Working with an Airline--which license needed.

[iamanaussiemavrick]

Hi,

I was thinking of this thing.

If i have a CPL+IR from australia and if i work there as a flight instructor there for 1 yr in cessna's and tobaigo's...after that if i apply to Emirates..is the australian license only needed..should i have to convert my license after tht.....and if i comeback to india with little experience i said..is it necessary tht i have to convert my license..Can i work in india with an australian cpl.

Regards

Kanak

[SmoothCriminal]

Whoever is offering you the Instructing job in Australia for the said 1 year should be able to enlighten you on this

[richie-rich]

i doubt if any company in australia would offer you job upon completion of your CPL. Australia trains locals every year, just the way they would train you. Why would they hire an indian when they have their own people? Dont get carried away and think its racism issue, because it is not. Airlines would rather hire own nationals rather than taking foreign expats. Same for flight schools.

If you are curious, I am from your part of the world training here in aus.
Richie

[iamanaussiemavrick]

Hi richie

Hi richie,

Can i know more abt u..

The thing i was asking is tht..whether indians (having ATPL with little exp)can be hired in Emirates,SA etc.

Regards

Kanak

[richie-rich]

kanak
you obviously havent got a good insight on the industry you want to set your sail on.

I am doing my CPL training in Australia. Upon completion, I intend to go back home where jobs are easier to get than what it is up here. An instructor earns less wage than what a supermarket trolley pusher does...well, metaphorically. Once they are able to build enough hours by instructional work, they can then apply to airlines as First Officers.

And if you monitor the pilot industry in South East Asia, minimum prerequisite for an entry level pilot into airlines is significantly lower. You would not have to spend a number of years working as an Instructor, Cargo pilot working throughout the night to gain the experience.

Ask an airline pilot who was able to gain a job upon CPL in India. Ask the same question to pilots who are in Australia. You would get the answer then.

All the best to you.
Richie

[iamanaussiemavrick]

Hi Richie,

I was talking with students from Italy etc .. that is why i asked.

I also knew that the requirements are lower in India but i never had a clear Idea about things.

Can u specefically tell what the indian airlines are looking at(Minimum). Do they ask for ATPL.

Also tell me about the license conversion. Have you done the indian CPL theory papers.

Where in australia are you doing the training.

It will be good if you can guide me.

Regards

Kanak

[Glorified Donkey]

Originally Posted by iamanaussiemavrick

Hi,

I was thinking of this thing.

If i have a CPL+IR from australia and if i work there as a flight instructor there for 1 yr in cessna's and tobaigo's...after that if i apply to Emirates..is the australian license only needed..should i have to convert my license after tht.....and if i comeback to india with little experience i said..is it necessary tht i have to convert my license..Can i work in india with an australian cpl.

Regards

Kanak

I think if you are so serious you need to do alittle more research about the job. There is no enough work in Aus for all the Australians, so most likely they wont give you work. And dont mistaken Emirates with some crappy Indian airline, they wont hire you with 1 yr experience instructing, try around the 4000hr mark with an ATPL and heavy jet time, as well as fluency in English

Best of luck

[Left Wing]

pls guys stop spoon feeding this guy...does not know what ATR is and wants to become an airline pilot

[richie-rich]

Glorified Donkey
fluency in english? i suggest you question your own fluency ...to me, someone who fails to deliver a good sentence structure must equally be ill-conversant

Imav, you have asked your questions under different threads. perhaps you should incorporate them into one and shoot all at once rather than opening various threads for different questions thats on your mind.

I suggest you get your CPL + ME IR at first and then think about exploring your avenues. You cant learn enough about this industry. Starting your training is a good entry point.

Glorified Donkey, some crappy Indian Airlines? I apologise but I am not indian, however, would you be kind enough to elucidate on that statement please?

Richie

[Glorified Donkey]

Well thats what I copied from the Emirates website. "Fluency" Dont ask me ask them.

The Indian airlines starting up are a joke. Airlines are sending guys without ME or MEIFR to Boeing and Bombardier to get type ratings and are getting sent back. The safety is a big issue and even Indian nationals I have spoken to are quite concerned.

Then again, only in India is a 172 pilot a "captain"

The mentality there is all wrong. Everyone wants to capitalize on the booming industry. You got guys that shouldnt be flying and have no idea about the industry buying jet type ratings only to get screwed by the airline (good for them) Everyone wants to finish training and get on a jet, its an accident waiting to happen, then again with over 2 Billion for population I dont even think the airlines or government care

Originally Posted by iamanaussiemavrick

Hi richie,
The thing i was asking is tht..whether indians (having ATPL with little exp)can be hired in Emirates,SA etc.

Regards

Kanak

Proves my point

[Left Wing]

Hey Donkey, stop winding up....you will jump and take a job at any of these "crappy" airlines if they offered you one.

[Glorified Donkey]

on the condition that I could live outside of India

[richie-rich]

Donkey
Then what point are you trying to prove in this thread? What is your background?

I am not questioning your experience/ability here, but have something positive to say to this guy who aspires to fly a jet. most of us were dreaming to fly jets since we were kids. only once we stepped into the industry for training that we realized that flying the big jet is no joke and learn how to accept reality.

anyway, all the best to you all.
Richie

[Glorified Donkey]

Agree, We all had dreams to fly the jets, but we also found out on our own what it takes, I dont think any of you guys were spoonfed. If you're trying to get into this career and dont know what an ATR is because you simply havent researched, then you better get on it, because there are guys out there that live, breathe and s*** aviation. Best of luck to all those aspiring pilots.

[richie-rich]

donkey
i dont know where this conversation with you is going to lead up to, but this guy is only 17 and he wants to know. leave it up to him to figure out his short coming.

and who are you to comment on indian industry? you are probably someone with a few thousand of hours (way more than i have at this stage) but you seem to be taking note about the negativity here.

anyway, i rest my case. arguing with someone like you is way beyond my reach. if you have something worthwhile to spit out, lets hear it.
btw, i am not indian, as i have said in some other post posted by the same guy, kanak. however, i do have indian friends who are pilots and i dont question their regimental sense when they are in command of an aircraft.

richie

[iamanaussiemavrick]

Thank's Richie

Hello,,

Thanks .. Atlast i got someone who is a pilot now to support me..

I am in my learining curve and i know tht i have a lot to learn...

The only way i can do it is by reading,,asking others etc...

Anyway i know where my dreams are and i try my maximum for that...

Hope i can reach there some day...

Regards

Kanak

[Blacksheep]

I like your style Kanak. Never stop asking questions - there's always more to learn.

As for the others, be like Donkey. A true professional is never be too proud to answer an honest question.

[iamanaussiemavrick]

Hi,


To get success you have to be positive. Any profession you take you will face hardships but its all about making your mind set and wanting to still go further.

Saw the number of posts by you.. It's a lot....Can i get ur mail id so that i can ask u something when i need.

Regards

Kanak

[ilov3s3lina]

i'm quite new here,

but......... i noticed many of the members here doesn't like to answer questions and even flame those who asked.

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[iamanaussiemavrick]

that's kool buddy..


Got company out here...

U r really spot on.....

When we have resources we have to utilise that...

good professionals always like to help youngsters.

Regards

Kanak