts break it down differently and all that really matters is how much is deposited in your bank account on payday.

Most airlines pay you an hourly perdiem while on duty or a perdiem based on average meal costs in the layover city.

At Vietnam Airlines, you receive the same pay every day regardless whether you are on a 2 day layover in Tokyo, drinking beer in Saigon on a day off, or home with the family on your 2 weeks off.

That's why I really wouldn't call it a perdiem in the strictest sense of the word.
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Old 17th Aug 2009, 20:11
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duty program in Vac

I am thinking of going to vac to work as a A320 F/O. Could someone send me a monthly schedule typical, to get an idea.
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Thanks in advance.
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Old 24th Aug 2009, 08:48
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Hey. Looking for advice. Have a good job on A320, company offering leave without pay, am looking at Vietnam for something different for a couple of years, one wife, no kids. Would you guys at VAC recommend it?
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