SpiceJet Bombardier 2015
 

Hi all

SpiceJet is looking for F/O's on their Bombardier fleet.

They are charging Rs35,000 for the exam and will be selecting 50 candidates.

Given that these crooks did not stick to their selection criteria* during their 737 rated exams 2014, how many will be willing to take a gamble this time.

*Advertisement mentioned 60 candidates will be selected from stage 2 and qualify for stage 3. They selected only 40 candidates from stage 2. This clearly is in breach of the selection criteria set by them.

This discrepancy was brought to the attention of the testing officer, a captain of the highest rank. He simply shrug it off saying, Oh well, the selection is done now. Too late."

So
 

so what details so far. how are they handling the selection process this time?
anyways i m on the verge of saying sayonara to the aviation industry

There are currently over 7000 CPL holders in India looking for that first job.
Let's say 4000 at the very least apply for the exam. At 35000 per head, that's a cool 14 Crore rupees, enough to pay the salary of their staff including pilots, for a few months.

Rumour is that 50 candidates who are selected will be charged Rs 40 lakhs each for a self-sponsored Type Rating course on Q400 Aircraft. A Rating on this type can be had from outside at Rs 8 lakhs. Corporate clients gain firther discounts. Lets assume 10 lakhs as the actual cost of TR which the company will bear. That's a savings of Rs 30 lakh per pilot. 30 lakh x 50 candidates = a cool 15 Crore rupees.

Total amount to be made in the latest venture by SPiceJet....to the tune of approx 30 Crore rupees!

Unless the governments steps in and regulate staff hiring, candidates will continue to bear the brunt of these scams. In a climate of job uncertainty, desperate pilots will continue to pour money into any opening they see to gain a foothold in the industry. It is now up to the ministry to protect the interest of the unemployed pilot fraternity.

hmmm
 

you are trying to sing an old song.
what are the real facts? im sure not the one you have posted.
spice would nt be charging that much for the rating. they mostly will charge 50% of it. half would be deducted from salary.
can anyone confirm this.

I clearly stated that the 40 lakh figure for TR is a rumour doing its rounds. But I wouldn't at all be surprised if Spice charged close to or even more than that amount.

You seriously don't think it cost them Rs35000 per candidate to conduct an online exam, now do you?

The topic of discussion is the cost for the TR after you get selected.

as i said before 'spice would nt be charging that much for the rating. they mostly will charge 50% of it. half would be deducted from salary.'

40L sounds a bit over-rated.

Your biggest worry should be whether Spice will select 50 candidates as advertised, or whether they will fall back on their word like they did with their last exam and take a smaller number.

Keep in mind there are 7000 CPL holders who are unemployed in India. Even if you take a conservative figure of 4000 that will apply, they will do so in the hope that there is a some chance of getting selected, albeit a slim one. (1 in 80)

Now imagine if they were to select only 10 candidates. That reduces your chance from 1 in 80 to 1 in 400. When the odds are stacked heavily against you, there will be fewer people willing to take the gamble and apply after paying 35000 plus expenses for the test.

THis is why it becomes extremely important for Spice to stick to their advertisement and select the number of candidates as advertised.

I am one of those candidates who appeared for 2014 thinking I was in for a fair chance. But was duped to know later on that they had reduced the number of candidates they were selecting, thereby decreasing my chances. Had I known that earlier I would not have applied for their paid test.

hmmm
 

you worry about all the 7000.

not all of them will be applying at the same time.
AI only had 3000 people appearing pan India.

The 7000 unemployed pilots is one of the biggest rumours that has been floating around in Indian Aviation

The DGCA from Jan 2004 to Dec 2014 issued only 9064 Pilot licenses . If 7000 were unemployed then that means only 2000 Pilots are employed .

Air India alone has 1500 something pilots . Jet Airways has another 1500 . IndiGo is also 1000+ ( actually I believe the numbers are closer 1500 )

A more accurate number of unemployed would be to find out how many apply for mass airline exams like Jet , IndiGo , Air India etc

Jet 2013 and 2014 has 3000+ roll numbers issued . IndiGo JFO 2015 had 2500+ roll numbers issued

For Air India its slightly less than 3000 roll numbers issued ( although i could be wrong about that one since I dont think my numbers for Mumbai are accurate... )

hmmm
 

absolutely,

people usually exaggerate those unemployed pilot numbers. just because someone started a group of unemployed pilots doesn't mean all of them are in the same boat. that group doesn't represent anything except an update for the aviation scene maybe.

Psychometry is computer based with no time limit. Before you take the test, you will be advised to answer only those which you are comfortable with. I have no idea why the capt said this. I'm sure not answering a particular question would amount to negative points in their assessment.

There is no personal interview with SG. Once you clear all the rounds, you're basically in. That is if they hire as many as they advertise, that is. SG is notorious for making changes to the test format on the go, so don't be surprised if unexpected things pop up during/after the tests.

that is yet to be seen when they select the final candidates.

Can somebody pls tell me if SG has declared the date of examination and venue. Is it going to be conducted at multiple centres?

you might as well ask SG

SpiceJet was supposed to close registration for TFO Q400 on 15 Nov 2015.
Today is 16 NOV, and you can still go and register for the exam. :D

SpiceJet has already gone against their own advertisement even before the exams haves started. Like I said folks dont be surprised if unexpected events pop up during/after the tests.

They will change the test format, change selection criteria, change the min pass mark, change the number qualifiers at every round and finally change the number of candidates they will induct.

:yuk: Disgusting to say the least, after paying them 35,000 RS for the opportunity.

how about you wait for the exam to get over , and then speculate.

Past actions are a great predictor of future behaviour.

It is no longer a speculation.
Today is Nov 16, still accepting new registrations for their 35,000 RS exams, 24 hours after their deadline for registration has passed.

Maybe they didn't get enough applicants to make the projected amount of money? Just a speculation. :mad:

Everything I needed to know about Spicejet I learnt on TFO 2014.
Not speculation. Just saying.

SpiceJet has extended the last date for registration till 25th November 2015 . Exam date as published on their website is 6th December 2015

:: Pilot Recruitment ::

Thanks cyrilroy. Can you please tell me where it says on their website exam date being 6 Dec. Thanks

@avicon

Try opening the website in a new browser. You should be able to see the new ad...

Ok new browser.

Yes, got it.

how does it matter to you, if you`re not planning to give the exam.

Self Sponsored Training cost @ SG TFO Q400
 

Greetings Fellow Aviators,

As mentioned on the Spicejet website regarding TFO recruitment:

"Training will be self sponsored for initial and future upgrades in the company. The cost shall be payable at the time of joining the company"

Any clue, as to how much they would ask upfront for training after the selection?

Thanks

AND where exactly does it say on the website about such details?

Under the Terms & Conditions section once you have registered.

thanks for sharing the info. but that doesnt mean the whole cost has to be paid upfront. it usually would mean paying half upfront and then the later deducted from salary.

Good luck arguing over that with Spicejet.

I should have threatened to sue his lame ass when he said "too late now". I had qualified for the next round but was refused the opportunity (even after paying their exorbitant exam fee) for the simple reason that the they weren't in the loop about the selection process and one guy thought it was the top 30 that qualify to the next round as against top 40 as advertised by them.

The so called computer based test itself is a joke. It was full of answers marked wrong by the computer which the invigilator later credited on paper.
A few questions had no right answer.

When you have such a vast range of topics to choose from, why set questions that are ambiguous? WHy not for once make something fool proof, clear and precise. Is that too much to ask for? Did they not pay their software developers properly. Didn't anyone the company so much as oversee what was being prepared for the test.

I can bet my bottom rupees that SG has already selected candidates they intent to hire. This is an eye wash and a cool gimmick to make some much needed "funds", to the tune of 12-14 crore.
Spicejet is a f*cking joke.

someone surely hates SG. please take your personal enmity with SG somewhere else. there are alot of aspiring candidates here trying to play in this field.

hey guys any QB or suggested study material?

the syllabus didnt mention air regs.. does that mean its okay to skip on regs?

2014 they asked from GSP and Oxford. Met is also important. Reg was not asked. Transponder code questions were repeated. 3 question on emergency squawk code was repeated. Radio aids came from GSP.

You may be right @avicon. I cannot believe they need to have an exam to recruit just 50 pilots when in the past so many years they only had hush hush internal exams. Maybe the internal guys refused to cough up so much dough this time.

Every upgrade will have to be paid for by the selected candidates? Is this what happens in other airlines also? Then why work? Ultimately all the salary will get ploughed back to the company......wow!! What a sweet deal for the company! If this is not exploitation, I don't know what is. I'd love to see the maths for the net take home after all this slave labour business is done.

They have advertised for 50 pilots but I doubt they will take that many. 50 and 100 is a good figure to balance the statistical odds of making it in the minds of the candidate.

My guess is they will come up with another "external" exam again next year and advertise for 50 and take another 10. Of course after charging 35,000 for it from 3000 odd candidates. To put that in perspective, it costs Rs 9,500 per hour to hire a Cessna 152 in India, but SG charges you Rs35,000 to fiddle with their joystick(no pun intended) for 15 minutes. It's a sorry state of affairs. The company know that the first job is hard to come by and use this psychology to extract maximum from desperate candidates. Shame there is no regulatory body overseeing these malpractices.

I wonder how much higher they can hike their exam fee without facing protest. Is charging 50,000 for the test justified? Would you pay 1 lakh to appear for it? Is 3 lakhs a bit too much? How about 5 lakhs, is that way over the roof?

It is indeed a sorry state of affairs. Doesn't anyone have friends (I use that term in the real sense of the word) in the media? This kind of thing needs to be exposed - if for nothing else but to educate unwary youngsters. But then again, who cares? The government doesn't care, the people care even less. Most people would probably snigger and say "jolly good, serves the poor sods right".
Thing is, if employers treat their potential employees like this, do they seriously expect the employees to give their best on the job? Or does nobody care? Market supply/demand kicks in here too?

TR Cost
 

Guys, I'm unhappy to say, but I've also heard the same rumor from spice pilot that the training cost is going to be around 40-45 lakhs and they'll take 30lacs upfront when joining. remainder will be deducted from salary. :ugh:

the numbers are a rumor until confirmed.

Innocent until proven otherwise.

But spicejet is always guilty until proven otherwise. That's how this criminal organisation has always operated. They have been running a scam unchecked for years now. Not a single pilot with backbone to cal their bluff.

40-45lacs for a prop rating?did anyone confirm these figures from spicejet?

Have anyone received the venue details via email or heard when this is going to be out? Some of us are travelling interstate and need to make travel arrangements. Any ideas?