Originally Posted by R0gueone
(Post 11373984)
I think the majority of us who are active on this forum, have acquainted ourselves with the fact that we would be second officers for a long time. Nevertheless, despite the long course with little to no pay, and with only the prospect of one day possibly sitting left seat, its still enough to motivate us to one day be airline pilots with CX. Perhaps I have it wrong, and I only speak for myself. :-)
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Originally Posted by 17zhangtr1
(Post 11373185)
I think you need to ask yourself if you truly understand what being a pilot is like and similarly what type of pilot you want to be (LH/Regional/Charter/Instructor?).
Honestly, I think the people who are so clinging on the cadetship scheme really underestimate the impact of P2X. All their eyes are fixing on the brand, on free lunch, on the guaranteed employment and the sort..If nothing happens then good for you, keep waiting, but if God forbid some catastrophe happen, such as Covid or any policy changes which result in 90 per cent of the fleet being grounded then you are trapped. Did I also mention that they are desperately seeking for Direct Entry First Officer as well? Many left but the line hasn’t changed. That’s the reason I walked away. |
Originally Posted by trigonometry
(Post 11374772)
Ex boyfriend used to work for CX Dragon as a First Officer. At the interview he was given a choice to choose between CX and CX Dragon, he chose the latter, even though he hated to fly into China, I asked him why, he simply said, A) I did not want to be a babysitter for X years, B) CX is a sinking ship and I needed the hours as fast as I can. Even though he was sacked three years ago just like everyone else, he managed to seek employment with a US major airline, had his green card sorted out and now he's enjoying his free life. He told me, if I was a CX SO and I got sacked, I could not possibly find anyone to hire me with my P2X, because, apart from Cathay Pacific, no airlines in the world would consider my application, because I'm on P2X.
Honestly, I think the people who are so clinging on the cadetship scheme really underestimate the impact of P2X. All their eyes are fixing on the brand, on free lunch, on the guaranteed employment and the sort..If nothing happens then good for you, keep waiting, but if God forbid some catastrophe happen, such as Covid or any policy changes which result in 90 per cent of the fleet being grounded then you are trapped. Did I also mention that they are desperately seeking for Direct Entry First Officer as well? Many left but the line hasn’t changed. That’s the reason I walked away. A few years ago, before CX tore up everyones' contract, joining as an SO made sense. You would get in line and wait your turn for an upgrade based on seniority. There were annual pay increments up to the forth year, and every time the company hired a direct entry FO ahead of you, you would receive bypass pay, which grants you an FO salary while you awaited your turn. Additionally, the HKCAD also provided a guideline that it is expected that you do not hold a P2X for five years. Now, there is no line. Upgrades are based on what fleet you get, and you don't really have a choice on where you end up. People with more experience may jump ahead of you. There is no longer bypass pay, and the company even laughs at the suggestion. DEFOs are hired at an unprecedented rate. The HKCAD also removed the five year guideline. There are only two pay grades now for SO, with the highest one lower than the first tier of what it was before. So, you could be stuck in the role for a very long time, not build any transferrable hours, deal with a perpetual pay ceiling, and the added stress of aging while watching possibly younger guys who were hired after you fly the airplane. Oh, and did you know that CX is also one of the pioneering airlines flirting with the idea of single pilot operations during cruise on the airbus? Not trying to deter anyone, but you best consider whether the stuff happening in the latter paragraph is in anyway acceptable for you on your career path. Good luck. |
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RequirementsApply now if you are/have:
You will receive more information about joining Cathay Pacific in Hong Kong as a Second Officer upon successful completion of the Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme. |
Originally Posted by ChrissyPrezzie
(Post 11377776)
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Has anyone with prior flight experience and/or a PPL done the final interviews recently? Can you please share the questions that you were asked? Any other info would be appreciated!
Thanks! |
Originally Posted by AstridLLL
(Post 11349100)
I have received the invitation for the computer based test 2 days ago. Anyone who has similar process with me, feel free to reach out.
btw, I’m located overseas now. CX said I can complete the the ICAO at later stages. Would it be after / before the panel interview assuming I can pass the computer based test. Cheers ! |
Looking for people to practice mock-in/interview questions with.
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Originally Posted by Boulanger
(Post 11375455)
An absolutely accurate assessment. The P2X is the bane of every SOs' existence, and until that changes, people who join do so at their peril. The greater problem these days is that CX has broken their own progression system. There is no real "line" anymore, with no limits on how long you can be stuck in the role.
A few years ago, before CX tore up everyones' contract, joining as an SO made sense. You would get in line and wait your turn for an upgrade based on seniority. There were annual pay increments up to the forth year, and every time the company hired a direct entry FO ahead of you, you would receive bypass pay, which grants you an FO salary while you awaited your turn. Additionally, the HKCAD also provided a guideline that it is expected that you do not hold a P2X for five years. Now, there is no line. Upgrades are based on what fleet you get, and you don't really have a choice on where you end up. People with more experience may jump ahead of you. There is no longer bypass pay, and the company even laughs at the suggestion. DEFOs are hired at an unprecedented rate. The HKCAD also removed the five year guideline. There are only two pay grades now for SO, with the highest one lower than the first tier of what it was before. So, you could be stuck in the role for a very long time, not build any transferrable hours, deal with a perpetual pay ceiling, and the added stress of aging while watching possibly younger guys who were hired after you fly the airplane. Oh, and did you know that CX is also one of the pioneering airlines flirting with the idea of single pilot operations during cruise on the airbus? Not trying to deter anyone, but you best consider whether the stuff happening in the latter paragraph is in anyway acceptable for you on your career path. Good luck. |
Tech interview
Hi guys i have my hr and tech interview soon
is anyone keen to share their experience re both? It would be much appreciated. Pls pm me |
Hi guys
i am seeking your advice for the selection process my application was submitted on 7/2 and still no news so far is anyone keen to share their experience re both? It would be much appreciated. Pls pm me |
Originally Posted by KinGsDowN
(Post 11388713)
Hi guys
i am seeking your advice for the selection process my application was submitted on 7/2 and still no news so far is anyone keen to share their experience re both? It would be much appreciated. Pls pm me |
Originally Posted by ChrissyPrezzie
(Post 11389111)
Are you that lazy? Or you are actually deepenbhai?
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Hi KinGsDowN
Some rumours says if you don’t owns any flying experience, you will be placed in a latter position than applicants who have had. Applicants who with flying experience usually will be contacted within 1~2 weeks For whom haven’t, you will expect a much longer radio silence, some says up to 2 months wish you will get your reply soon, at the same time, keep yourself busy and fit for ICAO English Exam & Aptitude Test prior preparation prevent poor performance Good Luck |
Originally Posted by Fuyukikun
(Post 11389238)
Hi KinGsDowN
Some rumours says if you don’t owns any flying experience, you will be placed in a latter position than applicants who have had. Applicants who with flying experience usually will be contacted within 1~2 weeks For whom haven’t, you will expect a much longer radio silence, some says up to 2 months wish you will get your reply soon, at the same time, keep yourself busy and fit for ICAO English Exam & Aptitude Test prior preparation prevent poor performance Good Luck I guess it's all about the stuff that you put in on your application and that includes the cover letter. Remember, you are beating against the Applicant Tracking System (ATS), meaning AI. If your apps can't pass the robot then there is no way it will get into the human's hands. Same goes to any other jobs in any other industry. |
Hi Guys,
Just finished the final interview tech part last Thur. Received calls from Cathay asking me to submit my medical records based on my medical in confidence from. Is that a good sign showing I might passed the final interview? Its been a week and I am quite nervous about it... How long in average you guys will receive the invitation to medical check? |
Hey guys, if application has disappeared from portal, does it mean you're unsuccessful? :(
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Originally Posted by RidingWings
(Post 11390368)
Hey guys, if application has disappeared from portal, does it mean you're unsuccessful? :(
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Originally Posted by HermannGuwalgiya
(Post 11390167)
Hi Guys,
Just finished the final interview tech part last Thur. Received calls from Cathay asking me to submit my medical records based on my medical in confidence from. Is that a good sign showing I might passed the final interview? Its been a week and I am quite nervous about it... How long in average you guys will receive the invitation to medical check? |
Anyone with flying experience went to the final stage interview recently ?
Did they drill deep into your aviation knowledge? Please DM me if so. Thanks in advance |
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