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hi all,
anybody in here knows abt ppl course offered by johor flying club. was searching for a place to get a ppl. cost wise it(S$7500) looks much lesser than the one in singapore flying club(S$ 20K-30K )... but dun know the validity of the course... anyway a ppl is still a ppl (i guess)... plz help me to decide.....
anybody in here knows abt ppl course offered by johor flying club. was searching for a place to get a ppl. cost wise it(S$7500) looks much lesser than the one in singapore flying club(S$ 20K-30K )... but dun know the validity of the course... anyway a ppl is still a ppl (i guess)... plz help me to decide.....
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Hii,
Malaysia PPL and Singapore PPL gives you different privileges.. and to obtain the PPL is affordable.. but to maintain is very costly... You will need to clock certain hrs per year to keep it current... I heard of Elite flying club in Senai Airport will cost you about S$7500...
Ermm... If you just wanna get some flying experiences, I don't think you need to spend that amount of $$.. If you want to embark into aviation career, you need at least an CPL/IR .. Which I heard amount to about RM150k... And if you hope to get into SIA cadet pilot with a PPL, ermm.. I would advise you to save the $$$ for better use..
I was in the cadet pilot phrase for about a yr before getting axed.. 90% of us were ab-initio, without flying experiences at all... During my second interview, we had 2 cabin crews and 1 guy with PPL, all three did not manage to get in.. Just my 2cents worth...
Malaysia PPL and Singapore PPL gives you different privileges.. and to obtain the PPL is affordable.. but to maintain is very costly... You will need to clock certain hrs per year to keep it current... I heard of Elite flying club in Senai Airport will cost you about S$7500...
Ermm... If you just wanna get some flying experiences, I don't think you need to spend that amount of $$.. If you want to embark into aviation career, you need at least an CPL/IR .. Which I heard amount to about RM150k... And if you hope to get into SIA cadet pilot with a PPL, ermm.. I would advise you to save the $$$ for better use..
I was in the cadet pilot phrase for about a yr before getting axed.. 90% of us were ab-initio, without flying experiences at all... During my second interview, we had 2 cabin crews and 1 guy with PPL, all three did not manage to get in.. Just my 2cents worth...
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Hi Chullan,
Just to add on. Once you get you PPL in Malaysia, you might need to do a conversion to fly in Singapore...I think the best way to know this is to contact your local DCA for more information. Just something to consider and to get more information for you to make a decision.
Hi TinyBrain,
When you didn't get into SIA, what was your plan of action. Did you finance youself to get you flying licence or you re-apply for SIA. I too am trying to get into SIA a Cadet Pilot and I want to make a change of career.
Chullan, I am sorry for diverting of the original topic.
Cheers and take for you input.
Just to add on. Once you get you PPL in Malaysia, you might need to do a conversion to fly in Singapore...I think the best way to know this is to contact your local DCA for more information. Just something to consider and to get more information for you to make a decision.
Hi TinyBrain,
When you didn't get into SIA, what was your plan of action. Did you finance youself to get you flying licence or you re-apply for SIA. I too am trying to get into SIA a Cadet Pilot and I want to make a change of career.
Chullan, I am sorry for diverting of the original topic.
Cheers and take for you input.
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thanx for the replies guys.... actually my final goal is to apply for SIA cadet itself, but think its still a long way to go... me now going to 23 yrs only...sing PR with a local diploma currently workin.... had applied for it for a few times but so far no reply from them.... may b age is a factor coz i have seen in other topics tht a lot of guys with dip has gone through and am muslim (may b terrorism factor comes in).... well now am thinking abt to wait for 26.... but for the time being am planning to take a ppl so tht even if i couldnt make it atleast i can have some taste of flying... have been dreaming of becoming a pilot since childhood.... so cant let it go like that...
anyway like to ask somethin... how many hours of flyin do i need to keep the ppl alive???
anyway like to ask somethin... how many hours of flyin do i need to keep the ppl alive???
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Chullan,
This is an extract from the CAAS website:
3.7 How can I renew my PPL?
You will have to fulfil the following :-
i) Pass a Singapore Class 2 medical with a CAAS DME within the month of licence expiry
ii) Prepare a Singapore crossed cheque/money order/cashier's order of $39 (applicants age 40 years and above) and $78 (applicants below 40 years old) made payable to 'CAAS'
iii) Show evidence in your flying logbook with certification from the flying instructor of your flying club that you have accumulated a minimum of 5 hours total flying experience in the period of 12 months prior to the expiry of the licence, of which 2 hours must be dual flying.
You can find other licensing info at:
http://www.caas.gov.sg/caas/level3.j...ightoperations
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This is an extract from the CAAS website:
3.7 How can I renew my PPL?
You will have to fulfil the following :-
i) Pass a Singapore Class 2 medical with a CAAS DME within the month of licence expiry
ii) Prepare a Singapore crossed cheque/money order/cashier's order of $39 (applicants age 40 years and above) and $78 (applicants below 40 years old) made payable to 'CAAS'
iii) Show evidence in your flying logbook with certification from the flying instructor of your flying club that you have accumulated a minimum of 5 hours total flying experience in the period of 12 months prior to the expiry of the licence, of which 2 hours must be dual flying.
You can find other licensing info at:
http://www.caas.gov.sg/caas/level3.j...ightoperations
9V
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Originally Posted by NinerVictor
iii) Show evidence in your flying logbook with certification from the flying instructor of your flying club that you have accumulated a minimum of 5 hours total flying experience in the period of 12 months prior to the expiry of the licence, of which 2 hours must be dual flying.
thnx 9v
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Chullan,
5 hrs of flying in S'pore plus annual medical upkeep isn't all that affordable for most people, so it's great that you are able to afford it. Do check with CAAS on the procedure and requirements to convert a Malaysian PPL to a CAAS one. Cheers.
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5 hrs of flying in S'pore plus annual medical upkeep isn't all that affordable for most people, so it's great that you are able to afford it. Do check with CAAS on the procedure and requirements to convert a Malaysian PPL to a CAAS one. Cheers.
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i know its still on the high side for all even to me.... but there is one way... dun convert ur licence straight away.... juz keep it as malaysian... fly in malaysia..get a few hours of experience from there... rental in malaysia is oso cheap(think so)
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Originally Posted by chullan
i know its still on the high side for all even to me.... but there one way... dun convert ur licence straight away.... juz keep it as malaysian... fly in malaysia... rental in malaysia is oso cheap(think so)
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Chullan,
The min age of 26 to apply for SIA cadet program is only applicable for Singaporean. Since you said you are 23, then your are well qualified.
SIA recieved thousand of applications for cadet pilot every month. Try apply again if no call up for 1st interview after few months. Who know your letter went to wrong address. One thing about applying with SIA, you can't give up. There is one line pilot with SIA that I know personally went for the 1st interview 7 times before he finally got it. (show his determination & SQ like that)
Btw, don't let religion (especially muslim) discourage you from trying with SIA. They do give us the chance & there are muslim pilots in SIA, (although small in number compare to the whole population of SIA pilots) & I'm one of them.
The min age of 26 to apply for SIA cadet program is only applicable for Singaporean. Since you said you are 23, then your are well qualified.
SIA recieved thousand of applications for cadet pilot every month. Try apply again if no call up for 1st interview after few months. Who know your letter went to wrong address. One thing about applying with SIA, you can't give up. There is one line pilot with SIA that I know personally went for the 1st interview 7 times before he finally got it. (show his determination & SQ like that)
Btw, don't let religion (especially muslim) discourage you from trying with SIA. They do give us the chance & there are muslim pilots in SIA, (although small in number compare to the whole population of SIA pilots) & I'm one of them.
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think min age requirement is for both pink and blue IC holder, this was clarified during one of career talk, however I know someone who went all the interviews at age of 21 who is a PR. but could not make it (could or couldnt due to age?)
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Chullan,
The min age of 26 to apply for SIA cadet program is only applicable for Singaporean. Since you said you are 23, then your are well qualified.
SIA recieved thousand of applications for cadet pilot every month. Try apply again if no call up for 1st interview after few months. Who know your letter went to wrong address. One thing about applying with SIA, you can't give up. There is one line pilot with SIA that I know personally went for the 1st interview 7 times before he finally got it. (show his determination & SQ like that)
Btw, don't let religion (especially muslim) discourage you from trying with SIA. They do give us the chance & there are muslim pilots in SIA, (although small in number compare to the whole population of SIA pilots) & I'm one of them.
The min age of 26 to apply for SIA cadet program is only applicable for Singaporean. Since you said you are 23, then your are well qualified.
SIA recieved thousand of applications for cadet pilot every month. Try apply again if no call up for 1st interview after few months. Who know your letter went to wrong address. One thing about applying with SIA, you can't give up. There is one line pilot with SIA that I know personally went for the 1st interview 7 times before he finally got it. (show his determination & SQ like that)
Btw, don't let religion (especially muslim) discourage you from trying with SIA. They do give us the chance & there are muslim pilots in SIA, (although small in number compare to the whole population of SIA pilots) & I'm one of them.
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The youngest cadet during my time was a malaysian (no PR) who was 19 years old & hold STPM. He was even considered "under-age" that he need a signed consent letter from his parents before he could attend the OBS course (1st SIA cadet training programme).
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Originally Posted by lorads
think min age requirement is for both pink and blue IC holder, this was clarified during one of career talk, however I know someone who went all the interviews at age of 21 who is a PR. but could not make it (could or couldnt due to age?)
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Hi SQ228,
I may I know what is the max age for to apply for SIA? I know I read it somewhere but I can seem to find the info now...I hope you don't informing me. Thanks bro.
cheers
I may I know what is the max age for to apply for SIA? I know I read it somewhere but I can seem to find the info now...I hope you don't informing me. Thanks bro.
cheers
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Hi SQ228,
I may I know what is the max age for to apply for SIA? I know I read it somewhere but I can seem to find the info now...I hope you don't informing me. Thanks bro.
cheers
I may I know what is the max age for to apply for SIA? I know I read it somewhere but I can seem to find the info now...I hope you don't informing me. Thanks bro.
cheers
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Having a PPL is actually a good thing. Though some do get cut off during the second interview... The reasons being....those are the people just getting a PPL for the sake of showing passion but don't know anything else...known commonly as minimal pilots.... The other reason is that many of the aspiring pilots go to johor to get their ppl. That is a well NO-NO. It's just as good as buying a license. It's the same as a degree...you graduated from some private unknown unversity compared to a recognised one. Yes it is still a degree as what many will argue but the value of it makes a difference in this reality. So to those people who just want to take a hit at flying first, please choose reputable instruction... spend a little more is better than saving and devaluing the worth. Just my 2 cents.
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SQ228,
Thank for the update
and I am sorry for missing a word in my last post 
....I'm just waiting for a reply from SIA...and I think I need to sent my application in again...anyway bro thanks.
cheers
Thank for the update
and I am sorry for missing a word in my last post ....I'm just waiting for a reply from SIA...and I think I need to sent my application in again...anyway bro thanks.cheers
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Originally Posted by billkill
Having a PPL is actually a good thing. Though some do get cut off during the second interview... The reasons being....those are the people just getting a PPL for the sake of showing passion but don't know anything else...known commonly as minimal pilots.... The other reason is that many of the aspiring pilots go to johor to get their ppl. That is a well NO-NO. It's just as good as buying a license. It's the same as a degree...you graduated from some private unknown unversity compared to a recognised one. Yes it is still a degree as what many will argue but the value of it makes a difference in this reality. So to those people who just want to take a hit at flying first, please choose reputable instruction... spend a little more is better than saving and devaluing the worth. Just my 2 cents.
As far as SIA cadet pilot program is concerned, having PPL can be pros & cons. The learning curve in SIA is very steep & having PPL (or flying experience) give you an added advantage, but instructors usually have higher expectation from you compare to ab-initio guys. There was one cadet with CPL/IR rating from Australia who didn't make through seletar flying stage. Needless to say, wether or not you are PPL holder, be ready to work really really hard to go through. Things however are getting better in SFC with the depature of CBS in Seletar & LB in Jandakot.
For those with extra big money, MFA in Melaka or Massey University in NZ are 2 flying schools where SIA/CAAS would recognize your CPL/IR that you can skip Seletar/Jandakot phase & go straight to Learjet training.
But for those without extra money like me, don't feel bad, 90% of cadets in SFC have no PPL & majority went thorugh ok.
graco,
good luck!