Air Do 737NG contract
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The contract being offered by IASCO and HACS falls a long, long way short in the housing accommodation area.
JPY250,000 won't get you a dog kennel, let alone a decent apartment or house, especially in the bases mentioned - Tokyo, Osaka, and Kobe.
JPY500,000 - double the present offer - is realistic.
The base salary of USD8,000, should be from the first year (iso USD7,000).
Japan is a "problem area" going by the posts that have appeared here on PPRUNE.
Please don't try to tell us this one's going to be any different.
Any foreigners who go there can expect more of the same - abuses of contractual conditions, and personal hardship.
It's time to up the ante, or to straighten the Japanese out, so it's a no brainer which of the two is the more likely.
JPY250,000 won't get you a dog kennel, let alone a decent apartment or house, especially in the bases mentioned - Tokyo, Osaka, and Kobe.
JPY500,000 - double the present offer - is realistic.
The base salary of USD8,000, should be from the first year (iso USD7,000).
Japan is a "problem area" going by the posts that have appeared here on PPRUNE.
Please don't try to tell us this one's going to be any different.
Any foreigners who go there can expect more of the same - abuses of contractual conditions, and personal hardship.
It's time to up the ante, or to straighten the Japanese out, so it's a no brainer which of the two is the more likely.
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This contract can at lease offer the 10 Holidays evry month and a flying perdiems of Japan yens 150,000 so it is more better in these conditions then the PARCS contract with JALEX.
Yes Japan yens 250,000 cannot be enuff for housing allowence.
If MD pilots for JALEX take the inferrier PARC contract you will be regret and find the to much difficult time to work in that compeny.
Yes Japan yens 250,000 cannot be enuff for housing allowence.
If MD pilots for JALEX take the inferrier PARC contract you will be regret and find the to much difficult time to work in that compeny.
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Vacation days: approxiimately 2.5 weeks per year!
Be real.
The average desk pusher, working 9-5 receives 9 or 10 days (Sa and Su) off every month.
Added to these they get Public Holidays - throw in another 16 to 20 per year.
Vacations generally run at 3 weeks to 6 weeks per annum.
2.5 weeks for a foreigner, living in a foreign country.
Be real!
Be real.
The average desk pusher, working 9-5 receives 9 or 10 days (Sa and Su) off every month.
Added to these they get Public Holidays - throw in another 16 to 20 per year.
Vacations generally run at 3 weeks to 6 weeks per annum.
2.5 weeks for a foreigner, living in a foreign country.
Be real!
Moderate, Modest & Mild.
I find myself in agreement with Foreign Worker.
In my experience here, the gaijin pilots have not been given the same treatment and respect as the Japanese - to the extent that many of us feel we are NOT wanted here.
In Western countries, these forms of discrimination are illegal, and result in court actions against the employer.
Yes, 10 "OFF" days (minimum) should be a non-negotiable issue.
It is essential to be able to "escape" from the high stress Japanese life - the Japanese themselves do it regularly, if only for a week or so at a time, several times a year.
For a foreigner, working and living in Japan, 21 days per annum will NOT be enough, and contractors will find their pilots burning out, some sooner/later than others, unless a more reasonable number of Vac days are realised.
¥250,000 might get you accomodation in a country town, such as Miyazaki (Sky Net Asia's base) - it WON'T allow you to get anything decent in any of those cities mentioned.
No mention of Sick Leave provisions are made in the outline of the contract I have seen.
With the density of population Japan has, someone here always has a cold (or a fever, if you ask them). I haven't suffered the intensity nor frequency of sore throats, colds, 'flu, in any other country as here in Japan.
In my experience here, the gaijin pilots have not been given the same treatment and respect as the Japanese - to the extent that many of us feel we are NOT wanted here.
In Western countries, these forms of discrimination are illegal, and result in court actions against the employer.
Yes, 10 "OFF" days (minimum) should be a non-negotiable issue.
It is essential to be able to "escape" from the high stress Japanese life - the Japanese themselves do it regularly, if only for a week or so at a time, several times a year.
For a foreigner, working and living in Japan, 21 days per annum will NOT be enough, and contractors will find their pilots burning out, some sooner/later than others, unless a more reasonable number of Vac days are realised.
¥250,000 might get you accomodation in a country town, such as Miyazaki (Sky Net Asia's base) - it WON'T allow you to get anything decent in any of those cities mentioned.
No mention of Sick Leave provisions are made in the outline of the contract I have seen.
With the density of population Japan has, someone here always has a cold (or a fever, if you ask them). I haven't suffered the intensity nor frequency of sore throats, colds, 'flu, in any other country as here in Japan.
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You're right guys. The Japanese are treating foreign pilots with contempt. They don't deserve the quality product that the western pilots are. Versus the locals, they're worth two, three times as much.
I couldn't encourage anybody to go to Japan to work, for any company. I have friends in all, and very few, if any, are satisfied.
250K yen in Tokyo!! You gotta be joking; you won't even get a park bench for that.
Well, Bureau Shinagawa has bed sitters for 250, but bring your own furniture, and be prepared to live in a total area of 25 sq meters!! They do chuck in brekky though....the same brekky 365 days a year.
As KM says, you will have sore throats almost constantly because of the ridiculous policy of no sick leave in Japan for locals, so they come to work sick and give it to everybody.
And I had more headaches there than ever before...the only thing I could put it down to was MSG, lots of MSG in food, or maybe the Tokyo pollution.
There is actually a recognized disease in Tokyo caused by pollution. Can't think what it's called, but it exists. 5 K viz is good going into Tokyo.
I couldn't encourage anybody to go to Japan to work, for any company. I have friends in all, and very few, if any, are satisfied.
250K yen in Tokyo!! You gotta be joking; you won't even get a park bench for that.
Well, Bureau Shinagawa has bed sitters for 250, but bring your own furniture, and be prepared to live in a total area of 25 sq meters!! They do chuck in brekky though....the same brekky 365 days a year.
As KM says, you will have sore throats almost constantly because of the ridiculous policy of no sick leave in Japan for locals, so they come to work sick and give it to everybody.
And I had more headaches there than ever before...the only thing I could put it down to was MSG, lots of MSG in food, or maybe the Tokyo pollution.
There is actually a recognized disease in Tokyo caused by pollution. Can't think what it's called, but it exists. 5 K viz is good going into Tokyo.
