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flyhiigh 19th May 2010 11:20

divan pk
 
divan, I think their intention is to reqruit all cadets, since ite their own cadet sheme. Since we cant predict the future, nothing is guaranteed, but a VERY, VERY good chance you will work for them, would be the word!

Allthough, after the training it seems it can take a few months before you actually start working. It can take up to 6 months I read in the thread! But waiting for something good, you never wait to long :)

Good luck!

holdmetight 19th May 2010 13:32

Panzergrenadier
 

1) I will be graduating college in April 2011, should I apply after I graduate or 2-3 months before since many people don't hear back for a long time? I also hope to do it earlier is because if I do not get an interview, or fail the interview, I can quickly go back to my other options/school.
IMHO you are looking at this from the wrong way. Sure, if you get your timing right you have the luxury of a backup, should your cadet application go awry. However you should remember that if you are not at the absolute top of your game, you will not be able to secure the cadetship. This is obvious because of the large number and variety of candidates applying. I would advise you to apply when you are well and truly ready, as opposed to when it is convenient for you in terms of your schedule. Take your time, do your due diligence and you will maximize your chances of getting selected - isn't that the most important thing?


2) I live in Toronto so the obvious choice is to choose Toronto & Hong Kong as interview locations. However, it seems like Vancouver gets chosen more often so should I choose Vancouver instead of Toronto?
I don't know about that, sorry. I can only HKG would be a good choice as it is the company base of operations and selections should logically be held more frequently there than at any other location.


3) I am nearsighted (over 200 degrees) and wear glasses/contacts, will that affect any decision to my application?
No. Myopia per se is not a problem, though you will need an opthamologist to make sure you rmyopia does not lead to other eye problems.

AsL402 19th May 2010 18:39

Stage 1B Interview Questions
 
I typed out a list of the questions I was asked during my Stage 1b interview, thought it might be helpful those preparing. Keep in mind that I have 0 flight hours, so if you have experience, expect harder questions

1. What instruments are in the "Basic T"
2. What are the headings of the runways of the HK airport
3. What is the other name of the HK airport
4. What plane is this (they have a model on the desk of the plane, it was a A330-300)
5. What is my favorite plane and why
6. How many pilots does CX employ
7. How many planes are in their fleet
8. What European destinations does CX fly to
9. Which new destination to Europe was recently announced
10. What happened on April 13 with the CX A330
11. Who were the founders of CX and when
12. Do I play Flight Simulator
13. What are the duties of a SO at CX

Here are the HR Questions they asked me:
1. How often do I visit HK (they knew i was from HK since i had a HKID)
2. What do i like about HK
3. What will i miss most if i have to leave US
4. What do i do in my spare time
5. Why did i choose my major, what did i like/dislike about it
6. What do i like/dislike about my current job
7. What gives me the most stress at work and how do i cope with it

THE_WING 19th May 2010 19:48

Thank you
 
Thank you ASL402. That's very kind of you..

Em773ER 20th May 2010 01:33

AsL402
 
thanks for the info there!

how in depth did they go into these questions? did they continue asking more questions regarding those topics or they would move to the next question?

AsL402 20th May 2010 02:10

Em773ER
 
They didn't go in depth in most of the questions. The only one i can remember was after i stated the duties of a S/O flying to destinations such as Europe, NA, or Australia, she asked me what are the European destinations CX flys to.

Just remember to be honest. If you don't know the answer, tell them honestly!

ap_797 20th May 2010 07:22

Thanks alot AsL402 for that great information! I'm just wondering how the stage A questions differ from those of stage B? Are the stage A questions your fairly basic why have you applied? why do you want to fly for Cathay? and other general questions about the applicant?

Thanks!

Octopus88 20th May 2010 08:57

Hey Guys,

Was just curious to know if anyone has any idea on how many pilots are currently employed by CX? I've noticed this could quite easily be asked, though can't track a number down anywhere...

Thanks

&&& 20th May 2010 13:32


At this stage, Cadet Entry Pilots are treated as Locally Employed Pilots and as such do not get a housing allowance. This is not to say that the Cadets will NEVER get it or some form of payment
Get this straight.
You will NEVER get housing. Your 3rd world pay scale is it.
You are being employed because you will never get housing.
You are coolie labour and will be reated as such.
Join at your peril, don't say we didn't warn you.

AsL402 20th May 2010 20:35

ap_797
 

Thanks alot AsL402 for that great information! I'm just wondering how the stage A questions differ from those of stage B? Are the stage A questions your fairly basic why have you applied? why do you want to fly for Cathay? and other general questions about the applicant?
Ap,

There weren't too many questions asked in Stage 1A. I think if your presentation is too short, then they will ask you a few basic questions..I.E. Why do you want to be a pilot, etc.

The questions i listed are all from Stage 1B where the real interview was.

THE_WING 21st May 2010 03:35

Answers
 
Hello all,

AsL402 was very kind to share with us a list of questions asked in the CX interview. I have a few answers for the same (source - internet). If anyone wants to make any corrections, please feel free or PM me. Once again, thanks for your inputs and happy flying.

Q. What are the runways of the HK airport
A. 7L and 25R, 7R and 25L

Q. What is the other name of the HK airport
A. It is colloquially known as Chek Lap Kok Airport because it was built on the island of Chek Lap Kok by land reclamation and to be able to distinguish it from its predecessor, the closed Kai Tak airport.

Q. How many pilots does CX employ
A. I honestly don't know where to find that information but I found the total number of CX staff as on March 2010 and that number is 18324.

Q. How many planes are in their fleet
A. Passenger - 97 in service and 21 on order
Cargo - 24 in service and 10 on order

Q. What European destinations does CX fly to
A. AMS, CDG, LHR, FRA, MXP, and FCO

Q. Which new destination to Europe was recently announced
A. DME CX207/206 (begins July 13, 2010)

Q. What happened on April 13 with the CX A330
A. On 13 April 2010, Cathay Pacific Flight 780, an Airbus A330-342 (B-HLL) from Surabaya, Indonesia requested an emergency landing at Hong Kong International Airport with dual engine problem. All four tires on the left-hand main gear, and two on the right, deflated as the aircraft landed in high speed and high energy braking. On board the flight were 309 passengers and 13 crew. 8 passengers were injured with no fatalities.

Q. Who were the founders of CX and when
A. The airline was founded on 24 September 1946 by American Roy C. Farrell and Australian Sydney H. de Kantzow, with each man (ex-air force pilots) putting up HK$1 to register the airline. They named it Cathay Pacific because Cathay was the ancient name given to China; and Pacific because Farrell speculated that they would one day fly across the Pacific.

Any feedback appreciated.

learfo 21st May 2010 03:53

Just do it
 
I agree with Phil T. Its just like asking a girl out. Don't be shy. I'm short about 163cm. I went through my whole aviation academics thinking no one would hire me cause I'm so short. Working for CX was my dream. I went through 2 cadet interviews and never got the job. But its ok. Now that I think about it, I don't think I would fit in. This just goes to show you, things happen for a reason. If you're the right fit for them then you'll get hired. They're happy and I'm happy. Surely, you'll be competing with peeps with experience. But don't ever let that shatter your dreams. Always remember, failure is the beginning of success. I'm flying corporate now on a G-IV. Airline is not for everyone. There are always other options out there. I went through an aviation college in the US and instructed for 3 years. Nothing in this world felt more rewarding then watching my students do their first solos. On top of that. You really find out who you really are. Go do it. Do what ever it takes to do what you want. Remember if a job feels like a job. Then its just a job. Most of the people in this forum forgot where they come from. They forget they wouldn't mind flying for free. Hell some jobs almost paid next to nothing. That is ashame that the industry got to where it did today. There will be problems where you work, and the grass always seems greener on the other side. Make your choices carefully. Times have change. Contracts change. Just be glad most of us lucky ones have jobs. The way I see it, there are choices in life you must make that you will have to live with. Take it or leave it is all the airlines motto. After all, we are all replaceable by people that are willing to do it cheaper that you.

arflyingman 21st May 2010 07:07

G'day guys, did my 1st stage in Brisbane. I have had experience in C172/C172RG's hence the C172 questions. Also dodged questions related to HK since I've stayed there for a while.

· How does a CSU work?
· How does the fuel system of the C172 work?
· What is the engine/hp of a C172?
· Parents thoughts on moving to Hong Kong?
· Why become a pilot, what do you like about it?
· Describe your flying career to date.
· Are you currently working?
· What do you do in your spare time?
· What are your plans if CX will NEVER accept you?
· Are you interested in instructing at FTA?
· What planes does FTA use to train cadets?
· Course is 61 weeks, do you get a salary for it, if so how much? Will you be alright with it?

· What licences do you come out with?
· Roles of S/O in CRZ and T/O and LDG.
· What are the fleets of CX?
· What engines are fitted on what A/C?
· How large is CX’s fleet.
· Are there anymore on order and if so how many and what are they?
· Identify this A/C.
· Where does CX fly to in North America? (They seemed happy with just PAX ports)
· What type fly which routes?
· Which year was CX formed?
· What type was their 1st A/C?
· What was the name of their 1st A/C?
· What are your strengths?
· Which areas you believe you need improvement?
· How did you prepare for this interview?
· What impression do you want to leave us? Use only 1 word.
· Have you have any major confrontations with other people so far in life?
· What is ISA temperature @ SL?
· What is the ELR?
· How high is the tropopause?
· What should the temperature be at the tropopause under ISA conditions?
· An A/C was flying at 38000’ (FL380) and OAT was -40 Degrees. What should the OAT be according to ISA? Is it warmer or colder than ISA? By how much?
· Where is FTA located?
· Which aerodrome does FTA use?
· What class of airspace is it?
· Points to model of a A320 and asks to identify it, then points at winglets and asks what are they.
· What is the purpose of winglets?
· What is induced drag? How and why does it vary with A/S?
· Name of Hong Kong’s Airport, in English and Chinese

On the whiteboard were 2 questions
· GS was 540kts, distance was 63nm, how many minutes to go?
· Ground temp was 29 degrees, cloud base was 2000’. What is temperature of a parcel of air @ 4000’ using DALR and SALR?

They will also go through all the questions you got wrong in the technical MCQ with you.
Good luck guys.

lman 21st May 2010 08:58

hey all!

my email layout seems very different from what everyone has.
it is
nterview Process
During the stage 1 assessment, you are required to complete the following selection sessions:
· Job Knowledge Test (45 minutes)

· Reasoning Test (45 minutes)

· Wombat-CS Test (Situational awareness)

· Personality Test (30 minutes)

· Interview (General + Technical)(45 minutes) Technical questions will based on the Job Knowledge booklet attached and further gauged to the individual’s experience level

I am not sure what this mean. I don't have a presentation and it seems like it is not as intense as the ones that has been mentioned.

silentscope 21st May 2010 09:24

stage 2 in hkg on the 23jun anyone?

Roxy_Chick_1989 21st May 2010 09:55

Hi,

myhitomi,

A CSU is an abbreviation for a constant speed unit, this is a system which consists of a govenor which physically changes the blade angle (and hence AoA) of the propellor to maintain an RPM which is set by the pilot. As forward speed increases (or decreases) the relative airflow experienced by the propeller (component of fwd speed and plane of rotation) changes. A CSU will ensure that the propeller is operating at the correct AoA for efficient operation at a given RPM.

To put this into perspective.

You are in your C182 maintaining 2400RPM in the cruise, you then bring the throttle back, the blade angle will automatically lessen (less torque) such that the prop-engine can maintain 2400RPM. Generally, a fine (low) blade angle will lead to a high RPM and increased power response, a coarse (high) blade angle will lead to a low RPM (due to the propeller having to 'cut' through a much larger mass of air for the same engine manifold pressure)

If you need any clarification please just ask:)

Now that ive helped you, would you please be able to give me some info about life in Hong Kong etc...? :)

EDIT: It seems 'myhitomi' deleted his/her post, however ill leave this description up here in case anyone else might need it.

THE_WING 21st May 2010 09:59

Thank you @arflyingman, @Roxy_chick_1989

For @Iman - There is no harm preparing for any extra questions. Any doubts, don't hesitate to take. We're more than happy to help. Please do update your CX experience with us. Thank you and all the best

myhitomi 21st May 2010 10:05

Thx..Roxy Chick,

I've found some information regarding CSU in wikipedia..That's why I deleted my post..

What aspect of Hong Kong do you want to know?

I think I can shed some light ..haha

Roxy_Chick_1989 21st May 2010 10:05

Can anyone confirm whether the changes to stage 1 as suggested by lman, are infact correct and apply to all candidates applying worldwide?


What aspect of Hong Kong do you want to know?
What does a litre of milk cost in hong kong?
What do 21year olds do in HK?
What are the best 'parts' of HK?
What effect does pollution have on everyday lifestlye?
Do you feel safe walking the streets of HK at night?
What is the opinion of CX by HK residents?

I have plenty more, but ill start with those.

myhitomi 21st May 2010 10:19

My stage 1A is different to that of Iman

My schedule is like:

English Test (Listening & Grammar)
Reasoning Test
Aptitude Test (Eye-hand co-ordination)
English Oral Presentation (Maximum 5 minutes)

HK applicants will only do Job Knowledge Test & first interview in Stage 1B , personality test in stage 2...and I have no idea what the wombat test is (anyone can help me with it?)

Our schedule looks quite different, so I think CX has changed their schdeule for people interviewed overseas.


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