Indian Boom!!!& Sahara/Jet (Merged).
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It pays to talk to the people who actually work for the airline youre applying for. As far as jet airways is concerned ive been there and done that not too impressive.They discriminated between pilots, low pay and no appreciation for the 6days on every week.The locals get shafted while the contract foreginers end up with all the perks which rightly belong to everybody.Youll learn the hard way boys.Enjoy!
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India: Jet Airways buys Air Sahara
Just heard the rumour that since Kingfisher was no longer interested in buying Air Sahara, it was recentely bought by Jet Airways?
How true is this rumour? It came from a friend of mine who works for Air Sahara. How is it going to effect growth in India??
How true is this rumour? It came from a friend of mine who works for Air Sahara. How is it going to effect growth in India??
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Boeing finalizes Air India order, to invest in Indian MRO, training
Thursday January 12, 2006
Boeing and Air India finally put pen to paper on the carrier's 68-aircraft order in Mumbai yesterday, bringing to a close more than eight months of bureaucratic wrangling and controversy and ending a sales campaign that dates back more than a decade.Boeing Commercial Airplanes President and CEO Alan Mulally and AI Chairman and MD V. Thulasidas formally confirmed the order for 23 777s--eight dash 200LRs and 15 dash 300ERs--27 787-8s and 18 737-800s to be operated by Air India Express. The order is worth more than $11 billion at list prices, but specific financial arrangements were not disclosed. Deliveries will begin in November.
As part of the agreement, Boeing said it will invest in regional MRO and pilot training facilities in India. The airframer said details will be finalized in the coming months, but media reports cited Mulally and Indian Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel as saying Boeing will put $100 million into an MRO base, likely in Nagpur in central India, and $75 million into the training facility. Patel said the company also will source $1.9 million worth of products and services from India, according to Reuters.
Thulasidas said AI's expansion will include "new, ultra-long-range nonstop routes" such as Delhi-New York and Mumbai-San Francisco and that it will "emerge as one of the leading global carriers."
The airline currently operates a fleet of 11 747-400s, two 747-400 Combis, two 747-200s, two 747-300 Combis, three 777-200ERs and 21 A310-300s. The new 777s will replace the 747-200s and the 787-8s will replace the A310s
Thursday January 12, 2006
Boeing and Air India finally put pen to paper on the carrier's 68-aircraft order in Mumbai yesterday, bringing to a close more than eight months of bureaucratic wrangling and controversy and ending a sales campaign that dates back more than a decade.Boeing Commercial Airplanes President and CEO Alan Mulally and AI Chairman and MD V. Thulasidas formally confirmed the order for 23 777s--eight dash 200LRs and 15 dash 300ERs--27 787-8s and 18 737-800s to be operated by Air India Express. The order is worth more than $11 billion at list prices, but specific financial arrangements were not disclosed. Deliveries will begin in November.
As part of the agreement, Boeing said it will invest in regional MRO and pilot training facilities in India. The airframer said details will be finalized in the coming months, but media reports cited Mulally and Indian Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel as saying Boeing will put $100 million into an MRO base, likely in Nagpur in central India, and $75 million into the training facility. Patel said the company also will source $1.9 million worth of products and services from India, according to Reuters.
Thulasidas said AI's expansion will include "new, ultra-long-range nonstop routes" such as Delhi-New York and Mumbai-San Francisco and that it will "emerge as one of the leading global carriers."
The airline currently operates a fleet of 11 747-400s, two 747-400 Combis, two 747-200s, two 747-300 Combis, three 777-200ERs and 21 A310-300s. The new 777s will replace the 747-200s and the 787-8s will replace the A310s
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Indian Airlines reports record profits
Thursday January 12, 2006
Indian Airlines said it posted a record net profit of INR656.1 million ($14.8 million) in FY05, a 48.5% increase over the previous fiscal year's profit of INR441.7 million.The carrier reported that earnings were driven by an increase in traffic, which lifted total revenue to INR53.63 billion from INR47.26 billion in FY04. Indian said "strict cost control measures" adopted during the year saved it INR765.9 million.
Thursday January 12, 2006
Indian Airlines said it posted a record net profit of INR656.1 million ($14.8 million) in FY05, a 48.5% increase over the previous fiscal year's profit of INR441.7 million.The carrier reported that earnings were driven by an increase in traffic, which lifted total revenue to INR53.63 billion from INR47.26 billion in FY04. Indian said "strict cost control measures" adopted during the year saved it INR765.9 million.
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Well somebody handed me a photocopy of an airline magazine which had on it all the orders of aircraft that had actually been paid for by the many Indian airlines, and to say that it was mind boggling was the understatement of the year. I tell you that 3 to 4 thousand pilots is whats needed on the sub continent to crew the aircraft on order. There is nowhere near enough pilots for this expansion and worse the infrastructure is not even close to supporting it.
On the point of the possible Jet/Sahara merger/sale, i think both companies would be mad to not get into bed with each other if they are to stave off some serious competition from the newbies. It would probably ensure their survivabilty in the near future.
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On the point of the possible Jet/Sahara merger/sale, i think both companies would be mad to not get into bed with each other if they are to stave off some serious competition from the newbies. It would probably ensure their survivabilty in the near future.
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Boeing to invest $175 mn in India, gets firm order
MUMBAI, Jan 12: The US aviation giant, Boeing, will invest $185 million in facilities in India and source 85 billion rupees in products and services over a period of 10 years, India's civil aviation minister said on Wednesday.
The Chicago-based aerospace company will spend $100 million on a repair, maintenance and overhaul facility and $75 million on a pilot training facility, with a further $10 million on other facilities, Praful Patel told a news conference. State-run Air-India also on Wednesday finally placed a firm order with Boeing for 68 aircraft.
"The introduction of these aircraft will allow Air-India to expand and modernise its fleet, effect cost savings and add new long-range routes," Air-India Chairman V. Thulasidas said at the joint news conference.
The Indian cabinet in December approved Air-India's plans to buy up to 68 aircraft from Boeing, subject to final talks on price. The proposal was referred to a ministerial group to work out details, including a price reduction. The aircraft are valued at more than $11 billion in total at list price, according to a statement from Boeing. When Air-India's board approved the purchase of 50 aircraft last April, the deal was valued at $6.9 billion.
The final value of the deal was not disclosed on Wednesday, but Thulasidas said the $1.9 billion worth of goods and services that Boeing will buy represented about 30 percent of the value of the order. Experts put the plane order at about $6.3 billion. Boeing said it would also look at India's participation in design and manufacture of aircraft parts in the long term.
"We have done a deal with HCL Technologies for software for the 787, and we will be doing more such deals," Alan Mulally, chief executive, Boeing Commercial Airplanes, told the news conference. Boeing has an existing deal with Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd., a research deal with the Indian Institute of Science, and software services agreements with Tata Consultancy Services Ltd. and Wipro Ltd.
The Boeing order comprises 23 777s - including eight long-range and 15 extended range aircraft - and 27 of the widebody Dreamliner, due to enter service in 2008. Air-India Express, the budget airline, will receive 18 737-800s. Delivery of the aircraft will begin in November 2006.
Boeing, whose commercial plane orders more than tripled to a record 1,002 in 2005 on demand from Asia and the Middle East, has said it expects India to buy 490 aircraft over the next two decades as cheaper fares and growing traffic fuel demand.
India's domestic air travel market is forecast to grow more than 20 percent a year over the next five years as incomes rise in Asia's third-biggest economy and fares fall as new discount carriers launch in an increasingly crowded space. Airlines flew an estimated 19 million domestic passengers in India in the year to March 2005.
Air-India, which has not bought aircraft since 1996, has faced intense competition from domestic private carriers that can now fly overseas routes and from international airlines that have stepped up their services to and from India. Air-India and the domestic state carrier, Indian Airlines, are scheduled to make an initial public offering later this year.
MUMBAI, Jan 12: The US aviation giant, Boeing, will invest $185 million in facilities in India and source 85 billion rupees in products and services over a period of 10 years, India's civil aviation minister said on Wednesday.
The Chicago-based aerospace company will spend $100 million on a repair, maintenance and overhaul facility and $75 million on a pilot training facility, with a further $10 million on other facilities, Praful Patel told a news conference. State-run Air-India also on Wednesday finally placed a firm order with Boeing for 68 aircraft.
"The introduction of these aircraft will allow Air-India to expand and modernise its fleet, effect cost savings and add new long-range routes," Air-India Chairman V. Thulasidas said at the joint news conference.
The Indian cabinet in December approved Air-India's plans to buy up to 68 aircraft from Boeing, subject to final talks on price. The proposal was referred to a ministerial group to work out details, including a price reduction. The aircraft are valued at more than $11 billion in total at list price, according to a statement from Boeing. When Air-India's board approved the purchase of 50 aircraft last April, the deal was valued at $6.9 billion.
The final value of the deal was not disclosed on Wednesday, but Thulasidas said the $1.9 billion worth of goods and services that Boeing will buy represented about 30 percent of the value of the order. Experts put the plane order at about $6.3 billion. Boeing said it would also look at India's participation in design and manufacture of aircraft parts in the long term.
"We have done a deal with HCL Technologies for software for the 787, and we will be doing more such deals," Alan Mulally, chief executive, Boeing Commercial Airplanes, told the news conference. Boeing has an existing deal with Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd., a research deal with the Indian Institute of Science, and software services agreements with Tata Consultancy Services Ltd. and Wipro Ltd.
The Boeing order comprises 23 777s - including eight long-range and 15 extended range aircraft - and 27 of the widebody Dreamliner, due to enter service in 2008. Air-India Express, the budget airline, will receive 18 737-800s. Delivery of the aircraft will begin in November 2006.
Boeing, whose commercial plane orders more than tripled to a record 1,002 in 2005 on demand from Asia and the Middle East, has said it expects India to buy 490 aircraft over the next two decades as cheaper fares and growing traffic fuel demand.
India's domestic air travel market is forecast to grow more than 20 percent a year over the next five years as incomes rise in Asia's third-biggest economy and fares fall as new discount carriers launch in an increasingly crowded space. Airlines flew an estimated 19 million domestic passengers in India in the year to March 2005.
Air-India, which has not bought aircraft since 1996, has faced intense competition from domestic private carriers that can now fly overseas routes and from international airlines that have stepped up their services to and from India. Air-India and the domestic state carrier, Indian Airlines, are scheduled to make an initial public offering later this year.
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Re: Indian Boom!!!& Sahara/Jet (Merged).
What are the current requirements for these companies.
The information about that region which is being published lately are certainly very encouraging.
Unfourtanetly I don't hold a type rating. I am sitting at around 3400TT, with about 1000 on the Cheyenne, and a canadian ATPL.
Which companies would accept my cv and seriously consider?
Your advise would be welcomed.
The information about that region which is being published lately are certainly very encouraging.
Unfourtanetly I don't hold a type rating. I am sitting at around 3400TT, with about 1000 on the Cheyenne, and a canadian ATPL.
Which companies would accept my cv and seriously consider?
Your advise would be welcomed.
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Re: Indian Boom!!!& Sahara/Jet (Merged).
To the best of my knowledge for almost all of the India jobs---they need Capts with time and a type in the A/C with atleast 500 hrs in type. Most F/O positions are filled by Indian nationals, and even if they needed F/O's I imagine that they will require time in type (737NG/Airbus/777 etc). If you can get on with someone whereby you can get the time in type, then it would be relatively easy to get a job there.
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Re: Indian Boom!!!& Sahara/Jet (Merged).
Thanks,
does jet have a policy in place for atr capts. and fo's to upgrade on the 737?
what is the quality of life for locals? how many days off etc? what is the training like?
thanks in advance
does jet have a policy in place for atr capts. and fo's to upgrade on the 737?
what is the quality of life for locals? how many days off etc? what is the training like?
thanks in advance
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Its finally done, 100% stake under Jets control
Air Sahara brand will be shut down all pilots, AME, cain crew, ops staff will be absorbed Sahara management will be shown the door.
S2's 767 will be used for BOM-SIN routes
Air Sahara brand will be shut down all pilots, AME, cain crew, ops staff will be absorbed Sahara management will be shown the door.
S2's 767 will be used for BOM-SIN routes
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AME's
Kingfisher got another 12 or so AME's from Deccan
from all over the country.........
reason..........?
..............showwwwww me the moneeeyyyyyyyyyy
thats the reason............
jiji
c ya
from all over the country.........
reason..........?
..............showwwwww me the moneeeyyyyyyyyyy
thats the reason............
jiji
c ya
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Jet Airways acquires Air Sahara
JA has acquired Sahara for $500 million.
The airline's board has approved the deal, subject to regulatory approvals.
Naresh Goyal, Jet's chairman, and Subrata Roy, chairman of Air Sahara, confirmed that the Sahara brand will be dropped once the takeover is complete and that there will be no immediate job loses.
Jet Airways, founded by former travel agent Goyal, flew 7.9 million passengers in 2005, making it the leading Indian airline with about 37% of the market. Air Sahara flew 3.5 million passengers in the same period for a 12% market share.
The airline's board has approved the deal, subject to regulatory approvals.
Naresh Goyal, Jet's chairman, and Subrata Roy, chairman of Air Sahara, confirmed that the Sahara brand will be dropped once the takeover is complete and that there will be no immediate job loses.
Jet Airways, founded by former travel agent Goyal, flew 7.9 million passengers in 2005, making it the leading Indian airline with about 37% of the market. Air Sahara flew 3.5 million passengers in the same period for a 12% market share.
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There has been lots of things going on in the Academy. A lot of the senior guys look like being replaced. The place is full of activity with many worried about what will happen to their positions. Rumoured that senior management positions will be replaced with current Jet people.
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Hello
Ne 1 have any idea what jet plans to do with the CRJs from Sahara. I am a rj driver a couple of weeks from a contract with Air sahara to fly the little beasts. Ne info would be appreciated.
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Ne 1 have any idea what jet plans to do with the CRJs from Sahara. I am a rj driver a couple of weeks from a contract with Air sahara to fly the little beasts. Ne info would be appreciated.
Vimanman
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to be or not to be............
i nkow the 6 month rule
but...............
1st..............does it apply to expats?
2nd..............do we need clearance from 1 carrier to join another?
some say that even if you get the clearance the Top's of each airline
with their (pampered) contacts in DGCA will make sure that you WONT get another one with your new employer
......is it?
ya know..........no one whants to be the 1st TEST rat on the LAB
any tip will work
thanks
but...............
1st..............does it apply to expats?
2nd..............do we need clearance from 1 carrier to join another?
some say that even if you get the clearance the Top's of each airline
with their (pampered) contacts in DGCA will make sure that you WONT get another one with your new employer
......is it?
ya know..........no one whants to be the 1st TEST rat on the LAB
any tip will work
thanks
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Jet'ssssssssss
Jet Airways, fresh off its acquisition of Air Sahara, is considering ordering the A380 or 747-8, CEO Wolfgang Prock-Schauer told ATWOnline. He said delivery positions for either aircraft will not be available before the 2010-11 timeframe, "when we will need more capacity."
Between April 2007 and March 2008, Jet takes delivery of 10 777-300ERs and six A330s. "Including two ILFC-leased A330s and an additional four A330s, we will have 22 long-haul aircraft," Prock-Schauer said. He also told this website that discussions to possibly switch some of the 777-300ER orders for dash 200LRs have ended; "We realized it is better to have a bigger aircraft and plan one stop on very long routes. Because we have also a new first class onboard, we need more capacity."
The merger with Air Sahara is on track, with the latter expected to be integrated in a year. Jet wants to assume the international traffic rights from Air Sahara to Southeast Asia as well as to London.
Meanwhile, Jet will start a second daily Mumbai-London Heathrow service with the summer schedule, bringing its UK service to a total of three daily flights including one from New Delhi
Between April 2007 and March 2008, Jet takes delivery of 10 777-300ERs and six A330s. "Including two ILFC-leased A330s and an additional four A330s, we will have 22 long-haul aircraft," Prock-Schauer said. He also told this website that discussions to possibly switch some of the 777-300ER orders for dash 200LRs have ended; "We realized it is better to have a bigger aircraft and plan one stop on very long routes. Because we have also a new first class onboard, we need more capacity."
The merger with Air Sahara is on track, with the latter expected to be integrated in a year. Jet wants to assume the international traffic rights from Air Sahara to Southeast Asia as well as to London.
Meanwhile, Jet will start a second daily Mumbai-London Heathrow service with the summer schedule, bringing its UK service to a total of three daily flights including one from New Delhi
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Expat rule
To the best of my knowledge there is no plan to change the rule regarding expat f/o's in India. Other countries in Asia adopt somewhat similar rules. In India atleast one cockpit crewmember must be Indian, so I've been told.
If you have the 737 type, try to get time in type (500 hrs min) as a PIC and then you will have no problems getting hired. Mostly they need 737NG time, not the classic.
If you have the 737 type, try to get time in type (500 hrs min) as a PIC and then you will have no problems getting hired. Mostly they need 737NG time, not the classic.