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northbound207 8th Aug 2010 06:52

Sept 7/8th
 

Quote:
I am going for stage 2/3 at Sep 7th and 8th.
That's funny. I am going for Stage 2 and 3 on these days as well, so why haven't I received my itinerary yet? Anyway, nice to meet you and see you on the day. I'm going to send you a PM with some contact details, check it out.
Hey All, I also just recently got an invitation to go to Hong Kong for September the 7th and 8th. I've already completed the stage 2 and 3 interviews already and was told over the phone that I will be doing the Simulator assessments.

Is anyone here in the same situation? What I'm worried about is that in the invitation email that they sent me afterwards, it had said "please report to the flight training build 6/F for the stage 2 interviews"... ? Anyway hope someone can clarify this for me, thanks.

Malov 9th Aug 2010 09:34

Long wait
 
Hi guys, I sent my application october last year. I sent Cathay Cadet Programme a mail asking them when my application would be processed.

Because, just like other guys here - it is still saying on the career page that my application is being processed - after all these months. But we can imagine that they get ALOT of applications from all over the world. :)

The response from Cathay was that it will be processed along with other eligible applicants from that geographic region when they are ready to process them. So I`m still hanging in there!

Cathay said they will inform me of my application status when it is ready as well.

Daftpunk2008 9th Aug 2010 13:03

Interview location
 
Hello guys!!

Does anyone of you know if the interview stage 1 has ever been held in India?? I have heard countries in Europe, North America, South Africa, but never India...
I'm asking that because my first location interview is India...
Could someone help me?? Must I change the location?

Thank you very much!

boquera 9th Aug 2010 14:56

just wondering how everybody has found the replies from the team who are dealing with the applications?

i ask because initially they were fairly ok with getting back to you with replies(a week or so)-be it the standard geographical chat or otherwise but recently they have not been even acknowledging them. I know they have a lot to go through and i appreciate that before any replies saying that. My app has been with them 13 months now and it bothers me a bit that they haven't said no yet or invited me to an initial (i put London first on there and there have been plenty of interview dates down there without luck :ugh:)

has anybody else had similar?

Malov 9th Aug 2010 15:24

boquera: I had London as well - and after almost 10 months, nothing yet - though the application is still being processed.

GTC58 9th Aug 2010 16:17

With over 15000 applications for the international cadet program to date, I believe you can only expect a response when invited for an interview.

Joycekin 9th Aug 2010 17:16

Hi guys
 
I am currently playing my waiting game and this is my 13rd week of waiting. has anyone here been waiting for an invitation in HK as well? how long have you guys been waiting for? be positive guys...:D

orangeboy 11th Aug 2010 02:22

yeap, just have patience, they will get back to you eventually, if you don't get the rejection email, then take it as a sign that you're still on the boat :)

if there has been interviews in your area and you haven't been called yet, might be just that they haven't got to your application yet, or that this time round there were more suitable applicants, but they still see you as a potential candidate, so holding off contacting you until the next time (thats the way i see it anyway):)

the wait is hard, but i'm sure its all worth it once they call you in!

Airman1985 11th Aug 2010 03:18

Online Application Status
 
Some people posted comments about their online application status: "We are unable to accept an additional application as your current application is being processed."

I'm in between my Stage 1 and 2, and I don't think the status on online application has anything to do with your most up-to-date application status. I checked mine after taking the Stage 1 interview and after passing the Stage 1. The message on the status page indicates the same.

Also, back in late May, I asked the HR person at the interview about the number of total applications. The person said that the number of application received this year is about 19,000.

kimba928 11th Aug 2010 05:39

Welsh Roots -
 
Hi WR

Just wondering how long it took for your application to be processed to when you got the first advice for your initial interview. Good luck to you. Look forward to updates here WR. Kimba:D

boquera 11th Aug 2010 12:19

after saying what i said, i then get two replies in one day to an email!!! (saying that they both say the same thing [please wait etc] but still!!)

Eddie757 12th Aug 2010 03:39

Stage 1 interview HKG - 20th Sept anyone?
 
Anyone else here been invited for the Stage 1 test and interview in HKG on 20th September? PM me.

WelshRoots 12th Aug 2010 03:50

Cathay 777-200 destinations.
 
Can anybody tell where CX fly the 777-200? I'm struggling to find that one.

barney31 12th Aug 2010 06:12

Welshroots
 

Can anybody tell where CX fly the 777-200? I'm struggling to find that one.
According to the planning schedules, the 777-200 is rotated in the network on the following destinations: MNL, SGN, TPE, CGK, CEB, SUB, SIN, KUL, BKK, NGO, ICN, PVG, and PEK. The 777-200 will not be deployed on routes to EUR and NAM as there are other factors at hand here such as Fuel Efficiency.
Keep in mind though that the aircraft are being used in line with demand and seasonal requirements for that specific destination. You will find numerous changes of acft type and series throughout a running year...

CX loves to mix and match:}

kimba928 12th Aug 2010 06:44

Eddy757 - 20 September Interview HK
 
Hi Eddy757 .... curious to know when you applied. HK was my 1st preference. Which country are you in? I am thinking it might be to soon for my application to be considered for a September interview. Look fwd to hearing from you. However, I wish you lots of good luck for the upcoming interview. :)

kimba928 12th Aug 2010 06:46

WR - thank you for the update!
 
Always good to know when the applns were initiated. Thanks for sharing with us. Good luck!:)

Malov 12th Aug 2010 07:59

Eddie757, wish you all the best on your interview. I am just curious to know when you applied? I have applied - and it has been some time now, Cathay are still processing my app.

F16 Fighting Falcon 13th Aug 2010 03:28

Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme Update?
 
Hi everyone,

Earlier I was called up by Cathay Pacific inviting me for an initial interview for their cadet programme later in September. I assume this will be their last intake as it is quite late in the year already.

Has anyone else got a similar call as of late?

Also, what can I expect from this initial phase of screening?

Thanks,
F16 FF

NewZealand787 13th Aug 2010 03:39

Mate I got a call today for an interview also. Not sure what to expect, but I should be sent an email today to give me a better idea. What stage of flying are you at?

Eddie757 13th Aug 2010 03:56

I got an email yesterday inviting me for the september interview in hk.

kimba928 13th Aug 2010 04:50

Anxious .... F1FF;NZ787 & ChrisA
 
Hey guys - F1FF; NZ787 & ChrisA - when did you apply; where is yr interview and what was yr first preference for location of interview?

Cheers Kimba

dagger19 13th Aug 2010 04:51

should you receive a call or an email for the invitation?
i've got an unknown call yesterday that i failed to pick up, and im not sure if it is from cathay.

orangeboy 13th Aug 2010 06:27

congrats on the interview calls! seems theres a NZ trend going on here :) .....are you NZ folks interviewing in NZ or HK?

coolfizz 13th Aug 2010 18:54

how to contact them via email?
 
hello.


I recently changed my address and would want to inform Cathay about it.

how do i email them telling that my permanent address has changed?
any email address?
thank you. :)

Foxtrot_Lima_Mike 14th Aug 2010 00:33

If you cant figure this one out by yourself and especially see that this question has been discussed before, how da he$$ are you gonna fly a more than 200T heavy aeroplane?

Step up...this is what they want to see apparently!

Em773ER 14th Aug 2010 02:44

S/O rosters
 
If my memory serves me well, from a previous post it was said S/Os roughly work a 10 day roster then they get the rest of the month off? Correct me if i'm wrong.

Does anyone know the exact figures? Im sure it would be different for each aircraft on the fleet, i.e. different routes, different times etc
Any input on this is appreciated, thanks in advance :ok:

jetset 14th Aug 2010 04:55

Just depends on the month.

You tend to be rostered up to 84 credit hours (roughly translates to 84 block hours for an SO). So that translates into 3 longhaul patterns. There are shorter and longer patterns however and also reserve blocks of 6 days.

You can also (presently) choose a W pattern (double longhaul i.e. HKG-SFO-HKG-YVR say..) and then tend to get one W and one single trip.

It takes about 3.5 days to complete one longhaul say depart midnight Sunday land Wednesday morning.

There is plenty of possible variations though.

Good luck

ahparsy 15th Aug 2010 01:42

Cadet
 
Hey all,

I got an interview invitation last week, had an email and a call from hong kong, just to let you know i applied in November 2009.

WelshRoots 16th Aug 2010 10:16

Kiwis
 
F16 and NZ787 good work on the initial call up. Go hard and get involved!

crwjerk 16th Aug 2010 11:08

Do any of you care that you will not get ANY housing allowance, and will not be able to afford to live the life you are expecting??? THINK ABOUT IT!!!!

Daftpunk2008 16th Aug 2010 14:16

to crwjerk
 
crwjerk,

For some people, the cathay pacific cadet pilot programme is their only chance to sit in a cockpit one day!
Housing allowance or not, I have always wanted to become a pilot and I don't have enough money to pay for a pilot tranning! So with or without a housing allowance I hope I will be selected even if for 4 years I must live under a bridge! :mad:

Assad Spaceship2 16th Aug 2010 15:50

To Daftpunk2008
 
You are absolutely right. I am in the same situation and I understand it fully. Good luck to everyone and thanks for the sharing of info. 'crwjerk' must read Da Vinci...For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return.

Kind Rgds

StandardToaster 16th Aug 2010 16:50

1st Year Cost of Living
 
Guys and gals I just wanted to put some thought into the cost of living with Year 1 SO salary. It would be grateful if anyone with solid knowledge could add to/amend my rough calculations.

Income

Pre-Tax

Salary = $398,148
13th Month Bonus = $33,179
Flight Pay (based on 84 credit hours a month) = $29,398 per annum

After-Tax (assuming 13th month bonus is not taxed)

Salary + Flight Pay = $427,546
Tax of 15%

After-Tax income = $363,414

Per Month = $30,284

Expenditure

Rent = $10,000
Food (weekly shop of about $300) = $1,200
Home Telephone = $110
Mobile Phone = $300
Internet = $280
Electricity = $300
Gas = $400
Water = $150
Public Transport (very roughly estimated since depends on lots of factors) = $560

Total expenditure so far = $13,300

OK i need to add a lot more to the expenditures. As long as you don't go out to LKF every night!

Please help me add to these calculations!

At the moment, net income after BASIC expenditure is $16,984 (if you are a hermit)

crwjerk 17th Aug 2010 06:35

Dreams can be tough sometimes huh? You might have to actually go out and work for it.
Fine. I can't wait to fly with you. Don't complain to me when you get here, read the above post, actually it can be a little worse than that....
-You can safely assume 10000 per month on eating, drinking, having a life, in addition to the above.
- 2000 per month for a philippina to clean your flat.
- Phone bills do not include SMS unless to same provider. Can be double or triple the contract price.
- You'll need extra income protection insurance, as the Company one only pays for 5 years..... that's about HKD 25000 per year.
- Electricity in Summer at least 1000 per month
- a piece of steak - 200-400 HKD.... One per month maybe?

Anyway.... Good Luck. Just be ready for a TOUGH time. ( btw, there'll be no bases for you to go home to, when you finally decide that you can't afford to live in Hong Kong)
I'm only trying to get you to think about it before you up and leave your homes.

Worth it......??? Up to you of course.

Daftpunk2008 17th Aug 2010 06:58

to crwjerk
 
Here in my country, I work as an engineer.
At the end of the month, I save about 1000 HKG dollars.
My life will be better in Hong-Kong anyway. Maybe during the 4 first years, it would be difficult but after that I think it will be ok.

AQIS Boigu 17th Aug 2010 07:04

Standard Toaster,

Please keep in mind that the 13th in not contractual and on a few occasions we all have missed out on the elusive 13th...

As a 2nd officer you will have a lot of time on your hands and whilst all your mates are pissing it up at the "Fong" or going on holidays all over the world you will be sitting in your tiny flat wanting to do the same. Further I don't think HK$300 a week for food is enough - please keep that in mind.

If I was a wannabe without experience I would jump at the opportunity... free training and a jet job... I joined as a DESO with a couple thousand hours experience but I can say with confidence that if CX had offered me the SO job without housing I wouldn't have taken it since I have done my careful research about the cost of living in HKG.

Just to clarify - there is nothing wrong with cadets in CX - we have a lot of very good pilots who come from the cadet scheme; it's just the terms and conditions which worry everyone - there is no way you can have a family when you are older on a CX salary without housing.

If you take the job then go ahead but please don't bitch to me at 3am over the Pacific or the Himalayas about getting short changed...

SPEEDI 17th Aug 2010 07:11

Got a call this afternoon, pretty much telling me if i want to attend the interview i need to reply to the email by end of business today.

Grass strip basher 17th Aug 2010 08:06

"HK$300 a week for food"... . ha ha ha ha in HK!! you have got to be kidding!!

NoseGear 17th Aug 2010 08:44

Toaster
 
Toasty, you've completely underestimated a number of of figures. Lets run some more accurate figures for you intrepid wanna be cadets.....:D

Rent - dependant, but most of you will be in a tiny studio or 1 bedder in Tung Chung, or worse, 10K per month is good enough.:ouch:

Food - not even close:{ Try a 1000/week, and I'm not exagerating at all. Everything here is twice or more what you pay at home. Example, milk, its $28HKD per litre; Cheese, 250gm $45.00; Bread $20.00 for cheap stuff (loaves are half size too btw); Box of cereal 60.00.....I think you can see where I'm going with this one.....:eek: Don't even think about steak! Cheap snags, $50-60 for 4. Get used to those I think:E

Forget the home phone, go with a mobile only....my bills are usually around $1500/month and I don't use mine all that much. And they have been higher.:ooh:

Internet and TV - NOW has both, you'll pay around $1000/month for that...and of course you'll need to buy a TV....:{

Electricity - my last bill was nearly $4000, that's for 2 months. Don't think you can live with no aircon here in summer.:=

Public Transport - that's hard to estimate, but say $1000 per month to be safe.

So now we are at around 20K per month and our intrepid cadet has yet to buy a TV, furniture, bed, linen, kitchen items, clothes or even been out to have a bit of fun to try and forget his woes....that by the way is easy $1000/night, and that's also conservative. Want to stay in shape? Check out gym prices....or the local Residents Club, in DB, you'll be looking at another $1000/month again minimum....cause you'll want to be doing something with all your time off:E

A few other points, don't include your 13th month in any calculations, we haven't had that the last few years. Tax, more like 17%, and you have to save it up, they don't do PAYE here and it's harder than you think, especially when you have bugger all money left over anyway. I haven't even begun to mention the "Hong Kong" factor in prices here:yuk:

I now await the screeches of justification:E

You have been warned:ugh:

404 Titan 17th Aug 2010 09:22

StandardToaster

Firstly 13th month and profit share if they are paid and hourly duty pay is taxed. Tax rates are as follows:

Income: $398148

Taxation

Tax free Threshold (Single):$108000
1st 40000 2%: $800
2nd 40000 7%: $2800
3rd 40000 12%: $4800
Remainder ($170148) 17%: $28925 (excluding Hourly Duty Pay, 13th month & Profit Share)
Total: $37325
Provisional Tax (First year only & depending when you start in Hong Kong): $41057
Gross tax: $78382 (19.7% of gross salary)
Net salary: $319766 or $26647 per month

Expenditure/month

Rent: $15000
Food: $4000
Home Phone: $500
Mobile: $120
Internet: $200
Electricity: $1000
Gas: $300
Water: $150
Public Transport: $1000
Miscellaneous: $3000
Total: $25270

This expenditure is assuming a single person living by themselves. Imagine if you had a wife and kids?


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