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fe_fkf 22nd May 2014 15:31

however
 

I didn't pass 1A. The JKI test was alright but I believe I failed in the math and physics sections. I hope to retry in six months after reviewing those subjects. Meanwhile, does anyone have any suggestions for the most relevant jobs that I can apply before the reapplication period?
sorry to hear that..just keep going and preparing!

How long did you wait for the stage 1a result??

kelevra 22nd May 2014 23:48

Embarrassingly Too Soon
 
@fe_fkf

First attempt, I was notified, I think, a month later and invited to Stage 1B. I think a month after that I got a rejection.

For my third attempt, I was notified by email 30 minutes after completing Stage 1A and leaving the building.

Edit: Actually, in hindsight, at least I didn't have to wait long just to hear a rejection.

however 23rd May 2014 00:53

They gave me a reply by email on the same day I did the test.

The_Architect 23rd May 2014 03:21

Kelevra
 
Wait...

Are you saying you deteriorated?

Are you still applying then?

kelevra 23rd May 2014 03:38

The_Architect
 
Yeah I guess I did.

Not that it's an excuse (but it will sound like one anyway) but my first attempt was the previous structured selection process (WOMBAT, Raven's Progressive, etc.) and was just fresh out of secondary school (so "invincible" mentality and whatnot)

And for the most recent, it was the current structure (COMPASS, etc.). Also, I applied before having to drop out of university. So I'm guessing I didn't give myself enough time to prepare for it.

Planning to apply again. Just trying to get my sh*t together first.

The_Architect 23rd May 2014 05:07

kelevra
 
That mentality eliminated a lot of over confident applicants…

Now that you are out of college, what makes you think you can do better this time around?

(Im trying to help, please dont take it as an offensive statement)

kelevra 23rd May 2014 08:50

Since the last interview, I've been trying to get into whatever workforce that would accept me and acquire whatever experience I can get my hands on. Not much success there but still persevering and hoping this behaviour can translate for the selection process and the cadet programme.

Would love to continue my tertiary education but as of now it doesn't seem to be in the cards. At least with the time spent there at least some of the culture of being student is still somewhat fresh and can be useful during the cadet programme. Unlike before, I will at least give myself sufficient time to prepare.

(Typing out all this makes me feel underwhelming and inadequate but no worries. I think I see what you're trying to do. Thanks.)

ae86kelvin 23rd May 2014 09:18

Anyone can send me the JKI booklet? [email protected]
1000x THANKSSSSSS for your help!

sugizo20 23rd May 2014 13:35

However
 
Just wonder why you find it difficult? Would you describe it a little bit?

however 23rd May 2014 16:37

Basically, it's algebra. If airplane travels x, how much y... you get the idea. Since I've spent most of the time focusing on aviation knowledge, I kind of forgot to focus on math formulas, so I didn't know how to calculate the answer. I don't think it's hard if math is fresh in your mind, but I haven't touched math since high school (almost 10 years ago).

tms.anita 23rd May 2014 16:56

UK PPL useful
 
Hi guys,

I am about to graduate in July and would like to use the summer to gain a UK PPL.

1) Do you think it would be beneficial for me to do so, in terms of getting through the selection process?


2) I applied to KA 2 weeks ago for their MPL cadet programme, how long do I normally have to wait for an interview? Is is harder to get in CX than KA, or do both have the same recruiting team (since both company are merged)

The_Architect 24th May 2014 00:51

tms.anita
 
while getting a ppl helps in gaining aviation knowledge, it will rise their expectations substantially. Just because you hold a giant license doesnt mean much, as a matter of fact, if they sense any inadequacy from you being a PPL holder it might even hurt your chances.

KA as I heard is slightly more competitive than CX because they hire so little people. It takes them a few weeks to a few months to get back to you if you are invited.

DrakeSkyle 24th May 2014 04:11

Apply for both! It doesn't really matter. CX is merit based and I think KA is the same so if you're good enough, they'll take you. Some people fail CX and join KA and vice versa. They will ask you in the interviews anyway whether you have applied for the other company.

sugizo20 24th May 2014 04:47

However
 
Thanks. But the thing I'm concerned is that is it a mental math?

kelevra 24th May 2014 05:19

sugizo20
 
During the tests, you get a pen and paper. No calculators allowed.

During the interview(s) with the technical questions, I think it's assumed that you'll be doing mental maths.

tms.anita 24th May 2014 08:24

What kind of technical question will they ask actually?

is it like

Non-PPL holder: how can a plane fly?

PPL-holder: explain the how the engine run in the air?

The_Architect 24th May 2014 16:35

tms.anita
 
No, its more like:

non-ppl holder
Tell me about the compression and turbine stages of the GE-90

ppl holder
What is adverse yaw? Why and when does it happen?

Good luck everyone

CodyBlade 24th May 2014 18:01

No.

At this stage they want to know your English language proficiency.

Don't give them reasons to ask you Oxy-moron questions.

There is time enough to learn aviation topics later.

orangeboy 24th May 2014 23:45

They aren't going to ask you to talk about compression and turbine stages.

They will ask you questions relevant to your flying experience and involvement in aviation.

I would say if you don't have any flying experience, then try and have atleast a BAK type level before heading in.

If you have a PPL, then somewhere along the lines of a CPL level type theoretical knowledge should be sufficient.

They might ask you a couple of questions that go beyond your level, but that could be anything, and don't be afraid to say you don't know.

Study and understand the basics before moving on. Studying the compression and turbine stages of a GE90 when you have absolutely no clue about the fundamentals is pointless and if the interviewer continually asked ATPL and type specific questions then they need a kick in the ass.

Use a bit of common sense.

CodyBlade 25th May 2014 04:49

This is a good gauge:

If they talk to you about your schooling,very general oceans/geographic questions,aviation interests/ambitions -you are good.

If they ask questions about GE90 compression stages -you are in trouble.

Relax have and air of quite confidence and speak well.Remember it's the initial 30secs which determines..


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