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I am looking for informations about ASIANA for expat, working conditions, salary, days off.... Moreover what about the life in Korea? What about the weather...
So, in fact all kind of informations for somebody wondering: Apply or not apply ?
By advance thank you for your help.
So, in fact all kind of informations for somebody wondering: Apply or not apply ?
By advance thank you for your help.
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I have received this mail some weeks ago :
Dear xxxxx ,
This is in response to your e-mail message received today.
Thank you for your interest in working with Asiana Airlines.
According to our Flight Administration Team in Seoul, we have a recruitment freeze at the moment, and it is very unlikely to resume to hire foreign pilots in the near future.
In addition, please be advised that you must meet the minimum criteria in all areas before your application for assignment contract can be accepted. Please refer to the following qualifications.
Qualification requirements for flight crew at Asiana Airlines
* Only captain position on B737-4/500, B767-300, B747-400, B777-2/300, A321-1/200 would be open depending on our man power planning
*PIC time in type must be 500hrs or more
*Total time must be 7,000 hrs or more incase of B744 and 5,000 hrs or more incase of B777, B767, B737-400/500 & A321
*The last flight in type must be within the last 6 months and KCAB's requirement must be met
The following shall not be a part of flight experience
- Simulator time
- Idle time in double crew/augmented crew time (Only actual stick time is flight time)
- Cruise captain time
The following shall be a part of flight experience
* Observation time
* Route training time
If you feel you are suitable to our criteria, you may submit your resume to our designated crew agencies below to keep your qualification details on file. According to our policy, we do not proceed with direct application to Asiana Airlines.
Parc Aviation /
Mr. Lochlann Walsh - Client Services Manager reachable at [email protected]
or
World Airlines Services /
Ms. Amal Azoury - Human resources Manager reachable at [email protected]
They will keep you informed of any possible positions at Asiana occurring throughout the year. Again, thank you for your interest in working with Asiana Airlines and we wish you well.
Best regards,
Dear xxxxx ,
This is in response to your e-mail message received today.
Thank you for your interest in working with Asiana Airlines.
According to our Flight Administration Team in Seoul, we have a recruitment freeze at the moment, and it is very unlikely to resume to hire foreign pilots in the near future.
In addition, please be advised that you must meet the minimum criteria in all areas before your application for assignment contract can be accepted. Please refer to the following qualifications.
Qualification requirements for flight crew at Asiana Airlines
* Only captain position on B737-4/500, B767-300, B747-400, B777-2/300, A321-1/200 would be open depending on our man power planning
*PIC time in type must be 500hrs or more
*Total time must be 7,000 hrs or more incase of B744 and 5,000 hrs or more incase of B777, B767, B737-400/500 & A321
*The last flight in type must be within the last 6 months and KCAB's requirement must be met
The following shall not be a part of flight experience
- Simulator time
- Idle time in double crew/augmented crew time (Only actual stick time is flight time)
- Cruise captain time
The following shall be a part of flight experience
* Observation time
* Route training time
If you feel you are suitable to our criteria, you may submit your resume to our designated crew agencies below to keep your qualification details on file. According to our policy, we do not proceed with direct application to Asiana Airlines.
Parc Aviation /
Mr. Lochlann Walsh - Client Services Manager reachable at [email protected]
or
World Airlines Services /
Ms. Amal Azoury - Human resources Manager reachable at [email protected]
They will keep you informed of any possible positions at Asiana occurring throughout the year. Again, thank you for your interest in working with Asiana Airlines and we wish you well.
Best regards,
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Pilots in Korea
Only expirienced Pilots where hired from both Airlines in the past in Korea. The Airforce puts out pilots who are firstly hired as F/O`s. So the country`s demand is for left seat. If you want to know more about life in Korea then imagine yourself in a discriminating and >Foreign = scary< societey. 5000 years of history of human kind are devasting. You be never part of the team. Schedules are not even fair in the slightest way. You there to do the 
flights. You fly Ancorage in the Winter and then vise versa during the Monsun and rain season to south east Asia.
If you ever have a request for a favor the answer is NO. The invisible "Korean" proceedures are whoever flies at the moment, what Boeing/Airbus teaches and what most of the Airlines worldwide adopt is wrong in theire mind. It can happen that a B744 Driver ask you for Flaps 5 at 13.000 ft and 77.3 DME from the Aiport with even morer trackmiles to go.....
You have also to accept that there is, in various cases, no understanding of Airmanship at all. The CASA or KMOCT, regulator in the country, has no intention to improve to international standarts in english. They require still at least one native korean speaker in the cockpit to make shure that the controller on the ground can switch to korean anytime to make himself understood in case of any abnormality or,even worse, in case of emergency. Just imagine that you fly with a F/O and you have simple non-normal situation. They have no vocabulary to express that situation to a Japanese or Philipinne Controller. The number of say again touches the nerves of the controler for a simple clearence like: After take off turn left HDG 130 and maintain 6000 ft, wind 350/8 Kts, Cleared for Take off. Readback is: Cleared for take off!. Flight 123 I say again after Take off maintain HDG 130 and 6000ft. The SID says something else and that is what he is "programmed" to do by "Senior Notes". So the controller asks for veryfication that the Flight 123 complies but there is silence.... and the brain is storming as how dare can he give us such a non standart clearence in the last second. You have also be prepared for the worse below 50 ft AGL. Chasing glide slope or putting the opposite rudder and aileron in is nothing surprising anymore. I do not want to boar you with more but just prepare yourself for the worst and you will be still surprised. In Korea are a little more the 300 Expats in both Airlines and the number is steady decreasing. Two years ago it was over 400. Think about it if you really like to go for it as a lot more are seeking theire pasture on "the other side" presently.
NG
flights. You fly Ancorage in the Winter and then vise versa during the Monsun and rain season to south east Asia.If you ever have a request for a favor the answer is NO. The invisible "Korean" proceedures are whoever flies at the moment, what Boeing/Airbus teaches and what most of the Airlines worldwide adopt is wrong in theire mind. It can happen that a B744 Driver ask you for Flaps 5 at 13.000 ft and 77.3 DME from the Aiport with even morer trackmiles to go.....
You have also to accept that there is, in various cases, no understanding of Airmanship at all. The CASA or KMOCT, regulator in the country, has no intention to improve to international standarts in english. They require still at least one native korean speaker in the cockpit to make shure that the controller on the ground can switch to korean anytime to make himself understood in case of any abnormality or,even worse, in case of emergency. Just imagine that you fly with a F/O and you have simple non-normal situation. They have no vocabulary to express that situation to a Japanese or Philipinne Controller. The number of say again touches the nerves of the controler for a simple clearence like: After take off turn left HDG 130 and maintain 6000 ft, wind 350/8 Kts, Cleared for Take off. Readback is: Cleared for take off!. Flight 123 I say again after Take off maintain HDG 130 and 6000ft. The SID says something else and that is what he is "programmed" to do by "Senior Notes". So the controller asks for veryfication that the Flight 123 complies but there is silence.... and the brain is storming as how dare can he give us such a non standart clearence in the last second. You have also be prepared for the worse below 50 ft AGL. Chasing glide slope or putting the opposite rudder and aileron in is nothing surprising anymore. I do not want to boar you with more but just prepare yourself for the worst and you will be still surprised. In Korea are a little more the 300 Expats in both Airlines and the number is steady decreasing. Two years ago it was over 400. Think about it if you really like to go for it as a lot more are seeking theire pasture on "the other side" presently.
NG
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Current Asiana B744 Capt, LHR based.
Korea like Japan with no tourists, no real interest in foreigners. but still friendly.
B737ng painted a picture that is a little server but hard to argue with. I think he must be with Korean Air?
Condions, Ask Parc Aviation, but forget any overtime, You will only get payed for 75 hours/month, even if you work contract limit of 95hr on B744
Roster for LHR based crew. LHR, STN To ICN. W patterns To Frankfurt, Brussells. All 3 or 4 pilot crew. Cargo flights often 2 sectors. Some local flying to Bejing, Shanghi, Tokyo.
You will not see Bangkok layovers, the Koreans take all those.
Worst bug in training, what there is of it, final route check is pass/fail with no second shot at it.
Hope this helps. Best of luck.
Korea like Japan with no tourists, no real interest in foreigners. but still friendly.
B737ng painted a picture that is a little server but hard to argue with. I think he must be with Korean Air?
Condions, Ask Parc Aviation, but forget any overtime, You will only get payed for 75 hours/month, even if you work contract limit of 95hr on B744
Roster for LHR based crew. LHR, STN To ICN. W patterns To Frankfurt, Brussells. All 3 or 4 pilot crew. Cargo flights often 2 sectors. Some local flying to Bejing, Shanghi, Tokyo.
You will not see Bangkok layovers, the Koreans take all those.
Worst bug in training, what there is of it, final route check is pass/fail with no second shot at it.
Hope this helps. Best of luck.
