What are the Minimum Requirements for Indian Domestic Airlines?
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Whoa!
A few points i'd like to differ from your defence about a developing nation blah blah mr Patriot!
India is one of the most literate countries in the world and have more professional than most of the other developed nations... Therefore the idea of further education is not new in india..As a matter of fact however rich or how big an airplane you fly the majority of the society will look into your qualifications..of course they dont know about aviaton and the importance of having a back up or whatever. This need'nt affect you personally but there are people who are affected. If you havent met any TRE/TRI/ MBA or PHD pilots its because we move in different circles .
Regarding the statement about flying A380s.. you are talkign with respect to the first part.. did u read the second statement? There are pilots who say that literally.. From ATRs / 737s to Space shuttles with a 10+2 .. what a *** joke! If you are defending this dream .. well i pity you too
Unlike you, me having tasted a few industries myself in a short career span before landing in an aviation related industry I must say india is much more than a developing nation. Its just that we'de developed in a wrong way. We need to mend it but we're sitting idle saying that its developing , let it develop while the babus are enjoying their share of the development
Jai hind
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A few points i'd like to differ from your defence about a developing nation blah blah mr Patriot!
India is one of the most literate countries in the world and have more professional than most of the other developed nations... Therefore the idea of further education is not new in india..As a matter of fact however rich or how big an airplane you fly the majority of the society will look into your qualifications..of course they dont know about aviaton and the importance of having a back up or whatever. This need'nt affect you personally but there are people who are affected. If you havent met any TRE/TRI/ MBA or PHD pilots its because we move in different circles .
Regarding the statement about flying A380s.. you are talkign with respect to the first part.. did u read the second statement? There are pilots who say that literally.. From ATRs / 737s to Space shuttles with a 10+2 .. what a *** joke! If you are defending this dream .. well i pity you too
Unlike you, me having tasted a few industries myself in a short career span before landing in an aviation related industry I must say india is much more than a developing nation. Its just that we'de developed in a wrong way. We need to mend it but we're sitting idle saying that its developing , let it develop while the babus are enjoying their share of the development
Jai hind
Haree
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Hey Mate,
I am glad to know that ‘unlike me’ you worked with different industries at a young age. But I am sorry to say that again, you made another statement without knowing the facts! How do you know that I did not work in various areas? You actually helped me prove my point! You are repeatedly making statements without proper research.
Just to clear few doubts, After first degree, I was fortunate enough to get full scholarship to read M.S (in different field) in Europe. And later worked in Europe which actually helped me register for a Research Degree (Ph.D) while teaching young professionals and working with industry in the Pacific Rim. So far, I was pursuing a profession of my choice but now it is time for me to take up the profession of my dream. Hence I got myself registered for a CPL. At a very old age of 32.
While I agree that a lot can be done to improve things in India, I strongly feel that things are moving in right direction unfortunately, every thing takes time in India, surely as you said, due to ‘Baburaj’. Having studied and worked in India and Overseas, I understand both the sides (little bit). And it was bit difficult for me to accepts the way you made your points. I have no intention of making this personal but such post project misleading image leading to misinterpretations of facts by other readers.
Thanks for you comments anyway.
I am glad to know that ‘unlike me’ you worked with different industries at a young age. But I am sorry to say that again, you made another statement without knowing the facts! How do you know that I did not work in various areas? You actually helped me prove my point! You are repeatedly making statements without proper research.
Just to clear few doubts, After first degree, I was fortunate enough to get full scholarship to read M.S (in different field) in Europe. And later worked in Europe which actually helped me register for a Research Degree (Ph.D) while teaching young professionals and working with industry in the Pacific Rim. So far, I was pursuing a profession of my choice but now it is time for me to take up the profession of my dream. Hence I got myself registered for a CPL. At a very old age of 32.
While I agree that a lot can be done to improve things in India, I strongly feel that things are moving in right direction unfortunately, every thing takes time in India, surely as you said, due to ‘Baburaj’. Having studied and worked in India and Overseas, I understand both the sides (little bit). And it was bit difficult for me to accepts the way you made your points. I have no intention of making this personal but such post project misleading image leading to misinterpretations of facts by other readers.
Thanks for you comments anyway.
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Darn! i knew i had to use punctuations...
The "Unlike you" was the thought abt the developed nation thingy!!!
Unlike you, I must say india is much more than a developing nation , having tasted a few industries myself in a short career span before landing in an aviation related industry.
Now i know why Mrs Ninen used to cane me after my 2nd Std English grammar tests!!!
Cheers!
The "Unlike you" was the thought abt the developed nation thingy!!!
Unlike you, I must say india is much more than a developing nation , having tasted a few industries myself in a short career span before landing in an aviation related industry.
Now i know why Mrs Ninen used to cane me after my 2nd Std English grammar tests!!!
Cheers!
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I think while you guys are taking it easy in the great white north, the 200 hr kids would have got time on type, then when you're ready to give up the company of the polar bears and return to India with 1500hrs + of King Air, PC 12 etc time, an airline would have probably have closed down or guys looking to move companies.
Then you'd have 20yr old kids with 500hrs + Jet time who would be easily given the job.
In Canada the industry is very saturated, and the opinion there is that you have to have lots of propeller time before you move on to a jet.
Let me ask you guys- if an indian license were to be dropped into yours hands - you guys would be wishing to be in India ASAP or would you still like to gain a little more experience in the great white north.
Don't want to leave your comfort zone , eh ?
Cheers !
Then you'd have 20yr old kids with 500hrs + Jet time who would be easily given the job.
In Canada the industry is very saturated, and the opinion there is that you have to have lots of propeller time before you move on to a jet.
Let me ask you guys- if an indian license were to be dropped into yours hands - you guys would be wishing to be in India ASAP or would you still like to gain a little more experience in the great white north.
Don't want to leave your comfort zone , eh ?
Cheers !
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For one, the employer you work for means alot. Alot of the employers in the great white north are very reputable around the world, one being Kenn Borek who has many of its former pilots occupying seats at Cathay Pacific today. 
Not saying all airlines in India are unsafe, but there are a few that have been flagged. Jet time is important, but PIC time is as well. 1000Hrs jet time as FO in a low cost carrier which has a bad reputation is not anywhere as attractive to employers as 1000Hrs Turboprop PIC at a highly reputable company.
If you work for a company that breaks air laws, SOPs and has poor training, your next employer will know about the kind of experience you have.
Flying turboprop up in the great white north requires alot of skill and builds better experience than the skinny 21 year old indian pilot pushing AP1 on the airbus.
If an indian licence was dropped in my lap, I would be cautious, cause that probably means that there were too many accidents there and now they need to hire from abroad because of high insurance or no more surviving indian pilots. Im also willing to bet that a turbo prop captain in Canada makes alot more money than a FO on a CRJ or 737 in India. And also the living conditions in the great white north are alot better than that of India, so you wont see many of us down there.
BTW Ive been north of 60 and have still yet to see Polar Bears...lets get some proper info sent to India because all the new immigrants think we are just a truck stop here.
Cheers!
Not saying all airlines in India are unsafe, but there are a few that have been flagged. Jet time is important, but PIC time is as well. 1000Hrs jet time as FO in a low cost carrier which has a bad reputation is not anywhere as attractive to employers as 1000Hrs Turboprop PIC at a highly reputable company.
If you work for a company that breaks air laws, SOPs and has poor training, your next employer will know about the kind of experience you have.
Flying turboprop up in the great white north requires alot of skill and builds better experience than the skinny 21 year old indian pilot pushing AP1 on the airbus.
If an indian licence was dropped in my lap, I would be cautious, cause that probably means that there were too many accidents there and now they need to hire from abroad because of high insurance or no more surviving indian pilots. Im also willing to bet that a turbo prop captain in Canada makes alot more money than a FO on a CRJ or 737 in India. And also the living conditions in the great white north are alot better than that of India, so you wont see many of us down there.
BTW Ive been north of 60 and have still yet to see Polar Bears...lets get some proper info sent to India because all the new immigrants think we are just a truck stop here.
Cheers!
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So you guys saying that its unsafe for a 200 hrs in C152 + 15 hrs in Seneca+ 10 hr in Sim CPL holder to fly right seat on a A320 / B737 / E 170 / ATR ???
And any idea which is the company which practises the best CRM ?! or which part of the world has strict CRM procedures
And any idea which is the company which practises the best CRM ?! or which part of the world has strict CRM procedures
